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  On 8/16/2017 at 1:02 AM, trudi said:

Is there nothing you can't make a political statement with?

 

I don't care what nationality this man is, or his immigration status - the only thing of concern is that he is never free to walk the streets of any country ever again.

 

Horrific, that poor child :(

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Well said.

 

It speaks a lot about an individual when they seek to use something like this to score imaginary "political points" about immigration status.

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  On 8/16/2017 at 3:17 PM, bcking said:

Well said.

 

It speaks a lot about an individual when they seek to use something like this to score imaginary "political points" about immigration status.

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it also speaks to the definition of xenophobia.

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  On 8/16/2017 at 3:12 PM, smilesammich said:

call it denial if you wish, in my mind demonizing blm is supporting kkk and nazis so at this point you're talking to the hand ;)

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that's odd logic.  demonize one is supporting other radical groups?
gee i demonize all of them.  i guess i support all of them  :P

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Wash your mouth out with soap.

 

He is not Illegal, no person is illegal.

 

 

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  On 8/16/2017 at 9:10 PM, Boiler said:

 no person is illegal.

 

 

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unless you're a fetus.

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  On 8/16/2017 at 9:59 PM, Ban Hammer said:

unless you're a fetus.

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Did say person

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So, because certain immigrants are despicable and commit crimes, we automatically can't have empathy for the hundreds of non crime committing families (besides ilegal immigration before everyone jumps, I know it's a crime) including all the kids that were brought to the United States and literally couldn't do anything about it, and now live in fear? 

We already knew this. We know crime can be committed by anyone, despite their immigration status. I don't think anyone have ever said  that they are all magical angels that are incapable of serious crimes. And if they did, well I think it's dumb. The satirical tone of your post and your intention to further infuriate people as you have previously stated, actually underlines a bigger problem. 

 

Cherry picking these cases to support the narrative that all immigrants are evil and deserve whatever they get, also has a negative repercussion on all the people that have immigrated legally, and all of us that are in the process of doing things legally. We have discussed in the past that is ''the unfortunate reality of how we all pay for the sins of others'' but continuing to fuel this division is just continuing to cause harm, more than anything. 

We get it. ilegal immigration should be stopped, and I'm not being sardonic. Some of the measurements to prevent and correct it, while understandable (Deportations, jail time) are still sad events to many. I can still feel bad for them, especially the kids. This is a complex problem, and not something that can be always seen as black or white, no pun intended. 

 

 

 

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  On 8/16/2017 at 10:58 PM, Dianalorena said:

So, because certain immigrants are despicable and commit crimes, we automatically can't have empathy for the hundreds of non crime committing families (besides ilegal immigration before everyone jumps, I know it's a crime) including all the kids that were brought to the United States and literally couldn't do anything about it, and now live in fear? 

We already knew this. We know crime can be committed by anyone, despite their immigration status. I don't think anyone have ever said  that they are all magical angels that are incapable of serious crimes. And if they did, well I think it's dumb. The satirical tone of your post and your intention to further infuriate people as you have previously stated, actually underlines a bigger problem. 

 

Cherry picking these cases to support the narrative that all immigrants are evil and deserve whatever they get, also has a negative repercussion on all the people that have immigrated legally, and all of us that are in the process of doing things legally. We have discussed in the past that is ''the unfortunate reality of how we all pay for the sins of others'' but continuing to fuel this division is just continuing to cause harm, more than anything. 

We get it. ilegal immigration should be stopped, and I'm not being sardonic. Some of the measurements to prevent and correct it, while understandable (Deportations, jail time) are still sad events to many. I can still feel bad for them, especially the kids. This is a complex problem, and not something that can be always seen as black or white, no pun intended. 

 

 

 

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I'm guessing the article was posted to show that Trump is cracking down on illegal immigration even though this criminal had been deported before and returned again illegally. It was Obama's fault somehow. 

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  On 8/16/2017 at 10:58 PM, Dianalorena said:

So, because certain immigrants are despicable and commit crimes, we automatically can't have empathy for the hundreds of non crime committing families (besides ilegal immigration before everyone jumps, I know it's a crime) including all the kids that were brought to the United States and literally couldn't do anything about it, and now live in fear? 

We already knew this. We know crime can be committed by anyone, despite their immigration status. I don't think anyone have ever said  that they are all magical angels that are incapable of serious crimes. And if they did, well I think it's dumb. The satirical tone of your post and your intention to further infuriate people as you have previously stated, actually underlines a bigger problem. 

 

Cherry picking these cases to support the narrative that all immigrants are evil and deserve whatever they get, also has a negative repercussion on all the people that have immigrated legally, and all of us that are in the process of doing things legally. We have discussed in the past that is ''the unfortunate reality of how we all pay for the sins of others'' but continuing to fuel this division is just continuing to cause harm, more than anything. 

We get it. ilegal immigration should be stopped, and I'm not being sardonic. Some of the measurements to prevent and correct it, while understandable (Deportations, jail time) are still sad events to many. I can still feel bad for them, especially the kids. This is a complex problem, and not something that can be always seen as black or white, no pun intended. 

 

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I assume what annoys many of us is calling them Immigrants.

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  On 8/16/2017 at 9:10 PM, Boiler said:

Wash your mouth out with soap.

 

He is not Illegal, no person is illegal.

 

 

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Illegal is also not a race. So the left should stop calling people who oppose illegal immigration racist.

 

  On 8/16/2017 at 10:58 PM, Dianalorena said:

So, because certain immigrants are despicable and commit crimes, we automatically can't have empathy for the hundreds of non crime committing families (besides ilegal immigration before everyone jumps, I know it's a crime) including all the kids that were brought to the United States and literally couldn't do anything about it, and now live in fear? 

We already knew this. We know crime can be committed by anyone, despite their immigration status. I don't think anyone have ever said  that they are all magical angels that are incapable of serious crimes. And if they did, well I think it's dumb. The satirical tone of your post and your intention to further infuriate people as you have previously stated, actually underlines a bigger problem. 

 

Cherry picking these cases to support the narrative that all immigrants are evil and deserve whatever they get, also has a negative repercussion on all the people that have immigrated legally, and all of us that are in the process of doing things legally. We have discussed in the past that is ''the unfortunate reality of how we all pay for the sins of others'' but continuing to fuel this division is just continuing to cause harm, more than anything. 

We get it. ilegal immigration should be stopped, and I'm not being sardonic. Some of the measurements to prevent and correct it, while understandable (Deportations, jail time) are still sad events to many. I can still feel bad for them, especially the kids. This is a complex problem, and not something that can be always seen as black or white, no pun intended. 

 

 

 

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First of all no one is saying all immigrants are evil. Secondly the act of illegal immigration its self has negative repercussions for legal immigrants. At the very least one could argue that it is unfair that legal immigrants have to jump through all the hoops and pay thousands of dollars then wait about a year or more  (If you are lucky and don't make any mistakes) to come here while illegals come here whenever they decide to, pay no fees and have no hoops to jump through. Oh yeah illegals in many cases qualify for government assistance while many legal immigrants have to agree to take no government assistance for 10 years.

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  On 8/16/2017 at 11:14 PM, jg121783 said:

Illegal is also not a race. So the left should stop calling people who oppose illegal immigration racist.

 

First of all no one is saying all immigrants are evil. Secondly the act of illegal immigration its self has negative repercussions for legal immigrants. At the very least one could argue that it is unfair that legal immigrants have to jump through all the hoops and pay thousands of dollars then wait about a year or more  (If you are lucky and don't make any mistakes) to come here while illegals come here whenever they decide to, pay no fees and have no hoops to jump through. Oh yeah illegals in many cases qualify for government assistance while many legal immigrants have to agree to take no government assistance for 10 years.

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Same thing for Muslims, right? They're not all evil or terrorists but they suffer from negative repercussions from the bad ones. 

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  On 8/16/2017 at 11:27 PM, spookyturtle said:

Same thing for Muslims, right? They're not all evil or terrorists but they suffer from negative repercussions from the bad ones. 

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And Nazi's

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