Wife on Green Card & 4 Months Pregnant?

[kimfrombabylon 17]

4 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

Well, I guess you are the know-all, tell-all authority on everything then?  Others are trying to help as am I.  I will admit that I resent that my taxes might be paying for someone else who did not follow the law and get insurance.  I think I have the right to be upset about that.  I do, however only wish the best for this couple and their soon to be born child.  I have offered many suggestions as well as have many others trying to help this couple out.  I think someone needs to take a chill pill.

Yeah, I think that's you. You have no idea why this couple hasn't got insurance and you've managed to talk about "resenting" their situation (as if it's your place) and "that's just me" and really it's none of your business. How can you be so self-centered when a couple asks a question about having a baby? Do you really have so much time on your hands that you can sit here and judge people for circumstances you know nothing about? That's so crass. You should be ashamed. 

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2 hours ago, kimfrombabylon said:

Yeah, I think that's you. You have no idea why this couple hasn't got insurance and you've managed to talk about "resenting" their situation (as if it's your place) and "that's just me" and really it's none of your business. How can you be so self-centered when a couple asks a question about having a baby? Do you really have so much time on your hands that you can sit here and judge people for circumstances you know nothing about? That's so crass. You should be ashamed. 

yes.

in this day and age children are a choice and if a couple is not ready then they should use the means available to them to prevent the pregnancy from occurring. I do not use the word "ready"  to describe the parents desire to have a child but to describe thier ability to provide for thier child both financially and emotionally.

since the parents decided to have a child without being financially capable of providing for it the burden for that care now falls onto the government programs which are funded by the American people. by this logic my money is being used to care for that child/pregnancy so yes I am being injured by thier choices and I will fully exercise my right to be mad.

 

i dont like being forced into this position but for the good of the child these services need to be used. I am not so cold hearted to deny a suffering child the care it needs.

 

I would recommend contacting county health services and planned parenthood about determining what services you are able to get.

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18 hours ago, jan22 said:

The theory is that, while not usually a medical emergency, it is in the best interest of the US for the child -- who will be a US citizen and eligible for any benefits of a US citizen -- to receive proper prenatal care and be born healthy.

Thanks for replying.

18 hours ago, Transborderwife said:

As already stated, yes in some states she will qualify

Thank you.

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17 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

Perhaps you can get this help and then pay it back later since you obviously are not covering your spouse with health insurance now.  Just remember the promise you made to the American government (that's all of us included) that you would take care of your spouse and I would not have to.    There are often many programs that are not tied to the federal government that offer free or reduced cost medical care for people based on their income.  In Hawaii there are many non-profits that offer this help and I have a feeling many of them are not tied to the federal government or state government in any way.  Meaning you might be able to receive assistance without worry of any repercussions.  Your spouse should be covered under your medical insurance or Obama Care...it is the law.  You will certainly be "fined", oh excuse me "taxed" at the end of the year for not providing insurance coverage to her.  My wife and I just had our first baby girl 5 months ago and I wish both of you and your baby a wonderful experience and life.  God Bless 

Thanks for replying.

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17 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

I'm not disagreeing with you or trying to be argumentative but where did you find this theory of which you speak?  Is there a source that I have not found that indicates that an i864 doesn't apply to pregnancy and the US government will pay for everything when it comes to pregnancy based upon this "theory"?  I am very concerned about this couple and their soon coming baby and I feel that medical care should have started already if it has not.  The pregnant mommy should have been to the doctor for prenatal checkups already.  There are several non-profit agencies in Hawaii that offer free or reduced-cost prenatal care based on ones income that are not linked to the federal or state government.  I have to assume that Texas has agencies such as we do.  I sincerely hope the mommy to be is getting care and continues to get care throughout her pregnancy and afterwards.  

Thanks for replying.

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17 hours ago, Damara said:

https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/overview-immigrants-eligibility-snap-tanf-medicaid-and-chip

 

MEDICAID AND CHIP

As of March 2011, 22 states and the District of Columbia have chosen to provide Medicaid and CHIP to lawfully present immigrant children and pregnant women who meet the Medicaid state residency requirement (figure 3).  Most states cover both children and pregnant women.  Five states (Iowa, Montana, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Virginia) cover only children, while one, Colorado, provides coverage to pregnant women only.[12]

In addition, states can provide prenatal care to immigrant women otherwise ineligible for Medicaid and/or CHIP under the CHIP unborn child option using federal matching funds (Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured 2009, figure 3).[13]  Eligibility for this coverage does not depend on the womans immigration status and is limited to pregnant women only.  As of July 2010, 14 states provide prenatal care, labor, and postpartum care to immigrant women under this option.  Six states (California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin) have chosen both the CHIPRA option for lawfully present immigrant women and the CHIP option for nonqualified immigrants.

Health coverage for immigrants during the five-year ban is limited to children and pregnant women under CHIPRA in most states, but 14 states and the District of Columbia provide state-only-funded health coverage to immigrants other than children and pregnant women (figure 4).  State-only funded health coverage is limited based on age, immigration status, disability, and other criteria.  For example, Washington provides medical assistance to qualified immigrants who are seniors and persons with disabilities and receive state-only cash assistance (NILC 2010b, 2010c).

Sixteen states and the District of Columbia also provide some health coverage to select groups of nonqualified immigrants using state-only funding.  Coverage varies and, in many instances, is limited depending on age, immigrant status, and disability status (NILC 2010b, 2010c).  Most of these states are among the states that also provide state-only health coverage to qualified immigrants.

 

Also the labor and delivery (not prenatal care unless there is a risk with the pregnancy) is considered "Emergency Medicaid" which is not a means tested benefit. 

Thank you so much for sharing this information. Very useful information. Again thank you for taking the time to share this information.

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17 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

Yes, I understand that some states allow immigrants medical benefits but is the person who completed the i864 then required/obligated to pay back any or all of the money later?  I see no mention of the i864 in this.  Like I said, my state of Hawaii has many alternatives to federal or state funding/assistance for medical care.  I would think this would be their best bet.  But that's just me.  I haven't seen any evidence yet that shows that federal or state medical relief does not have to be re-paid at a later date.  One other thing; Would a person be morally obligated to pay back the moneys knowing that they agreed that they would never do this?  I wish them the best.

Thanks for replying

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17 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

Might be me, but I've never seen anyone being asked to repay anything in the USA. Those stories are relatively frequent in Canada (because it can ruin someone), but I've never seen  it reported publicly here. Anyway, of all things my taxes can pay, I'm happy some is used to cover maternal/prenatal care. 

Thank you.

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17 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

And I only wish them the best and a safe, happy pregnancy and delivery.  But I would question why she is not insured.  She has apparently been here for well over a year and by law she should have been signed up for some kind of medical care. This is a requirement under Obama Care.  This is the problem with Obama Care.  Younger people and people that like to take risks are not signing up and guess what that does?  It increases the insurance premiums for those who are signed up and it causes people in situations like the op to ask for government assistance when in theory if the Obama Care program worked should never happen.  And who foots the bill now?  I had my spouse covered under my work health insurance 1 month before she arrived in the US.  But that's just me... 

Thanks for replying.

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17 hours ago, Coco8 said:

 

We are here to answer questions. Not to question what they intend to do. They OP asked if his wife could use medicaid and rather than answer the question, people kept saying "no, you cannot". But everyone was misinformed. I did a quick search in google and found the answer, gave it to OP, and told him to go to Plan Parenthood and get more information. That is it. The end.

 

 

Thank you so much for all the information you shared.

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17 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

Might be me, but I've never seen anyone being asked to repay anything in the USA. Those stories are relatively frequent in Canada (because it can ruin someone), but I've never seen  it reported publicly here. Anyway, of all things my taxes can pay, I'm happy some is used to cover maternal/prenatal care. 

Ask the IRS.. you might not have read about those who came to have anchor baby here and skip the bill and are now been asked to pay up before getting a visa. Asylum seekers pay for their flight ticket after settling here.

Where have you been living that "no one being asked to repay anything in the USA"?

The process might be slow but try IRS and see how quick they will come after you.

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17 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

Well, I guess you are the know-all, tell-all authority on everything then?  Others are trying to help as am I.  I will admit that I resent that my taxes might be paying for someone else who did not follow the law and get insurance.  I think I have the right to be upset about that.  I do, however only wish the best for this couple and their soon to be born child.  I have offered many suggestions as well as have many others trying to help this couple out.  I think someone needs to take a chill pill.

Thanks for answering my questions.

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15 hours ago, lacolinab13 said:

I strongly agree with the recommendation to make an appointment planned parenthood who will know all about the resources available to you. Anecdotally I have heard of green card holders in Texas who got Medicaid for pregnancy and CHIP and did not have any issues as far as I-864. 

 

I've never heard of such a thing as waiting 10 months to see an obstetrician! Rather defeats the purpose doesn't it . I'm sure you will find a doctor who is seeing new patients. 

Thank you for sharing the information. Really helpful.

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15 hours ago, sy1983 said:

In California there is no 5 year ban, any legal immigrant can apply for L.A care and Medi-cal and they will determine your eligibility. 
You can also check with your local hospital, they offer big discounts for people without health insurance. 
Getting a full-time job right now and getting them on your coverage is a good start. 
If you absolutely don't have any other means to pay for health insurance, then I would suggest going back to her home country

and give birth there. When the baby is born, file for CRBA and within a month, your child obtain US citizen and a US passport. 

Thank you for replying

[Umka36 781]

14 hours ago, jan22 said:

No reason to get snarky.

 

The funding mechanism for Medicaid varies from state-to-state and in many states uses more state than federal funding. So, unless you live in Texas where the OP lives, it is unlikely that many of your taxes will be going to this particular case.  In asking questions about Medicaid, this couple is, in fact, trying to follow the law and get insurance.  In states that allow LPRs to enroll in Medicaid, it is not a violation of the I-864 to do so, as it is not a federal means-tested program.

Just want to say that people normally have to get insurance prior to needing it, not after the fact. I wish I could buy a life insurance after I die, but that won't fly.

 

The OP obviously should do what is in their interest for their family's health.