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11 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Obama, after the Dallas police shootings, in which five officers were killed, refused to directly condemn any hate groups. He said: "Surely even those who dislike the phrase Black Lives Matter, should be able to hear the pain... none of us is entirely innocent, no institution is entirely immune... "
There was little/no media reaction.

 

Trump, after the violence in Charlottesville: "We must condemn the violence on both sides"and then later went on to expressly condemn the KKK, neo-nazis and white supremacists in a separate speech.
Media reaction: "OMG Trump is a neo-Nazi sympathising nazi!!

I am surprised the media hasn't charged Trump with plagiarism.

 

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14 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Obama, after the Dallas police shootings, in which five officers were killed, refused to directly condemn any hate groups. He said: "Surely even those who dislike the phrase Black Lives Matter, should be able to hear the pain... none of us is entirely innocent, no institution is entirely immune... "
There was little/no media reaction.

 

Trump, after the violence in Charlottesville: "We must condemn the violence on both sides"and then later went on to expressly condemn the KKK, neo-nazis and white supremacists in a separate speech.
Media reaction: "OMG Trump is a neo-Nazi sympathising nazi!!

Hence why the left aren't taken seriously.

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1 minute ago, IAMX said:

Hence why the left aren't taken seriously.

They actually are taken seriously by their allies in the Left Wing media.

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50 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Obama, after the Dallas police shootings, in which five officers were killed, refused to directly condemn any hate groups. He said: "Surely even those who dislike the phrase Black Lives Matter, should be able to hear the pain... none of us is entirely innocent, no institution is entirely immune... "
There was little/no media reaction.

 

Trump, after the violence in Charlottesville: "We must condemn the violence on both sides"and then later went on to expressly condemn the KKK, neo-nazis and white supremacists in a separate speech.
Media reaction: "OMG Trump is a neo-Nazi sympathising nazi!!

we have a tremendous grasp of English, all sides of it 

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Obama, after the Dallas police shootings, in which five officers were killed, refused to directly condemn any hate groups. He said: "Surely even those who dislike the phrase Black Lives Matter, should be able to hear the pain... none of us is entirely innocent, no institution is entirely immune... "
There was little/no media reaction.

 

Trump, after the violence in Charlottesville: "We must condemn the violence on both sides"and then later went on to expressly condemn the KKK, neo-nazis and white supremacists in a separate speech.
Media reaction: "OMG Trump is a neo-Nazi sympathising nazi!!

 

Again, lack of moral equivalence.,

 

When it comes to a neo-Nazi supremacist groups, there is really very little to argue. 

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2 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

Again, lack of moral equivalence.,

 

When it comes to a neo-Nazi supremacist groups, there is really very little to argue. 

It's incredible that people on here are trying to make moral equivalences. There is simply no comparison.

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12 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

It's incredible that people on here are trying to make moral equivalences. There is simply no comparison.

I think it is more of people pointing out the hypocrisy of the MDL and their allies in the media.  There is no moral equivilancy to be made between hate groups from the Left or the Right, they are all to be denounced.

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47 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Seems like Trump never got the memo.

Did he justify the violence from the Right hate groups by pointing out the violence from the Left hate groups?  It seems to me he was simply pointing out there are bad actors on each side and that is absolutely correct just search Antifa Exposed on YouTube.

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Did he justify the violence from the Right hate groups by pointing out the violence from the Left hate groups?  It seems to me he was simply pointing out there are bad actors on each side and that is absolutely correct just search Antifa Exposed on YouTube.

 

  Hey Putin's a killer, but that's OK, lets have him over for tea, cause there's killers everywhere. Moral equivalence. Sorry Bill, if it walks like a rat and smells like a rat, it's probably Trump. Seems to me we'll be hearing excuses for the next 3 years. 

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2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Hey Putin's a killer, but that's OK, lets have him over for tea, cause there's killers everywhere. Moral equivalence. Sorry Bill, if it walks like a rat and smells like a rat, it's probably Trump. Seems to me we'll be hearing excuses for the next 3 years. 

Didn't we get excuses for eight years already?  What else is new?  Six Dallas police officers gunned down by a BLM supporter and did Obama call out BLM as a racist hate group?  Didn't think so.  The point of this thread is how Obama is treated by the Left Wing press compared to Trump.  Trump could have called out the Right Wing hate groups only right from the start and that would not have satisfied those that hate him no matter what.  He is in a lose lose situation regardless, people are going to label him a fascist, a racist, a homophobe or whatever with no evidence.  It is insincere to not point out that there are bad actors on both sides regardless of how much the MDL and their allies in the press bury their heads in the sand with respect to those hate groups that share some of their ideologies.

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1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Hey Putin's a killer, but that's OK, lets have him over for tea, cause there's killers everywhere. Moral equivalence. Sorry Bill, if it walks like a rat and smells like a rat, it's probably Trump. Seems to me we'll be hearing excuses for the next 3 years. 

You know, under Obama all those years when Putin not only poisoned his opponents but poisoned opposition government figures in Ukraine (i.e. sympathetic western figures, when he all but openly demanded that Ukraine will have a pro-Russia government), and even interfered with Georgia, the left didn't bat an eye. No cares whatsoever.

 

It's only with the surfacing of this failed Russian conspiracy and connecting it to losing a US election do they even care, so conveniently.

 

My best bet is for the left to start walking back this conspiracy and pretend it never happened, the only effect it has of acting like Putin suddenly matters is making them look more like psychopath conspiracy nuts. They had all those years of Obama without one iota of pressure on him to do anything about Russia. Their choices are either let it go, or look worse. I'm all for either choice.

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7 minutes ago, IAMX said:

You know, under Obama all those years when Putin not only poisoned his opponents but poisoned opposition government figures in Ukraine (i.e. sympathetic western figures, when he all but openly demanded that Ukraine will have a pro-Russia government), and even interfered with Georgia, the left didn't bat an eye. No cares whatsoever.

 

It's only with the surfacing of this failed Russian conspiracy and connecting it to losing a US election do they even care, so conveniently.

 

My best bet is for the left to start walking back this conspiracy and pretend it never happened, the only effect it has of acting like Putin suddenly matters is making them look more like psychopath conspiracy nuts.

    Most of the current sanctions on Russia were initiated by Obama. Trump has been reluctant to sign anything unless congress forces him to. In imaginary land, we can have it however we want. In real life, there's no comparison between the reactions of the two towards Putin.

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