The wussifying of America

[Alex+R 0]

I was using it for its conversational tone. If you have some insight into Australian word choice and what it signifies, I'd love to hear it, but neither I nor any other American here knows what the heck you're talking about, Infidel.

Edited April 19, 2007 by Alex+R

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Saying 'y'all' is racist? Or indicative of an ethnic group? Ever traveled to the South? I mean, the South is sort of like an ethnic group, except for how it's not, but I can see how you might think that if you left your brain at home.

Alex is no southern gal.. I have never ever heard her say anything in a southern tone. She was clearly patronizing kaydee457..

So what...?

[Heracles 417]

"Y'all" is not a word used by a certain race. Please try to learn a little about the country you live in.

Are seriously gone to sit here and tell me you where not patronizing kaydee457 with the Y'all..

That is it I want Alex fired from this forum. I think we should protest and force the hosting company to pull the plug on visajourney until they ban her..

Saying 'y'all' is racist? Or indicative of an ethnic group? Ever traveled to the South? I mean, the South is sort of like an ethnic group, except for how it's not, but I can see how you might think that if you left your brain at home.

Alex is no southern gal.. I have never ever heard her say anything in a southern tone. She was clearly patronizing kaydee457..

So what...?

What are your views on calling people rednecks? Is that racist?

Edited April 19, 2007 by Infidel

[Jenn! 918]

What a silly argument.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What are your views on calling people rednecks? Is that racist?

Umm... she didn't call him a redneck though... "Ya'll" belongs up there with "yeehaw" IMO. You've not seen Dr Strangelove have you? Context is everything.

If you want to talk "patronising" I'd suggest you take a look at Kaydee's old O/T posts. Personally speaking, I'd use a much more colorful set of words on the guy - but frankly, I wouldn't waste them on an idiot arsehole. Which he is.

Moreover, I think this entire thread stinks of "affected outrage" - I'm not sure its really necessary to be adding to it.

Edited April 19, 2007 by erekose

[Alex+R 0]

What a silly argument.

I pulled out before someone brought any fattening popcorn to the party...

[Heracles 417]

What a silly argument.

Like that was not predictable..

[Heracles 417]

What are your views on calling people rednecks? Is that racist?

Umm... she didn't call him a redneck though... "Ya'll" belongs up there with "yeehaw" IMO. You've not seen Dr Strangelove have you? Context is everything.

If you want to talk "patronising" I'd suggest you take a look at Kaydee's old O/T posts. Personally speaking, I'd use a much more colorful set of words on the guy - but frankly, I wouldn't waste them on an idiot arsehole. Which he is.

Moreover, I think this entire thread stinks of "affected outrage" - I'm not sure its really necessary to be adding to it.

Unless it is a white guy saying something about someone black. Then context means nothing.

Alex is someone who has no respect for anyone with opposing views. Nor does she take half a millisecond to listen to them. Now 'her' general five word posts are proof of that.. Most of us here have different and even opposing views. Yet we at least take the time to listen to each other. Hence this being a foum and not a liberal blog. Without naming anyone else, there are a few people here who do this. That is, post a few comments and then act as if they are too good to listen to anything anyone else with opposing views has to say.

Edited April 19, 2007 by Infidel

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What are your views on calling people rednecks? Is that racist?

Umm... she didn't call him a redneck though... "Ya'll" belongs up there with "yeehaw" IMO. You've not seen Dr Strangelove have you? Context is everything.

If you want to talk "patronising" I'd suggest you take a look at Kaydee's old O/T posts. Personally speaking, I'd use a much more colorful set of words on the guy - but frankly, I wouldn't waste them on an idiot arsehole. Which he is.

Moreover, I think this entire thread stinks of "affected outrage" - I'm not sure its really necessary to be adding to it.

Unless it is a white guy saying something about someone black. Then context means nothing.

Alex is someone who has no respect for anyone with opposing views. Nor does she take half a millisecond to listen to them. Now 'her' general five word posts are proof of that.. Most of us here have different and even opposing views but at least we take the time to listen to each other.. Without naming anyone there are a few people who do this. That is, post a few comments and then act as if they are too good to listen to anything anyone else with opposing has to say.

That's funny mate - because you described Kaydee to a tee As for not naming anyone... you already did...

I'm really not sure why you're so offended by a southern colloquialism, but there you go...

[Alex+R 0]

I'm very interested in well thought out opinions that don't come from ignorance or hatred. Some people consistently say stupid and/or hateful things, and I consistently ignore them.

[Heracles 417]

That's funny mate - because you described Kaydee to a tee As for not naming anyone... you already did...

I'm really not sure why you're so offended by a southern colloquialism, but there you go...

I am not offended at all. That is the difference between most of us to Jesse Jackson and co. I was just making a point as I have never ever heard Alex improvise or use slang like that..

[mybackpages 0]

I'm very interested in well thought out opinions that don't come from ignorance or hatred. Some people consistently say stupid and/or hateful things, and I consistently ignore them.

smart girl

[MPGGPM 0]

It's ugly to think about, but we as Americans have lost our stomach for a good fight. We'd rather die a blameless death than be judged for standing up and protecting ourselves. I'm not saying go out and fight someone because they piss you off. I am saying though, next time you see something like a massacre of students by ONE MAN armed with pistols, instead of telling your kids to be careful at school and to run away from impending death, teach them to fight back, and rely on courage and the will to not go down without a fight. If just one of those students would've rushed the gunman, perhaps another would've helped. Then another, then another, then another, and before you know it, instead of 33 dead, we have 3. The three that first rushed the gunman and died saving the rest of their class. The three that will be remembered as heroes... not victims.

I don't see how this is just an "American" trait.

When you look at history, unfortunately, I think it is just human nature, when faced with such odds, to almost give up and face their deaths.

What happened there other day, to me does not seem much different than the behavior all those unfortunate souls faced during WW2, in the German concentration camps, where , I am sure if you counted the amount of people in those camps, they would no doubt by FAR outnumber the guards watching them.

And yet, even though , perhaps had they mounted some kind of attack on them..............in force................many of them might have succeeded in escaping to their freedom, they almost never tried to do any such thing.

Instead, they just basically lost their will................and allowed themselves to be marched to their deaths.

That's just one example, but I would imagine, it wouldn't be too hard to look up and find other examples of similar situations.

I think what you saw the other day was more and example of "human nature".....rather than "American nature".

I don't see how you make such a distinction that it is just us Americans who behaved in such a way.

Especially, with you having ties to Russia..........................don't you remember that "theater" in Russia, where the people in the theater were gassed to death. And even though the people holding them hostage , were just a few and far outnumbered................no one fought back.

From the account I read, there were 850 hostages.....................compared to only 33 terrorists.

They were only freed because of the Russian "special forces" , who stormed the building.

Even so, 129 people died.................all of whom, "could" have fought back......but "didn't".

[Heracles 417]

It's ugly to think about, but we as Americans have lost our stomach for a good fight. We'd rather die a blameless death than be judged for standing up and protecting ourselves. I'm not saying go out and fight someone because they piss you off. I am saying though, next time you see something like a massacre of students by ONE MAN armed with pistols, instead of telling your kids to be careful at school and to run away from impending death, teach them to fight back, and rely on courage and the will to not go down without a fight. If just one of those students would've rushed the gunman, perhaps another would've helped. Then another, then another, then another, and before you know it, instead of 33 dead, we have 3. The three that first rushed the gunman and died saving the rest of their class. The three that will be remembered as heroes... not victims.

I don't see how this is just an "American" trait.

When you look at history, unfortunately, I think it is just human nature, when faced with such odds, to almost give up and face their deaths.

What happened there other day, to me does not seem much different than the behavior all those unfortunate souls faced during WW2, in the German concentration camps, where , I am sure if you counted the amount of people in those camps, they would no doubt by FAR outnumber the guards watching them.

And yet, even though , perhaps had they mounted some kind of attack on them..............in force................many of them might have succeeded in escaping to their freedom, they almost never tried to do any such thing.

Instead, they just basically lost their will................and allowed themselves to be marched to their deaths.

That's just one example, but I would imagine, it wouldn't be too hard to look up and find other examples of similar situations.

I think what you saw the other day was more and example of "human nature".....rather than "American nature".

I don't see how you make such a distinction that it is just us Americans who behaved in such a way.

Especially, with you having ties to Russia..........................don't you remember that "theater" in Russia, where the people in the theater were gassed to death. And even though the people holding them hostage , were just a few and far outnumbered................no one fought back.

From the account I read, there were 850 hostages.....................compared to only 33 terrorists.

They were only freed because of the Russian "special forces" , who stormed the building.

Even so, 129 people died.................all of whom, "could" have fought back......but "didn't".

I think what you are describing is the western world, especially Europe. Very few people nowadays would put their life on the line to save others.

[Heracles 417]

I'm very interested in well thought out opinions that don't come from ignorance or hatred. Some people consistently say stupid and/or hateful things, and I consistently ignore them.

riiighty oh.. Can you show me how many discussions you have genuinely contributed too?? Most of your posts contain no more than a sentence or two..

Edited April 19, 2007 by Infidel