March of white supremacists at university of Virginia ends in skirmishes

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Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

I think there were more actual journalists there than protesters on either side. It was a slow news weekend and they couldn't keep beating the NK drum that long. 

Mostly "Trump is worse than Kim Jong Un" tantrums. 

[Dianalorena 1,153]

4 minutes ago, eieio said:

One time is better than none. 

 

The whole event is just a big cluster.  I suspect most of those killed or injured were not involved in the violence. If you watch these events it seems there are more people there to film or just see what is going on.

I've seen the videos/pictures and I'm utterly horrified.

As you stated, they didn't seem to be involved in any violent acts and the car caught them off guard. 

it scares me how much this could continue to escalate. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Just now, IAMX said:

Mostly "Trump is worse than Kim Jong Un" tantrums. 

That's why I can barely even watch "This Week Tonight" this season. It's almost all about how Trump is this or that and hardly funny at all. I have friends of mine who are actually astonished that I watch Bill Maher religiously and actually trying to get tickets to his show. He is very Pro-2nd Amendment and actually funny.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 minute ago, Dianalorena said:

I've seen the videos/pictures and I'm utterly horrified.

As you stated, they didn't seem to be involved in any violent acts and the car caught them off guard. 

it scares me how much this could continue to escalate. 

That is what scares me as well honestly. Because it's all about one upping the last protest or incident. I just hope that it does not escalate like it could and multiple people die on either side due to BS point they are trying to promote. 

[eieio 1,594]

1 minute ago, Dianalorena said:

I've seen the videos/pictures and I'm utterly horrified.

As you stated, they didn't seem to be involved in any violent acts and the car caught them off guard. 

it scares me how much this could continue to escalate. 

You are not alone.  

 

It could end up much worse. The media is trying to fuel the fire. 

[Jacque67 7,328]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-protests-white-nationalists.html

 

virginia governor says the Nazis in charlotsville were able to amass an army of weapons superior to the police.

 

white guys in camouflage with guns at a rally.

 

the FBI will have fun with this. Thernovith and JackieP running scared on Twitter trying to change uniforms...hahaha!

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 minute ago, Jacque67 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-protests-white-nationalists.html

 

virginia governor says the Nazis in charlotsville were able to amass an army of weapons superior to the police.

 

white guys in camouflage with guns at a rally.

 

the FBI will have fun with this. Thernovith and JackieP running scared on Twitter trying to change uniforms...hahaha!

You know in a fair number of states in the South it is very much ok to open carry a loaded weapon right? I have done it many times in NC with my pistol.

 

What firearms does he consider superior to the police or is this another anti-gun grab? The majority of them are the exact same AR-15's except that the police have automatic ones while Joe Blow civilian does not. 

Edited August 14, 2017 by cyberfx1024

[Dianalorena 1,153]

15 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

I think it is always a bad thing when there is violence and people get hurt or killed. I don't like that at all because I am thinking that the person had a family and now they are mourning. 

 

He never said at all that he hates Blacks, Latinos, or Muslims and I hate how people keep spewing that BS and yes it is BS. Just because someone speaks their mind on a subject about why a particular country tries to send all their criminals Northbound, then he is considered a racist. That is BS to me and it is to several friends of mine who actively support him who happen to be Black, Latino, and people of Mexican descent. 

 

I don't like how people like ANTIFA and the BLM actively comes out to try and coerce violence from counter-protests inorder to shut the free speech of an even down. That right there is the complete opposite of why groups like ANTIFA say they are protesting but they are acting like fascists themselves. There is NO correlation between Trump and these protests. 

 

As I said, I'm not saying he ever said those words. But he is being followed by people who do.  Not condoning white supremacists just continues to feed the perception that he doesn't recognize his indirect involvement in it, and people using his name to promote hate, don't concern him. I'd say it again: it's what a lot of us perceive. I am not selling it as fact, or the truth. 

How can you say there is no correlation? They are his supporters. Some of these groups are choosing his words and twisting them to fit their agendas. I am not blaming Trump for the protest, I am not even saying that he wants this to happen, but by not realizing that a lot of the things he says to make ''America Great Again'' can and are causing harm, followed by not properly condoning these acts, is negligent and irresponsible at best.  

 

Edited August 14, 2017 by Dianalorena

[Jacque67 7,328]

It is indeed repugnant when hate-driven fatal violence is downplayed and some try to equate swastika-bearing, torch-wielding Nazis with those people standing up to their toxic ideology... Trump's America.

 

Golf!

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12 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

I don't like how people like ANTIFA and the BLM actively comes out to try and coerce violence from counter-protests inorder to shut the free speech of an even down. That right there is the complete opposite of why groups like ANTIFA say they are protesting but they are acting like fascists themselves. There is NO correlation between Trump and these protests. 

Truth 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

7 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

It is indeed repugnant when hate-driven fatal violence is downplayed and some try to equate swastika-bearing, torch-wielding Nazis with those people standing up to their toxic ideology... Trump's America.

 

Golf!

Well to me they are the same thing in my mind. Like I said before one group hates me for selling out and marrying outside my race while the group hates me for being a free thinking Conservative 

[Jacque67 7,328]

Hard to see from afar, but intensely visible on the ground, were the different shades of right-wing extremist. They included new racist organizations and personalities like social media personality Baked Alaska, Spencer, and Identity Evropa, a white supremacist group that argues for pure European heritage, alongside more old-school hate groups like the Traditionalist Workers’ Party, affiliated with the KKK, and the National Socialist Movement, a neo-Nazi organization that held its ornate banner, which clearly evokes a Swastika, aloft throughout the day. Fields was marching with Vanguard America, a small white nationalist organization, wearing the group’s uniform and carrying its shield.

A few of the counter-protesters — namely members of a group called Redneck Revolt — were armed with shotguns, assault rifles, and pistols.

But there were many more guns on the right, many carried by a group called the Three Percenters, a heavily armed “patriot” militia group that’s acted as security at other alt-right rallies in Portland and elsewhere. The group’s views align more with Libertarianism — fundamentalist interpretations of the Constitution and an emphasis on personal liberty — than with the alt-right.

Those groups, evidently aware of the real danger, appeared to keep members of each side separate from the other in certain areas. Three Percenters stood on one side of Emancipation Park, Redneck Revolters a few blocks away at a different park.

Three Percenters said in an official statement after the rally that they disowned the racist groups at Unite the Right and issued a stand down order during the rally. But they also served as a kind of armed guard for their leaders: after police forced the white nationalists out of Emancipation Park, Three Percenters formed a protective barrier around alt-right blogger Mike Enoch and Spencer. Enoch appeared to have been pepper sprayed.

 

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The area of most intense conflict was on the steps into Emancipation Park. Each side squared off against the other in a schoolyard turf war. At around 11 o’clock, counter-demonstrators deployed a large sign made from plywood spray painted with “alt-right scum your time has come” and a decapitated Pepe the Frog. It doubled as a barrier and quickly became a prize, with each side fighting to gain control of it. Eventually it fell, right wingers stomped on it, and people continued fighting.

Each side also threw dozens of water bottles at the other. It was the preferred projectile of the day, along with rocks, tomatoes, broken flag poles, and balloons filled with paint, one of which splattered a police car.

Right wing extremists carried a variety of different flags — the libertarian “Don’t Tread On Me” with the familiar sliced-up snake, flags with symbols of the racist neo-pagan cause Odinism, Confederate flags, Blue Lives Matter flags, Kekistan flags, and others. Counter demonstrators made a game of stealing the banners, though right-wingers would beat them with the shorn flag poles.

The weapon of choice — for the police, right wing fighters, antifa alike — was pepper spray. Police used the most, blasting it from large canisters at protesters. None of the fights that broke out lasted very long because one side or the other would use pepper spray to rescue their combatants.

Around noon, both state and local police declared Unite the Right and the demonstrations in the surrounding streets an unlawful assembly. They evicted everyone from Emancipation Park by a police line. Right-wing extremists and white nationalists fought the police, which is highly unusual. (At previous rallies in Berkeley and Portland, the alt-right has complied with police direction and sought permits for their gatherings, which has helped them maintain the stance that they are acting in self-defense when things get violent. The permits, in particular, ensure that their left-wing antagonists, often antifa in Black Bloc formation, end up on wrong side of a police riot shield.)

 

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In Charlottesville, though, white nationalists, including Spencer, leaned against police’s riot shields in a desperate attempt to keep their place. Police pushed them along the entire length of the park and down the stone steps into a waiting, screaming crowd.

While police were removing people from the park, counter demonstrators had a chance to storm one side of it as right wingers retreated. There were mixed messages among right wingers, some of whom said to fall back and some of whom wanted to hold their ground despite police warnings.

One young white man carrying the black and white flag of Odinism started brawling with counter protesters even as his own comrades retreated.

“Let’s get this race war started! Shoot me!” he yelled.

Instead, a counter demonstrator stole his flag and tried to escape over a police fence. The man with the Odinist flag followed the protester, grabbed his backpack, and smashed his head into the metal barricade.

After police vacated the park by force, both sets of protesters splintered. BuzzFeed News followed a group of white nationalists and Black Lives Matter activists who engaged in a brutal brawl involving metal poles in a parking garage adjacent to the Charlottesville police station. One of the victims, De’Andre Harris, said he was yelling curses at white nationalists and was wearing a white scarf with curses about the Klan. They chased, caught, and beat him with wooden poles and punches.

[Jacque67 7,328]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomery/heres-what-really-happened-in-charlottesville

 

nazis are a bunch of losers.

the modern ones can't even get a date.

economic anxiety .

 

[Jacque67 7,328]

Nut jobs will say the police need more arms.

trump's America!

[Jacque67 7,328]

https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/13/godaddy-tells-white-supremacist-site-daily-stormer-to-find-a-new-domain-provide

Sad