When will the left disavow the violent hate groups blm and antifa?(Merged)

[IAMX 3,055]

22 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

You go ahead and support degenerates who fling excrement  (literally and figuratively) at people just because the associate with the left. Personally I refuse to support degenerates on either side (white supremacists or antifa). Either you oppose hate and violence from both sides or you support it. I guess you choose to support it.

They support extremism when it fits the narrative. Where they don't support extremism/terrorism, or even dissenting voices, if it's competing with their personal interests. Stark contrast to the clearly archaic belief system of 20 years ago when I started voting, leftist people said they'd fight for your right to say and believe what you want even if they disagree with it. Now? lol. They literally want to attack you, and in some cases, as we've seen numerous videos of, do.. throwing feces/urine on people, pepper spraying them, sucker punching them in the face from behind, using weapons to beat them, etc. One poster here said she wanted to attack a Trump supporter in the grocery store, merely because they were a Trump supporter. Another poster here (that I've seen through others quotes of them) advocates attacking people like Spencer, yet considers an Antifa leftnut who went out to attack people getting smacked in the face to be a victim. They hide behind the concept of equality but this is clearly 100% about getting their way and nothing more, nothing to do with equality.

 

The left have turned nearly every single movement they associate with into a walking joke -- black rights, womens rights/feminism, gay rights, science, and so on. And this is a great deal why. Raving idiocy and childish rage.

 

On the subject of SPLC, I had a great laugh looking at their site -- nothing but bashing of white males, exaggerating white supremacy, typical nutty hyperbole from people with nothing rational to offer to the public, yet is somehow NPO.

 

And the way they lash out at people who unapologetically dissent and criticize them is second to none. Not even with all my years of experience with religion bashing did Christians throw fits like this. The only way to battle this kind of stupidity is simply to shove the dissent in their faces and make them play their card. At least in the US you have self defense. Letting them get their way or quietly dissenting to one's self has proven to only embolden them to feel entitled to getting more and more.

Edited August 25, 2017 by IAMX

[smilesammich 10,727]

33 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

You go ahead and support degenerates who fling excrement  (literally and figuratively) at people just because the associate with the left. Personally I refuse to support degenerates on either side (white supremacists or antifa). Either you oppose hate and violence from both sides or you support it. I guess you choose to support it.

see, the part in bold is where you lose me. i don't support antifa 'just because they associate with the left'. i oppose hate and violence but i believe in a strong defense to hate and violence. being anti fascist is just that - anti fascist. no need to guess, i am anti fascist and want nothing to do with the rise of a white ethno state or the purging of minorities in this country. it is my opinion that the hate and violence sponsored by white supremacists can't always be answered with a peaceful approach. besides, the right doesn't even like peaceful protest..hippy girl w/ dreads meme incoming 

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

see, the part in bold is where you lose me. i don't support antifa 'just because they associate with the left'. i oppose hate and violence but i believe in a strong defense to hate and violence. being anti fascist is just that - anti fascist. no need to guess, i am anti fascist and want nothing to do with the rise of a white ethno state or the purging of minorities in this country. it is my opinion that the hate and violence sponsored by white supremacists can't always be answered with a peaceful approach. besides, the right doesn't even like peaceful protest..hippy girl w/ dreads meme incoming 

So throwing urine and feces at police and assaulting random people who aren't even protesting opposes white supremacists how? By the way even though they call themselves anti fascists they sure have a lot of characteristics of pro fascists.

[smilesammich 10,727]

17 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

So throwing urine and feces at police and assaulting random people who aren't even protesting opposes white supremacists how? By the way even though they call themselves anti fascists they sure have a lot of characteristics of pro fascists.

well i'd have to trust your sources over my own, and mine include people who were actually at the unite the right rally in charlottesville and not info wars - do you realize that that's where this urine/feces story originates from? none other than alex jones. i would link to it here but it is not family friendly.  

and, i disagree with your opinion that they're characteristic of fascists. i suspect you have this opinion from all the rubbish 'news' you digest.

[Boiler 46,121]

Drive By's are my reliable source of info....

[IAMX 3,055]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

So throwing urine and feces at police and assaulting random people who aren't even protesting opposes white supremacists how? By the way even though they call themselves anti fascists they sure have a lot of characteristics of pro fascists.

I'd say characteristics of animals at a zoo. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Alan Dershowitz: ‘Violent’ Antifa movement is ‘trying to tear down America’

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/22/alan-dershowitz-violent-antifa-movement-is-trying-/

 

Antifa: Left-wing militants on the rise

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40930831

 

More fake news right?

 

     Neither of these mention anything about throwing urine and feces, something which you seemed to be preoccupied with in the previous 4 links.  Are you changing your assertion now? 

 

  Saying one thing and posting links to support something else does not actually help your credibility. Mixing real news links with fake ones doesn't help you either. 

 

  

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

well i'd have to trust your sources over my own, and mine include people who were actually at the unite the right rally in charlottesville and not info wars - do you realize that that's where this urine/feces story originates from? none other than alex jones. i would link to it here but it is not family friendly.  

and, i disagree with your opinion that they're characteristic of fascists. i suspect you have this opinion from all the rubbish 'news' you digest.

Sounds like you are seriously in denial here. Somehow I doubt you know anyone who was at any of the rallies and even if you did their word is not reliable because they are probably drinking the antifa kool aid just like you. Go ahead and continue to support one group of degenerates because they associate with your party and denounce another group of degenerates from the other party. As I said I denounce violence and hate from both sides. Either you do the same or you support violence and hate period.

 

52 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     Neither of these mention anything about throwing urine and feces, something which you seemed to be preoccupied with in the previous 4 links.  Are you changing your assertion now? 

 

  Saying one thing and posting links to support something else does not actually help your credibility. Mixing real news links with fake ones doesn't help you either. 

 

  

Throwing urine and feces is just an example of the bigger issue which is violence and criminal activity. Those articles highlight that activity.

[CaliCat 3,957]

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

 

14 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Sounds like you are seriously in denial here. Somehow I doubt you know anyone who was at any of the rallies and even if you did their word is not reliable because they are probably drinking the antifa kool aid just like you. Go ahead and continue to support one group of degenerates because they associate with your party and denounce another group of degenerates from the other party. As I said I denounce violence and hate from both sides. Either you do the same or you support violence and hate period.

 

Throwing urine and feces is just an example of the bigger issue which is violence and criminal activity. Those articles highlight that activity.

i'm in denial while also lying about being in denial. we both agree that i don't find your sources reliable and you don't find mine reliable. so let's move on.

you say you denounce violence on both sides but i've only read you actually denouncing it on one side. anyway the whole 'either you do the same or you support violence and hate period' is very 'my way or the highway' of you. sounds authoritarian. i don't get along well with those types, so.. have a great weekend!

22 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Throwing urine and feces is just an example of the bigger issue which is violence and criminal activity. Those articles highlight that activity.

like, plowing into a crowd of humans with a car? you're right - bigger issue.

[IAMX 3,055]

33 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Sounds like you are seriously in denial here. Somehow I doubt you know anyone who was at any of the rallies and even if you did their word is not reliable because they are probably drinking the antifa kool aid just like you. Go ahead and continue to support one group of degenerates because they associate with your party and denounce another group of degenerates from the other party. As I said I denounce violence and hate from both sides. Either you do the same or you support violence and hate period.

 

Throwing urine and feces is just an example of the bigger issue which is violence and criminal activity. Those articles highlight that activity.

Can't expect animals to know any better.

[Boiler 46,121]

Some hate groups are OK, some are not so it seems.

[CaliCat 3,957]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Some hate groups are OK, some are not so it seems.

 

According to our so-called president, there are good people in some Nazi groups, so, by extension, he does believe that some hate groups are OK. 

 

More testimony to his mental abilities, or rather, lack thereof. 

Edited August 25, 2017 by CaliCat

[Boiler 46,121]

I do not agree with Trump, I do not think you should either.

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

I do not agree with Trump, I do not think you should either.

 

We agree!