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22 hours ago, smilesammich said:

well i'd have to trust your sources over my own, and mine include people who were actually at the unite the right rally in charlottesville and not info wars - do you realize that that's where this urine/feces story originates from? none other than alex jones. i would link to it here but it is not family friendly.  

and, i disagree with your opinion that they're characteristic of fascists. i suspect you have this opinion from all the rubbish 'news' you digest.

Are these sources reliable enough for you?

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/katie-couric-recalls-moment-her-producers-were-hit-by-urine-bomb-while-covering-charlottesville-rally/article/2632060

 

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/33-arrests-antifa-mob-assaults-police-elderly-woman-trump-supporter-overwhelm

 

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1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Ugh, filthy right wing white supremacist cops. Where's Antifa when you need them?

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I will tell you what definitely IS degenerated and criminal....the premise of this thread AND from it's low point of degeneracy...we have devolved 

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3 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

I will tell you what definitely IS degenerated and criminal....the premise of this thread AND from it's low point of degeneracy...we have devolved 

Just disavow all hate groups, problem solved.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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I find it weird that people are surprised when groups spring up that defend themselves against white supremacist groups and their violence.
Are they supposed to take all that brutality or do they fight back ?
If whites are feeling threatened by a counter attacks then we read all about target practice and soft targets and guns.
When blacks fight back white supremacists then all of a sudden we see a giant photo posted with a black guy's shirt saying kill white supremacy ?
Really ? Is that how it works ? You can attack but not defend yourself ? Hogwash !
It is pretty much Kindergarten basics to understand what's going on......who started it all ? Let's bring it down to that simple level, perhaps
people that are struggling with the definition of Fascism will understand it when we bring it down to their level and learn a bit in a political sense
before posting.
As to violent counter fights.....don't start what you can't finish. The oppressed no longer lay down and let white nut heads intimidate them. Period.
I denounce all violence but many do not and fight back...duh !
BLM is not a hate group and I am sick and tired of repeating myself and I wont try to convince anyone otherwise, just stay stupid about it and further
your agenda with fairy tales.
The fringe alt right hero worshippers need to harness their hate before pointing fingers, that's obvious and basic.
Antifa came into being due to violence from white supremacists. Period. Pick a fight and deal with the consequences, it's not about
denouncing Antifa, it's about stop spreading the white supremacists BS message that has violence and death attached to it's core then Antifa
has nothing to fight back for. Don't be so dang surprised if more groups like Antifa spring up due to an increase in white supremacy.
Deflecting on Antifa and BLM is absolutely ridiculous. Condemn white supremacy and self proclaimed nazis and stop getting your panties
in an uproar over those groups who are defending themselves. All you end up with is wedgies between your cheeks.
The stupidity and twisting of facts is the result of not wanting to know the truth, not caring about truth, it's about furthering an agenda and narratives
that fit the lost ones out there. The louder they scream the harder they will fall.

 

With all the mental disorder of the left talk, here is a bit of a nugget on EED and it's causes and symptoms.
The fringe alt right is exhibiting EED and that is a hard cold fact.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-new-resilience/201004/are-you-suffering-empathy-deficit-disorder

 

 

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13 hours ago, Póg mo said:

I didn't mention ANTIFA in the last post, but at any rate, it's irrelevant because the goals of ANTIFA mostly revolve around fighting right-wing hate groups. If those hate groups didn't exist, then ANTIFA would not either. The right likes to pretend that  groups like neo Nazis are separate from them, but fascist ideology doesn't come out of a vacuum.

I'm fairly certain Haitians migrating into Canada are not associated with any hate group on any side.  Nor are the Canadians who don't want them coming into their country.  Yet antifa is threatening those Canadians.  The gentle art of persuasion via projectiles or other physical violence?  OTWT

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5 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I'm fairly certain Haitians migrating into Canada are not associated with any hate group on any side.  Nor are the Canadians who don't want them coming into their country.  Yet antifa is threatening those Canadians.  The gentle art of persuasion via projectiles or other physical violence?  OTWT

Bless Antifa for threatening those white supremacist Canadians. 

 

WW2 has been raging for over 80 years now, can't wait when the Nazis finally get defeated.

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27 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

I find it weird that people are surprised when groups spring up that defend themselves against white supremacist groups and their violence.
Are they supposed to take all that brutality or do they fight back ?
If whites are feeling threatened by a counter attacks then we read all about target practice and soft targets and guns.
When blacks fight back white supremacists then all of a sudden we see a giant photo posted with a black guy's shirt saying kill white supremacy ?
Really ? Is that how it works ? You can attack but not defend yourself ? Hogwash !
It is pretty much Kindergarten basics to understand what's going on......who started it all ? Let's bring it down to that simple level, perhaps
people that are struggling with the definition of Fascism will understand it when we bring it down to their level and learn a bit in a political sense
before posting.
As to violent counter fights.....don't start what you can't finish. The oppressed no longer lay down and let white nut heads intimidate them. Period.
I denounce all violence but many do not and fight back...duh !
BLM is not a hate group and I am sick and tired of repeating myself and I wont try to convince anyone otherwise, just stay stupid about it and further
your agenda with fairy tales.
The fringe alt right hero worshippers need to harness their hate before pointing fingers, that's obvious and basic.
Antifa came into being due to violence from white supremacists. Period. Pick a fight and deal with the consequences, it's not about
denouncing Antifa, it's about stop spreading the white supremacists BS message that has violence and death attached to it's core then Antifa
has nothing to fight back for. Don't be so dang surprised if more groups like Antifa spring up due to an increase in white supremacy.
Deflecting on Antifa and BLM is absolutely ridiculous. Condemn white supremacy and self proclaimed nazis and stop getting your panties
in an uproar over those groups who are defending themselves. All you end up with is wedgies between your cheeks.
The stupidity and twisting of facts is the result of not wanting to know the truth, not caring about truth, it's about furthering an agenda and narratives
that fit the lost ones out there. The louder they scream the harder they will fall.

 

With all the mental disorder of the left talk, here is a bit of a nugget on EED and it's causes and symptoms.
The fringe alt right is exhibiting EED and that is a hard cold fact.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-new-resilience/201004/are-you-suffering-empathy-deficit-disorder

 

 

Indeed. 

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16 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Having taken the time to read this entire thread, I see no one who is posting who supports right wing supremacists.  Not one single person has said anything even remotely close to "white people are the best" or "down with minorities" or "what this country needs is fewer blacks".  The common uniting factor is that we all think that people who think or speak or act that way are to be discounted and ignored.

 

What I don't understand is those who think that antifa and blm are not hate groups.  Are they groups that spread love?  Are they achieving any of their goals by communicating with others in a manner that helps everyone to understand what is needed?  From what I have seen the last few years, they are groups that deserve just as much condemnation and discounting of their ways as those on the far right who think they actually have a cause.

They are groups defending their human rights that are under attack, love and talk only go so far with Nazis. Period.

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4 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

They are groups defending their human rights that are under attack, love and talk only go so far with Nazis. Period.

:rofl:

 

How is throwing urine and feces serving to defend anyone's human rights? These groups commit acts of violence at protests where white supremisists aren't even present. This narrative that these groups do what they do in response to Nazis doesn't really hold water.

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44 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Having taken the time to read this entire thread, I see no one who is posting who supports right wing supremacists.  Not one single person has said anything even remotely close to "white people are the best" or "down with minorities" or "what this country needs is fewer blacks".  The common uniting factor is that we all think that people who think or speak or act that way are to be discounted and ignored.

 

What I don't understand is those who think that antifa and blm are not hate groups.  Are they groups that spread love?  Are they achieving any of their goals by communicating with others in a manner that helps everyone to understand what is needed?  From what I have seen the last few years, they are groups that deserve just as much condemnation and discounting of their ways as those on the far right who think they actually have a cause.

There is no doubt neither Antifa nor BLM are out to help blacks or anyone else. They are solely out for a few reasons: 1) Physically intimidate people from dissenting views/opinions [fascism], 2) Politically get their way with said physical threats, not to mention threats upon people's livelihood i.e. jobs [one of the key elements of terrorism], 3) Exact their frustrations upon other people for not getting their way in the 2016 election [sheer childishness]. 

 

There is no possible positive motivation in either group, it's a front for terrorism and fascism under the guise of anti-fascism and anti-racism. I doubt there are seriously that many people so deluded as to really believe they are acting out for a good cause, even though a few seem to be here.

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