When will the left disavow the violent hate groups blm and antifa?(Merged)

[jg121783 3,921]

49 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i don't put nazi, white supremacist scum in a snowflake-proof category of 'people i disagree with' i put them the category of 'inbreds calling for genocide'. and they deserve whatever pushback comes their way. straight now?

Yeah I think we are straight. You are okay with degenerate criminals rioting, assaulting innocent people (who in some cases aren't even involved in the protests for either side) and throwing urine and feces at police. As long as they are leftist criminals. Thanks for clarifying.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

5 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Yeah I think we are straight. You are okay with degenerate criminals rioting, assaulting innocent people (who in some cases aren't even involved in the protests for either side) and throwing urine and feces at police. As long as they are leftist criminals. Thanks for clarifying.

Source of your evidence that the protestors are degenerate,  criminals or assaulting innocent people and that they belong to  blm?

Edited August 25, 2017 by Il Mango Dulce

[Póg mo 1,749]

4 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

They might say they are just defending themselves. 

The raw data

White supremacists are much more likely to commit violent crimes than other sub-groups or classifications of domestic extremism. According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), in 2015, white supremacists accounted for 38 percentof all extremist killings, followed closely by Islamist, anti-government, and anti-abortion extremists. Left-wing extremism accounted for around 1 percent of all killings; so-called “black extremism” did not register.

“Typically, white supremacists make up the vast majority of non‐ideological perpetrators, as white supremacists engage in a large amount of gang‐related and traditional criminal violent activity in addition to their hate‐ or ideologically‐motivated violence,” the ADL reported, explaining the numbers. Those groups were often also visibly associated with white supremacist groups—tattoos and insignia on their clothing during the crime often identified them straight off the bat.

By comparison, the number of violent crimes committed by those aligned with civil rights activism is virtually non-existent. Right-wing platforms have attempted to tie black violence in large cities like Chicago to Black Lives Matter, for instance—but it’s difficult, if not impossible, to say whether any of those crimes were tied to people aligned with the movement.

In historical terms, white supremacist and neo-Nazi violence also largely overshadows any alleged acts committed by other groups—something Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors is quick to point out.

“This country is rich with an ugly past characterized by genocide, slavery and rooted in white supremacist values to its core,” Cullors said, in a statement to ThinkProgress. “[The United States] must come to terms with its past. …[It] must deal with the white supremacy and racism that permeates every institution, the economy, the dominant national culture.”

Ultimately, Cullors argues, Trump is empowering white supremacists, making groups like Black Lives Matter even more essential.https://thinkprogress.org/there-is-no-comparison-between-white-supremacists-and-black-lives-matter-9bafb222ed38/

 

Sure what ever you say. You leftists with your facts and critical thinking skills.

7 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

They might say they are just defending themselves. 

The raw data

White supremacists are much more likely to commit violent crimes than other sub-groups or classifications of domestic extremism. According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), in 2015, white supremacists accounted for 38 percentof all extremist killings, followed closely by Islamist, anti-government, and anti-abortion extremists. Left-wing extremism accounted for around 1 percent of all killings; so-called “black extremism” did not register.

“Typically, white supremacists make up the vast majority of non‐ideological perpetrators, as white supremacists engage in a large amount of gang‐related and traditional criminal violent activity in addition to their hate‐ or ideologically‐motivated violence,” the ADL reported, explaining the numbers. Those groups were often also visibly associated with white supremacist groups—tattoos and insignia on their clothing during the crime often identified them straight off the bat.

By comparison, the number of violent crimes committed by those aligned with civil rights activism is virtually non-existent. Right-wing platforms have attempted to tie black violence in large cities like Chicago to Black Lives Matter, for instance—but it’s difficult, if not impossible, to say whether any of those crimes were tied to people aligned with the movement.

In historical terms, white supremacist and neo-Nazi violence also largely overshadows any alleged acts committed by other groups—something Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors is quick to point out.

“This country is rich with an ugly past characterized by genocide, slavery and rooted in white supremacist values to its core,” Cullors said, in a statement to ThinkProgress. “[The United States] must come to terms with its past. …[It] must deal with the white supremacy and racism that permeates every institution, the economy, the dominant national culture.”

Ultimately, Cullors argues, Trump is empowering white supremacists, making groups like Black Lives Matter even more essential.https://thinkprogress.org/there-is-no-comparison-between-white-supremacists-and-black-lives-matter-9bafb222ed38/

 

Sure what ever you say. You leftists with your facts and critical thinking skills.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

12 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Yeah I think we are straight. You are okay with degenerate criminals rioting, assaulting innocent people (who in some cases aren't even involved in the protests for either side) and throwing urine and feces at police. As long as they are leftist criminals. Thanks for clarifying.

 I asked some fairly good questions with no response, looking forward to seeing the proof you describe in you opening blast. Right now I have a reservations at a James Beard winning chefs restaurant (also a blm supporter) so you will have to wait once you lay out your "proof"

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

Yeah I think we are straight. You are okay with degenerate criminals rioting, assaulting innocent people (who in some cases aren't even involved in the protests for either side) and throwing urine and feces at police. As long as they are leftist criminals. Thanks for clarifying.

yeah, im with dulce, gonna need to see your sources on all that nonsense. we're about as clear as the swamp trump 'drained'..

Edited August 25, 2017 by smilesammich

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

Yeah I think we are straight. You are okay with degenerate criminals rioting, assaulting innocent people (who in some cases aren't even involved in the protests for either side) and throwing urine and feces at police. As long as they are leftist criminals. Thanks for clarifying.

 

    Assuming you are right about that, and you were not just posting fake news stories again, how does a group throwing urine and feces compare with a group responsible for the genocide of millions? What logic even leads someone to that comparison?

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Sort of like the SPLC, until they recognise all Hate groups and do not cherry pick they will never gain credibility.

[IAMX 3,055]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sort of like the SPLC, until they recognise all Hate groups and do not cherry pick they will never gain credibility.

B-but Hitler! 

[Boiler 46,121]

1 minute ago, IAMX said:

B-but Hitler! 

See you and raise you.

 

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Boiler said:

See you and raise you.

 

He looks pretty white.

 

But.. he's also the hero of Antifa.

 

So torn.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sort of like the SPLC, until they recognise all Hate groups and do not cherry pick they will never gain credibility.

 

   Most people find the SPLC credible. Some right wingers have been unhappy since the SPLC pointed out how many anti immigrant groups seem to have there roots traced to white supremacy groups, but it is what it is.

[Jacque67 7,328]

 

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

yeah, im with dulce, gonna need to see your sources on all that nonsense. we're about as clear as the swamp trump 'drained'..

Portland Police Chief Says Antifa Protesters Used Slingshot to Launch Urine and Feces-Filled Balloons at Riot Cops

http://www.wweek.com/news/city/2017/06/23/portland-police-chief-says-antifa-protesters-used-slingshot-to-launch-urine-and-feces-filled-balloons-at-riot-cops/

 

Pee-Filled Projectiles A Recurring Weapon Of Choice For ‘Anti-Fascists’

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/20/pee-filled-projectiles-a-recurring-weapon-of-choice-for-anti-fascists/

 

Antifa thugs’ protesting hits new, horrible level: read police chief’s account of ‘feces’ mayhem

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/24/antifa-thugs-protesting-hits-new-horrible-level-read-police-chiefs-account-of-feces-mayhem/

 

33 Arrests: ‘Antifa’ Mob Assaults Police, Elderly Woman, Trump Supporter; Engulfs Free Speech Rally

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/33-arrests-antifa-mob-assaults-police-elderly-woman-trump-supporter-overwhelm

 

Police chief: Urine and feces filled balloons thrown during dueling demonstrations

http://www.kptv.com/story/35740202/portland-police-urine-and-feces-filled-balloons-thrown-during-dueling-demonstrations

 

Got a lot more where that came from but I gotta be up for work in 4 hours so your on your own for now. I'll give you a tip. Google is your friend. Maybe when you see what your beloved antifa has been up to you will stop supporting them. Probably not. 

[jg121783 3,921]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Most people find the SPLC credible. 

The FBI is no longer among the group that finds them credible. That should tell you all you need to know about their credibility.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, jg121783 said:

Portland Police Chief Says Antifa Protesters Used Slingshot to Launch Urine and Feces-Filled Balloons at Riot Cops

http://www.wweek.com/news/city/2017/06/23/portland-police-chief-says-antifa-protesters-used-slingshot-to-launch-urine-and-feces-filled-balloons-at-riot-cops/

 

Pee-Filled Projectiles A Recurring Weapon Of Choice For ‘Anti-Fascists’

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/20/pee-filled-projectiles-a-recurring-weapon-of-choice-for-anti-fascists/

 

Antifa thugs’ protesting hits new, horrible level: read police chief’s account of ‘feces’ mayhem

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/24/antifa-thugs-protesting-hits-new-horrible-level-read-police-chiefs-account-of-feces-mayhem/

 

33 Arrests: ‘Antifa’ Mob Assaults Police, Elderly Woman, Trump Supporter; Engulfs Free Speech Rally

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/33-arrests-antifa-mob-assaults-police-elderly-woman-trump-supporter-overwhelm

 

Police chief: Urine and feces filled balloons thrown during dueling demonstrations

http://www.kptv.com/story/35740202/portland-police-urine-and-feces-filled-balloons-thrown-during-dueling-demonstrations

 

Got a lot more where that came from but I gotta be up for work in 4 hours so your on your own for now. I'll give you a tip. Google is your friend. Maybe when you see what your beloved antifa has been up to you will stop supporting them. Probably not. 

 

   You may want to ask your friend google why it keeps taking you to fake news sites. Not much of a friend if you ask me.