When will the left disavow the violent hate groups blm and antifa?(Merged)

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Sounds like they don't have much love for the police, those blm folks.  In the not-so-distant past...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/ 

 

33 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

They are groups defending their human rights that are under attack, love and talk only go so far with Nazis. Period.

 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

39 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

They are groups defending their human rights that are under attack, love and talk only go so far with Nazis. Period.

I think the left needs a love in, time for another Woodstock. #LSD  

[IAMX 3,055]

13 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Sounds like they don't have much love for the police, those blm folks.  In the not-so-distant past...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/ 

 

 

"defending human rights"

 

LOL

 

The ####### people tell themselves.

[Póg mo 1,749]

44 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

 

How is throwing urine and feces serving to defend anyone's human rights? These groups commit acts of violence at protests where white supremisists aren't even present. This narrative that these groups do what they do in response to Nazis doesn't really hold water.

You're obsessed with throwing urine. The fact that right wing terrorism groups murder people is irrelevant to you. So long as they allegedly don't throw urine at the police. I say allegedly because I wasn't there, neither were you and even they were, it still doesn't come close to the level of intimidation that the people on the right use when they murder people, burn churches, drive cars into crowded streets. Of course you don't support such actions, but let's be honest here. Your goals and that of far right groups aren't that different. 

Edited August 26, 2017 by Póg mo

[Póg mo 1,749]

2 minutes ago, IAMX said:

"defending human rights"

 

LOL

 

The ####### people tell themselves.

Sticks and stones....

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Just disavow all hate groups, problem solved.

Disavow the anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti human rights, anti working man, anti environment posters we see daily on Cehest? Never , I love you guys too much and still think a few might be redeemed or at least bring a higher level of thinking to their troglidite minds.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

5 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Sticks and stones....

White supremacists are a minority and should be condemned but lets not make them more important than they think they are. They are trash and there in no place in society for their views but if the left keep accusing everyone who votes right as being a nazi sympathizer then the left better get used to being on the sidelines.

 

Milo is coming lets trash Berkeley, Anne Coulter is coming lets trash Berkeley.

 

Everywhere there is an Antifa rally there is violence and they don't even need a wannabe nazi in sight to commit acts of violence. Why don't the left condemned them? Answering that they are against nazi's doesn't justify their behaviour. If an Anifa member rammed a car in to a right wing rally there would be cheers from the left which is just plain sad.

[jg121783 3,908]

1 hour ago, Póg mo said:

You're obsessed with throwing urine. The fact that right wing terrorism groups murder people is irrelevant to you. So long as they allegedly don't throw urine at the police. I say allegedly because I wasn't there, neither were you and even they were, it still doesn't come close to the level of intimidation that the people on the right use when they murder people, burn churches, drive cars into crowded streets. Of course you don't support such actions, but let's be honest here. Your goals and that of far right groups aren't that different. 

 

What exactly are the goals of the far right and how do my goals come close to theirs? 

 

1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Disavow the anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti human rights, anti working man, anti environment posters we see daily on Cehest? Never , I love you guys too much and still think a few might be redeemed or at least bring a higher level of thinking to their troglidite minds.

I haven't come across anyone on any section of visajourney that matches that description. Certainly not anyone who is anti immigration as most of us here have relatives who are immigrants. Name one person who fits that description. Back to the topic of the thread. Why is it so hard for the leftists here to disavow leftist hate groups? I haven't seen anyone here who leans to the right that has any issue whatsoever disavowing violent hate groups on both sides. Either the leftists are in serious denial or they condone violence. Which is it?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

243 people killed (allegedly) in the US in the past 25 years by the left and right extremists.  220 allegedly by the right, 23 allegedly by the left.  (This is ignoring the 3,975 killed by muslim terrorists in the same 25 years span).

 

While it can be argued that 220 is higher than 23, I think it's better to point out that 243 people lost their lives needlessly in the past 25 years over some pretty stupid ideologies.  We live in a melting pot of people, ideas, and cultures.  Why can't we all just deal with that and live our lives?  'Twould be nice...

 

 

2 hours ago, Póg mo said:

You're obsessed with throwing urine. The fact that right wing terrorism groups murder people is irrelevant to you. So long as they allegedly don't throw urine at the police. I say allegedly because I wasn't there, neither were you and even they were, it still doesn't come close to the level of intimidation that the people on the right use when they murder people, burn churches, drive cars into crowded streets. Of course you don't support such actions, but let's be honest here. Your goals and that of far right groups aren't that different. 

Edited August 26, 2017 by IDWAF

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

 

What exactly are the goals of the far right and how do my goals come close to theirs? 

 

I haven't come across anyone on any section of visajourney that matches that description. Certainly not anyone who is anti immigration as most of us here have relatives who are immigrants. Name one person who fits that description. Back to the topic of the thread. Why is it so hard for the leftists here to disavow leftist hate groups? I haven't seen anyone here who leans to the right that has any issue whatsoever disavowing violent hate groups on both sides. Either the leftists are in serious denial or they condone violence. Which is it?

BLM and Antifa are not hate groups. I don't have to approve or disapprove of their tactics or what went down at a protest they attended to make that claim. 

You never provided support for your wild, unsubstantiated claim about the degenerate ,criminal nature if BLM

[spookyturtle 9,465]

3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Disavow the anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti human rights, anti working man, anti environment posters we see daily on Cehest? Never , I love you guys too much and still think a few might be redeemed or at least bring a higher level of thinking to their troglidite minds.

You forgot anti Muslim, anti- liberal, anti- left, anti -Democrat, anti -Obama, and most important, anti-rational and logical. 

[Boiler 44,855]

3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Disavow the anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti human rights, anti working man, anti environment posters we see daily on Cehest? Never , I love you guys too much and still think a few might be redeemed or at least bring a higher level of thinking to their troglidite minds.

Huh, where have you been looking?

[Boiler 44,855]

5 hours ago, IDWAF said:

Having taken the time to read this entire thread, I see no one who is posting who supports right wing supremacists.  Not one single person has said anything even remotely close to "white people are the best" or "down with minorities" or "what this country needs is fewer blacks".  The common uniting factor is that we all think that people who think or speak or act that way are to be discounted and ignored.

 

What I don't understand is those who think that antifa and blm are not hate groups.  Are they groups that spread love?  Are they achieving any of their goals by communicating with others in a manner that helps everyone to understand what is needed?  From what I have seen the last few years, they are groups that deserve just as much condemnation and discounting of their ways as those on the far right who think they actually have a cause.

All excellent points, spreading love with bricks and bullets.

[Ban Hammer 13,110]

12 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

You forgot anti Muslim, anti- liberal, anti- left, anti -Democrat, anti -Obama, and most important, anti-rational and logical. 

i'm anti everything except for pizza

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Huh, where have you been looking?

Amazing how folks can look at the same thing and see different things. I see people of color and Muslims disparaged here daily.