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[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

The British government paid off all slave owners, with the exception of the bank bailout of 2009 it's the biggest bailout by the government. I wonder if the same option was made or could have been made to slave owners in the southern states and would it have prevented the civil war.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/british-history-slavery-buried-scale-revealed

 

I watched a BBC documentary a couple of years back and it was about indentured servitude and the Irish. It was an option made by the British to some who were deemed to have committed crimes. They were offered indentured servitude to be served in the Carribbean, even though the Irish were hated they were seen as one step above a coloured slave so the were made foremen on the sugar plantations in places like Barbados. On payday the Irish got drunk and would be found lying on the sides of the road drunk getting burned by the sun, eventually earning the nickname redlegs. 

 

While working on the plantations the coloured slaves learned skills, like farming, carpentry, machinery repair. The white Irish had no skills other than being a foreman so when the coloured slaves were given their freedom they flourished with the skills they learned. Today in Barbados the decendants of the redlegs are the poorest and live on very little just some crops they grow on the hillsides. My wife and I have made a couple of trips to Barbados, once to get married in 2008. Some of the sugar plantations are still running and have visitor centres.

 

Guinness is actually produced on the island and they make a version for the locals that is 7.5% in strength. I brought some back home and even the Guinness lovers back home couldn't handle it.

Edited August 24, 2017 by Mr&Mrs G.

[IAMX 3,055]

5 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

The British government paid off all slave owners, with the exception of the bank bailout of 2009 it's the biggest bailout by the government. I wonder if the same option was made or could have been made to slave owners in the southern states and would it have prevented the civil war.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/british-history-slavery-buried-scale-revealed

 

I watched a BBC documentary a couple of years back and it was about indentured servitude and the Irish. It was an option made by the British to some who were deemed to have committed crimes. They were offered indentured servitude to be served in the Carribbean, even though the Irish were hated they were seen as one step above a coloured slave so the were made foremen on the sugar plantations in places like Barbados. On payday the Irish got drunk and would be found lying on the sides of the road drunk getting burned by the sun, eventually earning the nickname redlegs. 

 

While working on the plantations the coloured slaves learned skills, like farming, carpentry, machinery repair. The white Irish had no skills other than being a foreman so when the coloured slaves were given their freedom they flourished with the skills they learned. Today in Barbados the decendants of the redlegs are the poorest and live on very little just some crops they grow on the hillsides. My wife and I have made a couple of trips to Barbados, once to get married in 2008. Some of the sugar plantations are still running and have visitor centres.

100% true. Can only wonder why any Brits would engage in mental gymnastics to revise history, unless in denial about Britain's role, especially the empires over the years.. very much involved in slavery. Of course, as an aside (unrelated to the post/topic), it wasn't merely "white people" who were engaging in slavery either. People in MENA, Asia, and the rest of Africa were far worse with slavery. At least in the UK and US it was an extreme minority who engaged in slavery.

Edited August 24, 2017 by IAMX

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

"The history of British slavery has been buried. The thousands of British families who grew rich on the slave trade, or from the sale of slave-produced sugar, in the 17th and 18th centuries, brushed those uncomfortable chapters of their dynastic stories under the carpet. Today, across the country, heritage plaques on Georgian townhouses describe former slave traders as “West India merchants”, while slave owners are hidden behind the equally euphemistic term “West India planter”"

 

Americans didn't go looking across the world for slaves they were shipped to their shores. The plaques on streets in the south will have the names of generals or key figures from the civil war and they will be marked as been from the confederacy, maybe they should have used southern India company to make it more palatable.

 

I think hiding or disguising the truth does no one any good. 

[IAMX 3,055]

1 minute ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

"The history of British slavery has been buried. The thousands of British families who grew rich on the slave trade, or from the sale of slave-produced sugar, in the 17th and 18th centuries, brushed those uncomfortable chapters of their dynastic stories under the carpet. Today, across the country, heritage plaques on Georgian townhouses describe former slave traders as “West India merchants”, while slave owners are hidden behind the equally euphemistic term “West India planter”"

 

Americans didn't go looking across the world for slaves they were shipped to their shores. The plaques on streets in the south will have the names of generals or key figures from the civil war and they will be marked as been from the confederacy, maybe they should have used southern India company to make it more palatable.

 

I think hiding or disguising the truth does no one any good. 

Maybe if lefties topple a few more statues they'll forget all about it. 

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20 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Maybe if lefties topple a few more statues they'll forget all about it. 

Burn a few books?

[IAMX 3,055]

22 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Burn a few books?

Books are fascist and offensive. Racism needs to be taught a lesson.

[Boiler 45,402]

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Boiler said:

I hear the skin of us white males burns the best.

[eieio 1,594]

2 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

No, it is unclear what his status was. We do not know who this person was. We can make some educated guesses, given that slavery was illegal within England and Wales at the time the bust was sculpted, and bearing in mind that in reality such Africans were likely working in situations where it was difficult to leave -- but not impossible, as there is case law where those brought to England sued for their freedom and won. In the absence of evidentiary proof, we cannot say yes, that man was definitely a slave. If proven wrong, I will be happy to accept that I was in error. 

You make a great case of how we can reduce the number of prostitutes. Just call them something else since in most places in the US, prostitution is illegal. 

 

 

Problem solved.

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

23 minutes ago, Boiler said:

 

 

 

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005852

 

The burning of books under the Nazi regime on May 10, 1933, is perhaps the most famous book burning in history.

 

It's been done already. Over 70 years ago, by the same people and ideology that inspired Trump supporters this week, to say there were some good Nazis in Charlottesville...

[Boiler 45,402]

And this inspired the regressives:

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

And this inspired the regressives:

 

Beats me what inspired the regressives, but they all rallied up behind Trump, and they believe there are some good Nazis. 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

12 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

 

 

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005852

 

The burning of books under the Nazi regime on May 10, 1933, is perhaps the most famous book burning in history.

 

It's been done already. Over 70 years ago, by the same people and ideology that inspired Trump supporters this week, to say there were some good Nazis in Charlottesville...

California the true blue state seems to have it's fair share and one even helped organise the mess in Charlottesville.

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/19/white-nationalism-on-rise-in-california-as-bay-area-girds-for-rallies-next-weekend/

 

"OAKDALE — As the Central Valley’s flatlands give way to the rolling hills of California horse country, this quiet city that calls itself “the Cowboy Capital of the World” and features weekly rodeos seems but a blip on Highway 120, halfway between San Francisco and Yosemite National Park.

But Oakdale, a city of about 22,000 people in Stanislaus County, is facing a new and frightening renown: A few miles from downtown, Nathan Damigo, one of the most prominent new white nationalist leaders in America, runs a group that helped organize last weekend’s bloody rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

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We may not know this busty guy or his status in life.  But you keep saying slavery wasn't legal in England.  If that is the case, then how come William I passed a law that slaves could no longer be exported from England?  Pretty sure he came before William III.  So at that point, slavery WAS legal in England.  Ergo, slavery couldn't have been illegal prior to that 1807 doohickey.  Or am am I missing something here?  Admittedly, I am not very "up" on the goings on of England, neither today nor 300 years ago.

 

(Other than the fact that they traded slaves, were doing so before America even existed, and yet America is where all the hubbub about slavery centers, to this day. Amazing...)

 

2 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

No, it is unclear what his status was. We do not know who this person was. We can make some educated guesses, given that slavery was illegal within England and Wales at the time the bust was sculpted, and bearing in mind that in reality such Africans were likely working in situations where it was difficult to leave -- but not impossible, as there is case law where those brought to England sued for their freedom and won. In the absence of evidentiary proof, we cannot say yes, that man was definitely a slave. If proven wrong, I will be happy to accept that I was in error. 

Edited August 24, 2017 by IDWAF

[CaliCat 3,957]

12 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

We may not know this busty guy or his status in life.  But you keep saying slavery wasn't legal in England.  If that is the case, then how come William I passed a law that slaves could no longer be exported from England?  Pretty sure he came before William III.  So at that point, slavery WAS legal in England.  Ergo, slavery couldn't have been illegal prior to that 1807 doohickey.  Or am am I missing something here?  Admittedly, I am not very "up" on the goings on of England, neither today nor 300 years ago.

 

(Other than the fact that they traded slaves, were doing so before America even existed, and yet America is where all the hubbub about slavery centers, to this day. Amazing...)

 

 

I think it's because slavery and the American ideals could not be more diametrically opposite, that many around the world had trouble reconciling the fact that way into the 60s, the most powerful nation on Earth, still treated a great part of its citizens as second class individuals. That for over 100 years after the defeat of the south, there were still laws in place that segregated blacks from whites.

 

Back to topic, it's also hard to reconcile that some individuals, call that shameful and heinous past their heritage, and proudly so.