Administration floating immigrant "compromise" -- amnesty + wall

[IAMX 3,055]

The way this is being reported is quite interesting:

 

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President Donald Trump will hold a huge campaign rally in scorching Phoenix, Arizona, this evening, a day after he flip-flopped on one of his major campaign promises by sounding like a “classic neocon” during his Monday speech on Afghanistan.

Trump will rally his supporters as reports surface that his administration may be more willing than ever to give permanent amnesty to those who received President Barack Obama’s executive amnesty as part of a larger comprehensive immigration deal.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/22/livewire-donald-trump-holds-rally-in-arizona/

 

 

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Aides Urge Trump To Make Deal On ‘Dreamer’ Amnesty

Several of President Donald Trump’s most trusted advisers are urging him to make a deal with Congress to protect illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children in exchange for guarantees on the administration’s other immigration policy priorities.

Chief of Staff John Kelly, along with the president’s daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner, are among the contingent of White House officials pushing for a compromise on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, The Seattle Times reports. Others in the same camp include Vice President Mike Pence, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster and National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn.

The group wants Trump to accept some kind of permanent legal status for people amnestied under DACA in order to get Congress to approve funding the border wall and detention facilities, agree to cuts in legal immigration, and mandate e-Verify, a system that allows businesses to check the immigration status of potential employees.

Implemented by the Obama administration in 2012, DACA shields certain illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children from deportation and allows them to get work permits. About 800,000 people have obtained temporary legal status under DACA since the program’s inception.

 

Trump repeatedly bashed the program as an “illegal” executive amnesty during the campaign, but he has adopted a softer tone since assuming office, saying that the program recipients — commonly called “Dreamers” — should “rest easy.”

The administration ended a similar program last month for the illegal immigrant parents of U.S. citizen children known as Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA), which had already been suspended by a federal court decision. However, Trump allowed DACA to continue as an official policy and kept the program open to new qualifying applicants.

Ten states, led by Texas, are now attempting to force Trump’s hand on DACA through the federal courts. Last month, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent the Department of Justice a letter threatening a lawsuit if the administration doesn’t rescind DACA by Sept. 5.

 

 

 

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/22/aides-urge-trump-to-make-deal-on-dreamer-amnesty/

 

 

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Is the Trump administration laying the internal groundwork for an immigration reform package?  According to McClatchy, a compromise is taking shape under which the president would offer Democrats a codified amnesty for so-called "DREAMers" in exchange for the construction of his oft-touted border wall.  The report says that Trump's son-in-law and daughter favor the plan, with several key advisers warming to it as well -- including Vice President Pence and HR McMaster:  

Kelly & Javanka want an immigration deal that preserves DACA. Pence, McMaster, and Cohn reportedly warm to the idea https://t.co/zyGvdgEoV7

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) August 22, 2017

 

 

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/08/22/hmmm-trump-wh-gearing-up-for-immigration-deal-n2371763

 

Yet, if you read the fake news MSM with their reactionary clickbait headlines... (along with the usual lefty non-MSM entertainment)

 

Trump is holding DREAMers "hostage". 

 

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Could Trump Hold Dreamers Hostage for Border-Wall Funding?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/could-trump-hold-dreamers-hostage-for-border-wall-funding.html

 

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The Trump White House’s ugly new strategy: Use ‘dreamers’ as a bargaining chip

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/22/the-trump-white-houses-ugly-new-strategy-use-dreamers-as-a-bargaining-chip/

 

 

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Donald Trump is using Dreamers as a bargaining chip for funding a border wall

A Trump immigration deal could be very bad, indeed

 

 

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/22/donald-trump-is-using-dreamers-as-a-bargaining-chip-for-funding-a-border-wall/

 

 

 

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Democrats Nix Idea Of Trading Dreamers’ Protections For Border Wall, More Deportations

Top administration officials are reportedly pushing for a deal that would help young undocumented immigrants — by hurting their parents and community.

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-house-daca-dreamers_us_599c6eade4b06a788a2c3b72

 

 Pretty much everything that centers around the main hivemind premise: "Holding immigrants hostage", "using dreamers as a bargaining chip".

 

In the end, it won't bode well for Trump if this is a promise he breaks.

 

Anyways, the background of the idea seemingly comes from more liberal leaning Jared and Ivanka, often cited as "WH aides".

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2017 by IAMX

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

36 minutes ago, IAMX said:

The way this is being reported is quite interesting:

 

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/22/livewire-donald-trump-holds-rally-in-arizona/

 

 

 

 

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/22/aides-urge-trump-to-make-deal-on-dreamer-amnesty/

 

 

 

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/08/22/hmmm-trump-wh-gearing-up-for-immigration-deal-n2371763

 

Yet, if you read the fake news MSM with their reactionary clickbait headlines... (along with the usual lefty non-MSM entertainment)

 

Trump is holding DREAMers "hostage". 

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/could-trump-hold-dreamers-hostage-for-border-wall-funding.html

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/22/the-trump-white-houses-ugly-new-strategy-use-dreamers-as-a-bargaining-chip/

 

 

 

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/22/donald-trump-is-using-dreamers-as-a-bargaining-chip-for-funding-a-border-wall/

 

 

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-house-daca-dreamers_us_599c6eade4b06a788a2c3b72

 

 Pretty much everything that centers around the main hivemind premise: "Holding immigrants hostage", "using dreamers as a bargaining chip".

 

In the end, it won't bode well for Trump if this is a promise he breaks.

 

Anyways, the background of the idea seemingly comes from more liberal leaning Jared and Ivanka, often cited as "WH aides".

 

 

 

I have heard this before as well from different sources about trying to pass the immigration bill. He might hold the DACA's hostage in order to pass the immigration bill. Which I am up in the air about basically. 

[IAMX 3,055]

15 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

I have heard this before as well from different sources about trying to pass the immigration bill. He might hold the DACA's hostage in order to pass the immigration bill. Which I am up in the air about basically. 

Personally its a complete betrayal of a key promise he constantly made throughout his campaign and even after election.

 

I knew DACA would wind up being an important issue.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

3 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Personally its a complete betrayal of a key promise he constantly made throughout his campaign and even after election.

 

I knew DACA would wind up being an important issue.

Well honestly right now with the weak Republicans in Congress they won't be able to get anything passed right now immigration wise. Because DACA will be brought up and used by the Democrats and how "we need to let Dreamers become citizens". 

 

What was a complete betrayal? He always said DACA would be safe for the time being. 

[Boiler 44,852]

Amnesty is a no no.

[IAMX 3,055]

23 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Well honestly right now with the weak Republicans in Congress they won't be able to get anything passed right now immigration wise. Because DACA will be brought up and used by the Democrats and how "we need to let Dreamers become citizens". 

 

What was a complete betrayal? He always said DACA would be safe for the time being. 

By Trump's own words during the campaign and as President, DACA is "one of the most unconstitutional actions ever undertaken by a President".

 

I completely agree with him. Now the question is, why has he been wanting to keep this? This sort of hypocrisy is why I blasted Obama, Trump is certainly not immune from the same criticism of being a hypocrite if this is the avenue he goes. He could have axed DACA from day one and has not.

Edited August 23, 2017 by IAMX

[IAMX 3,055]

 

 

 

At a little into 17 minutes: "They support unconstitutional executive amnesty. Hillary Clinton has pledged amnesty in her first 100 days, and her plan will provide Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare for illegal immigrants breaking the federal budget."

 

At 23 minutes: "We are going to end catch and release". "Under my administration anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country and back to the country from which they came."

 

 

At 33 minutes: "Number 5, cancel unconstitutional executive orders and enforce all immigration laws. We will immediately terminate President Obama's two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants."

 

Number 5.. very unambiguous, DACA/DAPA.

 

Immediately has come and gone, yet DACA is still there. To this day, I believe DAPA might be gone, but DACA is very much alive, and now amnesty under consideration (a massive break of promises if came true), but the US also continues catch and release. 

 

He's made good progress thus far, but he still has far to go, and while some of these things (such as the wall) need time to go through Congress, things he could have done himself from the start like DACA/CaR, are something I don't think needs a compromise on -- his feet need to be held to the fire to fulfill these promises because he can at any time.

 

 

Edited August 23, 2017 by IAMX

[Teddy B 17,251]

10 hours ago, IAMX said:

Personally its a complete betrayal of a key promise he constantly made throughout his campaign and even after election.

 

I knew DACA would wind up being an important issue.

Tantrums!

 

[spookyturtle 9,465]

2 hours ago, Teddy B said:

Tantrums!

 

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Floating immigrant compromise? I'd say Trumps promises are more like the Titanic. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

The Titanic was for losers who lose (which is the opposite of win).

 

Trump has his own Trumptanic!

 

 

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Edited August 23, 2017 by CaliCat