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Posted
53 minutes ago, londonboyjay said:

I asked for a timeline and they said the average is 6-10 months.

rofl

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

rofl

Quite 🙄🙄🙄

Spoiler

 

K1

15 November 2013: Sent I-129F Package 

21 November 2013: NOA1 

20 December 2013: NOA2

23 January 2014: Medical (London)

11 April 2014: Interview - Approved!

29 April 2014: POE Chicago

20 June 2014: Married in DC

AOS

7 July 2014: Mailed AOSEAD & AP forms via USPS

14 July 2014: NOA1 Text & E-Mails (x3) received at 23:52hrs (Received Date: 07/11/2014)

14 July 2014: Cheque cashed & I-485 transferred to Nebraska Service Centre

18 July 2014: NOA1 hardcopy received (x3)

22 July 2014: Biometrics Letter rec'd (Appointment 07/31/2014)

23 July 2014: Early Biometrics walk-in at Cincinnati office successful!

05 September 2014: EAD & AP approved! (texts rec'd 16:45hrs)

11 September 2014: EAD/AP card mailed

12 September 2014: EAD/AP card in hand (delivered 9:54am)

18 October 2014: Potential interview waiver letter rec'd (Dated: 10/15/2014)

19 May 2015: I-485 approved! (No interview) Welcome letter mailed!

23 May 2015: I-797 (NOA2) Welcome notice received

27 May 2015: Green card received

 

ROC

ROC filing window opens 18 February 2017

16 February 2017: ROC packet mailed to CSC

18 February 2017: USPS Tracking - Ready for collection from PO Box

25 February 2017: NOA1 received dated 02/21/2017

03 March 2017: Received biometrics appointment letter dated 25th February 2017. Appointment on 16 March 2017.

16 March 2017: Biometrics completed

08 March 2018: Case (allegedly) transferred to the National Benefits Center (presumably for a combo interview)

04 April 2019: ROC approved (as part of N-400 combo interview)

N-400

18 February 2018: N-400 Application submitted online

21 February 2018: NOA1 Rreceived

23 February 2018: Biometrics appointment letter received. Appointment 13 March 2018. 

27 April 2018: Interview notice received. Interview Date: June 5, 2018. Request to reschedule sent as out of the country at that time.

04 April 2019: Attended interview ... PASSED!

11 April 2019: Oath ceremony

Posted
1 hour ago, londonboyjay said:

I called them at around 9am EST and the wait was around 10 minutes total. It wasn't nearly as long as I thought it'd be. I guess I'll just keep checking the mail and call them once a month.

You don't need to call them, it will come when it comes.  Calling unnecessarily just makes the wait that much longer for all the other people who have actual problems to discuss with CIS.

 

This is not directed at only you, but if all people would stop freaking out and stop calling them to check status, the wait times wouldn't be so bad.  There is no reason to check status EVERY day.  Yes, we know there are people who do that because they freely admit to doing so on this board.

 

My wife is normally a worry-wart, but she was so calm about it that we were surprised when we got the email about ROC being approved because we forgot that we had sent it.  Stressing out over it can't be good for the mind and body.  Relax.   

Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

but if all people would stop freaking out and stop calling them to check status, the wait times wouldn't be so bad. 

With all due respect, this is utter rubbish.

There aren't specific resources allocated for I-751 matters. The call centre is there for ALL USCIS matters, and there is a queuing system for the specified number of tier 2 officers who are available to take any queries from anyone, which is why the call back time is quite often several hours or more. It isn't like the I-751 adjudicators are being pulled from their desks to help take calls to the mis-information line, of officers are being pulled from airport desks in order to do call backs!

 

Perhaps if USCIS was a) efficient b) modernised c) well trained d) consistent e) truthful) f) transparent, and loads more stuff I really can't be bothered to list right now, then people wouldn't be freaking out in the first place or have any NEED to contact them.

Perhaps if communication and policy was clear so that people didn't think their status expires after their extension letter, then they wouldn't need to call or go to an infopass. 

Perhaps if  a second extension was automatically mailed out after the first year, having to get these stupid stamps wouldn't be an issue either.

Perhaps if they updated the online case status to show EVERYTHING relevant when their is new action (mine still shows 'On May xx, 2015, we received your Form CRI-89, Petition to Remove Conditions of Permanent Resident Status Received, Receipt Number EACxxxxxxxxxx, and sent you the receipt notice that describes how we will process your case. Please follow the instructions in the notice. If you do not receive your receipt notice by June 6, 2015, please call Customer Service at 1-800-375-5283. If you move, go to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.") then perhaps people wouldn't be chasing it up.

 

 

Unfortunately the situation is what it is, but you can't then turn around and blame the people who are PAYING for this service, who then simply want to know what the hell is going on with what is quite a major factor in their lives, when they have been told nothing.

 

 

 

 

/rant

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, londonboyjay said:

So I called Vermont today and managed to speak to the second tier. They said that I'm no longer able to check the status of my case online.

I can't think of any circumstance in which this would possibly be true. There is zero reason why *your* case would become some sort of anomaly in which the ability to track your case would suddenly be denied to you and you alone. I believe that's what they told you, but I also believe they had no idea what they were talking about (surprise surprise). You still have the one-year extension letter, right? So if the receipt number they quoted to you over the phone is the same one that is written on your extension letter, then they were absolutely wrong. That's because you can't use that receipt number to check your case status. Nobody can. It's a completely different number from the second one you get on the biometrics notice, which you would be able to use to check your status.

 

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how you can get the correct receipt number when they're giving you misinformation, short of finding that biometrics letter. IF it were me, I would call them again, ensure I got transferred to a tier 2 officer (again), and tell them the situation again to ensure I got the same information twice. Asking them for a receipt number in general will likely just lead them to give you the one off your extension letter because it requires the least amount of effort on their part. Confidently saying, "I need the second receipt number, the one that is listed on the bottom right of my biometrics appointment notice, NOT *quote the one you already have here*" might get you a better result. I recall one person a couple of years ago who called USCIS three or four different times with this issue and was finally able to get a tier 2 to actually fax her a copy of her biometrics notice, which, lo and behold, had the needed tracking number.

Posted
34 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

With all due respect, this is utter rubbish.

There aren't specific resources allocated for I-751 matters. The call centre is there for ALL USCIS matters, and there is a queuing system for the specified number of tier 2 officers who are available to take any queries from anyone, which is why the call back time is quite often several hours or more. It isn't like the I-751 adjudicators are being pulled from their desks to help take calls to the mis-information line, of officers are being pulled from airport desks in order to do call backs!

 

Perhaps if USCIS was a) efficient b) modernised c) well trained d) consistent e) truthful) f) transparent, and loads more stuff I really can't be bothered to list right now, then people wouldn't be freaking out in the first place or have any NEED to contact them.

Perhaps if communication and policy was clear so that people didn't think their status expires after their extension letter, then they wouldn't need to call or go to an infopass. 

Perhaps if  a second extension was automatically mailed out after the first year, having to get these stupid stamps wouldn't be an issue either.

Perhaps if they updated the online case status to show EVERYTHING relevant when their is new action (mine still shows 'On May xx, 2015, we received your Form CRI-89, Petition to Remove Conditions of Permanent Resident Status Received, Receipt Number EACxxxxxxxxxx, and sent you the receipt notice that describes how we will process your case. Please follow the instructions in the notice. If you do not receive your receipt notice by June 6, 2015, please call Customer Service at 1-800-375-5283. If you move, go to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.") then perhaps people wouldn't be chasing it up.

 

 

Unfortunately the situation is what it is, but you can't then turn around and blame the people who are PAYING for this service, who then simply want to know what the hell is going on with what is quite a major factor in their lives, when they have been told nothing.

 

 

 

 

/rant

LOL @ "Utter Rubbish"

 

I'm not referring to I-751 cases only.  I'm talking about all types of cases and petitions with USCIS and NVC.  There are people who needlessly call for a status EVERY SINGLE  DAY tying up limited phone lines, and people who have actual real questions have to wait on hold for 3 hours because SuzyQ is freaking out, only to be told that it's "pending".  1 day after that it's still "pending".  1 day after that "it's pending".  Yes, it would be normal to want to inquire after 6 months to see if there has been an update on your case, even though they send an email when a case has been approved.

 

I understand that people always want things now and that's how it is, and I also know that asking people to use common sense and think of others probably is Utter Rubbish.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hong Kong
Timeline
Posted

I have heard some people who applies form N400 got the same issue. Call USCIS and they will fix it for you. 

I believe this is called administrative error.

N-400 Naturalization Journey SAN FRANCISCO FIELD OFFICE

Total processing time from last successful submission to Oath Ceremony: 253 days (8 months and 11 days)

Spoiler

02/26/2012: Arrived SF airport. 

11/28/2016: Eligible for early-filling.

Day 00 - 12/23/2016: Sent N-400 + I-942 to Phoenix, AZ lockbox via USPS.

Day 03 - 12/26/2016: N-400 application marked delivered.

Day 25 - 01/17/2017: Sent email to support regards to application.

Day 26 - 01/18/2017: N-400 rejected because incorrect payment amount.

Day 32 - 01/24/2017: N-400 + I-942 resent.

Day 34 - 01/26/2017: N-400 application marked delivered.

Day 49 - 02/10/2017: N-400 rejected again because incorrect payment amount.

Day 52 - 02/13/2017: Email form USCIS support responded package was rejected in error (!?) for the first and second time submissions, they requested 3rd resubmission + tracking number in order to apply my earliest priority date. 

Day 52 - 02/13/2017: N-400 + I-942 resent on the same day, also sent a response to Lockbox to provide information to USCIS.

Day 54 (Day 0) - 02/15/2017: N-400 application marked delivered.

Day 62 (Day 8) - 02/23/2017: E-notification, E-mail from USCIS, E-mail from Support announced Resubmission was accepted.

Day 66 (Day 12)- 02/27/2017: Notice of Acceptance as Fees Waiver Approval received. (All fees were waived instead of reduced by half as supposed by filing form I-942)

Day 69 (Day 15) - 03/02/2017: Online Status Update: Fingerprint Appointment was scheduled. 

Day 70  (Day 16) - 03/03/2017: Fingerprint Appointment Letter received. Biometric will be on 3/15/17. 

Day 70  (Day 16) - 03/03/2017: Early Walked-In for Biometric at 3:45 PM.

Day 87 (Day 33) - 03/20/2017: Online Status Update: Case was placed in line for interview. 

Day 234 (Day 180) - 08/14/2017: Online Status Update: Interview has been scheduled.

Day 239 (Day 185) - 08/19/2017: Interview Letter received.

Day 269 (Day 215) - 09/18/2017: Interview 2:30 PM at USCIS SF Field Office. Recommended For Approval. 

Day 280 (Day 226) - 09/29/2017: Oath Ceremony Letter received. N400 is approved.

Day 291 (Day 237) - 10/10/2017: Last Online Status Update: Oath Letter was mailed. Too late!

Day 307 (Day 253) - 10/26/2017: Oath Ceremony in Oakland, CA. Citizenship granted.

Day 307 (Day 253) - 10/26/2017: Passport applied.

Day 321 (Day 267) - 11/09/2017: Passport Booklet received. 

Day 321 (Day 267) - 11/09/2017: Naturalization Certificate received. Journey done.

 
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