Jeh Johnson: Removal of Confederate Statues a Matter of ‘Homeland Security’

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37 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

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On ‎8‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 8:01 AM, IAMX said:

Lee's reputation outside of the south is obviously negative, but the contention here is not that statues of him should be erected where they don't want it. It's where they do want it because Lee represents many positive traits to southern culture.

 

And of course I will reiterate about the awful "you lost"/"wrong side" argument, this justifies getting rid of Mexican missions in California, not to mention all this honoring of Native Americans. They were on the wrong side. Why honor losers?

 

Bad argument.

If your considered opinion is that The South was on par with what was done to Native Americans, then it's pretty obvious that it is you that completely fails to understand history.

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On ‎8‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 6:35 PM, IAMX said:

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the 1960's Civil Rights Movement? The Civil War prevented the South from secession but it hardly improved how the losers of the conflict treated former slaves, their children, grand children and great grandchildren.

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So a question, when do we get rid of statues of real relatively modern white supremacist?  I can think of one prominent democratic senator that has a lot of things named after him, or statues of him around and he was not shy at all of speaking his mind about white supremacy and his opposition to the civil rights bill personally filibustering for more than 14 hours.  Yet this person is now a respected member of the Democratic history.

 

Do I think this is a national security issue, not a chance, but it is interesting how statues of a culture so long ago is now being attacked, but a more recent example is praised in many political circles. 

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

So a question, when do we get rid of statues of real relatively modern white supremacist?  I can think of one prominent democratic senator that has a lot of things named after him, or statues of him around and he was not shy at all of speaking his mind about white supremacy and his opposition to the civil rights bill personally filibustering for more than 14 hours.  Yet this person is now a respected member of the Democratic history.

 

Do I think this is a national security issue, not a chance, but it is interesting how statues of a culture so long ago is now being attacked, but a more recent example is praised in many political circles. 

 

   Perhaps if you were a little less vague, we could discuss it.

 

   I stated previously, with Columbus as an example, that if new evidence of atrocities or criminal acts come to light, we really shouldn't be keeping these statues or monuments. They are an honor, and a person should be worthy of that honor.

 

   For the record I'm not a big fan of statues or monuments anyway, but I think building and/or removal should be done T the municipal level. At a national level, I wish they would think long and hard before it's done. 

Edited August 26, 2017 by Steeleballz

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5 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

If your considered opinion is that The South was on par with what was done to Native Americans, then it's pretty obvious that it is you that completely fails to understand history.

Or that you prefer to treat history as your personal book of narratives instead of respecting it. The mental gymnastics espoused here tells me you have an extremely tough time with history when it doesn't conform to the overt cries of "everything I don't like is racist".

Edited August 26, 2017 by IAMX

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5 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

So a question, when do we get rid of statues of real relatively modern white supremacist?  I can think of one prominent democratic senator that has a lot of things named after him, or statues of him around and he was not shy at all of speaking his mind about white supremacy and his opposition to the civil rights bill personally filibustering for more than 14 hours.  Yet this person is now a respected member of the Democratic history.

 

Do I think this is a national security issue, not a chance, but it is interesting how statues of a culture so long ago is now being attacked, but a more recent example is praised in many political circles. 

Well, given the recent ISIS fanaticism with destroying monuments, the left are jealous that their monument destroying brethren are doing a better job. 

 

Gotta pick up the pace, god willing.

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6 minutes ago, IAMX said:

 

Gotta pick up the pace, god willing.

That is what worries me most, it is like some sort of weird religion.

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Just now, Boiler said:

That is what worries me most, it is like some sort of weird religion.

Just as destructive, and stupid.