When will the left disavow the violent hate groups blm and antifa?(Merged)

[Steeleballz 7,550]

24 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

I didn't realize that it's jealousy for Trump that has your and 2 amigos' panties in a bunch over Trump.  Yes, he has his own golf club/resort.  Get over it AGAIN.

 

     Save yourself!

 

       

[IAMX 3,055]

22 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

I didn't realize that it's jealousy for Trump that has your and 2 amigos' panties in a bunch over Trump.  Yes, he has his own golf club/resort.  Get over it AGAIN.

I really hope they don't get over it. I have a morbid curiosity for how far they want to take these tantrums. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

27 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

I didn't realize that it's jealousy for Trump that has your and 2 amigos' panties in a bunch over Trump.  Yes, he has his own golf club/resort.  Get over it AGAIN.

 

Are you quoting Beckett? LOL.

Edited August 24, 2017 by CaliCat

[smilesammich 10,727]

15 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Just steer clear of abbreviations!

[OriZ 3,157]

2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Every time some obscure white supremisist makes the news Trump is attacked for not immediately disavowing them a hundred times. Why aren't leaders on the left held to the same standard when high profile radical left hate groups go out and commit acts of violence on almost a daily basis? Not a single leader on the left says a word about it so is their silence to be taken as an endorsement of these groups? If they are held to the same standards as Trump I would argue yes it should be taken as an endorsement.

What violence? there is no violence. According to the MDL it is all a figment of your imagination. Fake news. Alternative facts. 

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, OriZ said:

What violence? there is no violence. According to the MDL it is all a figment of your imagination. Fake news. Alternative facts. 

Fitting for people who need to indulge in such an active imagination to psyche themselves out from the reality that Trump is their President and there's nothing that will change it. 

[Teddy B 17,251]

4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

[Póg mo 1,749]

Why are right wingers so concerned with the actions of BLM and antifa, whilst refusing to condemn right wing hate groups, and their racist actions? 

[jg121783 3,908]

4 hours ago, smilesammich said:

probably when blm and antifa are actually considered hate groups by anyone other than trump lemmings. i take leftist leadership's silence on blm and antifa as endorsement of reality, something 'both sides' trumpster doesn't have a grasp of.

I just want to get it straight here. Do you not believe blm and antifa are violent groups that throw urine and feces (among other things) at and assault people they disagree with? Or do you endorse that type of behavior?

 

1 hour ago, Póg mo said:

Why are right wingers so concerned with the actions of BLM and antifa, whilst refusing to condemn right wing hate groups, and their racist actions? 

The right could disavow these groups hundreds of times and it wouldn't be good enough (in fact they have). The left on the other hand either remains silent on violent leftist groups or openly endorses them. Talk about hypocracy.

[8bit_Theatre 64]

Is BLM still a thing? I figured it went the way of Occupy.

[IAMX 3,055]

9 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I just want to get it straight here. Do you not believe blm and antifa are violent groups that throw urine and feces (among other things) at and assault people they disagree with? Or do you endorse that type of behavior?

 

The right could disavow these groups hundreds of times and it wouldn't be good enough (in fact they have). The left on the other hand either remains silent on violent leftist groups or openly endorses them. Talk about hypocracy.

A few lefty rags I read over the last few days reluctantly praised the overwhelming amount of "Republicans", "conservatives" etc. who denounced Charlottesville (with backhanded remarks about Trump as expected). I wouldn't worry about that posters opinion. They're flailing wildly, a sign of pure desperation to maintain an other-worldly narrative. 

 

1 minute ago, 8bit_Theatre said:

Is BLM still a thing? I figured it went the way of Occupy.

Will soon, and can toss it in the heap of other garbage movements like OWS, (modern) Tea Party, (modern) Minutemen, etc.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

Until they:

Are responsible for almost exterminating an entire race on a continent.

Are responsible for lynching people off the street and either drag them around using a vehicle or hang them from a tree.

Are responsible for the intimidation and discrimination of those people in every aspect of their lives and freedoms.

 

Comparing the KKK, Nazis and white supremacists with these groups is so beyond ridiculous the thread needs shutting down.

Edited August 24, 2017 by JimandChristy

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

I just want to get it straight here. Do you not believe blm and antifa are violent groups that throw urine and feces (among other things) at and assault people they disagree with? Or do you endorse that type of behavior?

i don't put nazi, white supremacist scum in a snowflake-proof category of 'people i disagree with' i put them the category of 'inbreds calling for genocide'. and they deserve whatever pushback comes their way. straight now?

[Póg mo 1,749]

1 hour ago, 8bit_Theatre said:

Is BLM still a thing? I figured it went the way of Occupy.

It is, but remember, far right terrorism maybe a much greater threat to your average American, and BLM is not a hate group, or that antifa only exists to combat right wing terrorism, and doesn't really have an agenda beyond that, the important thing to remember is that violence is committed by both sides

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

7 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Every time some obscure white supremisist makes the news Trump is attacked for not immediately disavowing them a hundred times. Why aren't leaders on the left held to the same standard when high profile radical left hate groups go out and commit acts of violence on almost a daily basis? Not a single leader on the left says a word about it so is their silence to be taken as an endorsement of these groups? If they are held to the same standards as Trump I would argue yes it should be taken as an endorsement.

They might say they are just defending themselves. 

The raw data

White supremacists are much more likely to commit violent crimes than other sub-groups or classifications of domestic extremism. According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), in 2015, white supremacists accounted for 38 percentof all extremist killings, followed closely by Islamist, anti-government, and anti-abortion extremists. Left-wing extremism accounted for around 1 percent of all killings; so-called “black extremism” did not register.

“Typically, white supremacists make up the vast majority of non‐ideological perpetrators, as white supremacists engage in a large amount of gang‐related and traditional criminal violent activity in addition to their hate‐ or ideologically‐motivated violence,” the ADL reported, explaining the numbers. Those groups were often also visibly associated with white supremacist groups—tattoos and insignia on their clothing during the crime often identified them straight off the bat.

By comparison, the number of violent crimes committed by those aligned with civil rights activism is virtually non-existent. Right-wing platforms have attempted to tie black violence in large cities like Chicago to Black Lives Matter, for instance—but it’s difficult, if not impossible, to say whether any of those crimes were tied to people aligned with the movement.

In historical terms, white supremacist and neo-Nazi violence also largely overshadows any alleged acts committed by other groups—something Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors is quick to point out.

“This country is rich with an ugly past characterized by genocide, slavery and rooted in white supremacist values to its core,” Cullors said, in a statement to ThinkProgress. “[The United States] must come to terms with its past. …[It] must deal with the white supremacy and racism that permeates every institution, the economy, the dominant national culture.”

Ultimately, Cullors argues, Trump is empowering white supremacists, making groups like Black Lives Matter even more essential.https://thinkprogress.org/there-is-no-comparison-between-white-supremacists-and-black-lives-matter-9bafb222ed38/

 

Edited August 25, 2017 by Il Mango Dulce