More Than 1.1 Million Fewer Americans on Food Stamps Under Trump

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

3 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I'd often see people trade their food stamps / EBT to someone else in exchange for drugs, whether it be directly or buying the food themselves and exchanging for the drugs outside. No one hid it either. 

 

Stuff seriously needs to be scaled back at minimum due to abuse. 

When I was a kid, the food stamps were paper, not debit card.  Almost every bodega (Hispanic corner store) would buy food stamps for 50¢ on the dollar.  Girls had more kids ONLY to get more food stamps and what they used to call government assistance which was CASH.

 

Now that they have the card, it's not as easy, but my downstairs neighbor takes her friends shopping on her FS card.  She charges the same 50¢ on the dollar.  She asked my wife she if she was interested.  I told my wife not to even think about it.  I will not be part of that corruption.

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

4 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

That's outrageous! You really should've taken advantage of that opportunity to explain to them the benefits of a healthy diet. As a fellow American, I believe you shirked your duties and let the country down. Bad on you man.

They didn't speak English.  Nor Spanish, And I didn't recognize what they spoke.

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

When I was a kid, the food stamps were paper, not debit card.  Almost every bodega (Hispanic corner store) would buy food stamps for 50¢ on the dollar.  Girls had more kids ONLY to get more food stamps and what they used to call government assistance which was CASH.

 

Now that they have the card, it's not as easy, but my downstairs neighbor takes her friends shopping on her FS card.  She charges the same 50¢ on the dollar.  She asked my wife she if she was interested.  I told my wife not to even think about it.  I will not be part of that corruption.

wow, that's just crazy! girls having children for government cash and food stamps? what a lucrative scam that must have been! you might want to grab this fantasy novel on audio book..https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Welfare-Queen-Prize-Winning-Journalists/dp/0684840065

[JimandChristy 1,689]

3 hours ago, IAMX said:

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/08/03/editorial-california-performs-poorly-on-food-stamp-program/

 

A year into Obama's second term food stamps peaked. Well I'll be damned. Must be Bush's fault.

Something called the Great Recession had something to do with it.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

17 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

They didn't speak English.  Nor Spanish, And I didn't recognize what they spoke.

 

tell them to get off of your lawn

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

tell them to get off of your lawn

universal language of yore!

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

29 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

wow, that's just crazy! girls having children for government cash and food stamps? what a lucrative scam that must have been! you might want to grab this fantasy novel on audio book..https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Welfare-Queen-Prize-Winning-Journalists/dp/0684840065

I know your white-privileged, sheltered, suburban life doesn't allow you to comprehend what happens in poor neighborhoods, but give it another shot.

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[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Eric-Pris said:

I know your white-privileged, sheltered, suburban life doesn't allow you to comprehend what happens in poor neighborhoods, but give it another shot.

i can only go by my experience, and i don't know anyone who's reproduced for food stamps or welfare. i'm sort of thrown off by your premise that food stamp/welfare recipients only exist in poor neighborhoods, and also that they are non working/lazy. facts aside, i realize you are only speaking of your own personal assumptions, one's you made in childhood no less. 

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

17 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i'm sort of thrown off by your premise that food stamp/welfare recipients only exist in poor neighborhoods, 

 

i realize you are only speaking of your own personal assumptions, one's you made in childhood no less. 

Ya think there's lots of food stamps being distributed/used in upper-middle to upper class neighborhoods?  LOL

 

I'm speaking from personal experience, not assumptions.  No need to assume, when you witness it all.  I was a teenager, I wasn't 6, and I'm 40 now, so the memory is still solid.  I personally knew 3 young women (we weren't friends or anything but knew them from the neighborhood and everybody knew all their business) that were asking guys to impregnate them and did eventually intentionally become pregnant.  And they had the babies and were happy as hell.  One had a serious drug problem, and lost her 3 kids to child services (ASC) soon after.  Another lived down the block from us, mother of the year, and her kids (like 5-6 year olds) would be outside on the street running around at 2am by themselves while she was in the apt upstairs.  Nobody seemed to care much.  These days, somebody would be calling ACS and they would be taken away.  The third disappeared, I'm guessing she moved away.

 

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[Teddy B 17,251]

23 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

I know your white-privileged, sheltered, suburban life doesn't allow you to comprehend what happens in poor neighborhoods, but give it another shot.

Yeah Val, check your white privilege at the door.

 

 

 

 

[bcking 3,157]

8 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

Ya think there's lots of food stamps being distributed/used in upper-middle to upper class neighborhoods?  LOL

 

I'm speaking from personal experience, not assumptions.  No need to assume, when you witness it all.  I was a teenager, I wasn't 6, and I'm 40 now, so the memory is still solid.  I personally knew 3 young women (we weren't friends or anything but knew them from the neighborhood and everybody knew all their business) that were asking guys to impregnate them and did eventually intentionally become pregnant.  And they had the babies and were happy as hell.  One had a serious drug problem, and lost her 3 kids to child services (ASC) soon after.  Another lived down the block from us, mother of the year, and her kids (like 5-6 year olds) would be outside on the street running around at 2am by themselves while she was in the apt upstairs.  Nobody seemed to care much.  These days, somebody would be calling ACS and they would be taken away.  The third disappeared, I'm guessing she moved away.

 

Unfortunately personal experience is not all that useful.

 

While I appreciate your example of 3 random women you happen to have known (but weren't friends with! thanks for the clarification), that doesn't really tell us much.

 

Making judgments from personal experience is fraught with horrible biases. 

 

You've provided us essentially with a "Case Report". It is essentially the lowest level of evidence possible, when you apply scientific rigor.

Edited August 8, 2017 by bcking

[smilesammich 10,727]

5 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

Ya think there's lots of food stamps being distributed/used in upper-middle to upper class neighborhoods?  LOL

 

I'm speaking from personal experience, not assumptions.  No need to assume, when you witness it all.  I was a teenager, I wasn't 6, and I'm 40 now, so the memory is still solid.  I personally knew 3 young women (we weren't friends or anything but knew them from the neighborhood and everybody knew all their business) that were asking guys to impregnate them and did eventually intentionally become pregnant.  And they had the babies and were happy as hell.  One had a serious drug problem, and lost her 3 kids to child services (ASC) soon after.  Another lived down the block from us, mother of the year, and her kids (like 5-6 year olds) would be outside on the street running around at 2am by themselves while she was in the apt upstairs.  Nobody seemed to care much.  These days, somebody would be calling ACS and they would be taken away.  The third disappeared, I'm guessing she moved away.

 

you'd be surprised who's on food stamps, and who might live in a nice house but living check to check renting. i do understand that you're making assumptions based on your personal experience, because as a teenager - you knowing girls were getting pregnant to get welfare just sounds too convenient, since that (and the grocery line) story is basically conservative hate the poor 101. 

but what a lovely story. "happy as hell" ..so i'm gathering not as lucrative a business as one would think, babies for welfare.

[smilesammich 10,727]

6 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Yeah Val, check your white privilege at the door.

 

 

 

 

i just, i can't get past it! the only people i've ever known on food stamps have been white! i'm so conflicted!

[Teddy B 17,251]

14 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

Ya think there's lots of food stamps being distributed/used in upper-middle to upper class neighborhoods?  LOL

 

I'm speaking from personal experience, not assumptions.  No need to assume, when you witness it all.  I was a teenager, I wasn't 6, and I'm 40 now, so the memory is still solid.  I personally knew 3 young women (we weren't friends or anything but knew them from the neighborhood and everybody knew all their business) that were asking guys to impregnate them and did eventually intentionally become pregnant.  And they had the babies and were happy as hell.  One had a serious drug problem, and lost her 3 kids to child services (ASC) soon after.  Another lived down the block from us, mother of the year, and her kids (like 5-6 year olds) would be outside on the street running around at 2am by themselves while she was in the apt upstairs.  Nobody seemed to care much.  These days, somebody would be calling ACS and they would be taken away.  The third disappeared, I'm guessing she moved away.

 

If you "weren't friends or anything" doesn't that diminish the personal experience just a bit? I mean if you weren't friends you didn't really know them personally and are just going on hearsay from other peeps. Maybe the peeps feeding you the info were just disgruntled dudes that had an axe to grind because they weren't chosen to father one of their gov't funded silver spooned babies? Just a hunch.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Teddy B

[smilesammich 10,727]

7 minutes ago, bcking said:

Unfortunately personal experience is not all that useful.

 

While I appreciate your example of 3 random women you happen to have known (but weren't friends with! thanks for the clarification), that doesn't really tell us much.

 

Making judgments from personal experience is fraught with horrible biases. 

 

You've provided us essentially with a "Case Report". It is essentially the lowest level of evidence possible, when you apply scientific rigor.

did you not read the story? everyone knew their business and they (the 'girls') were going around asking people to get them pregnant..and eventually, they got pregnant = very happy. that's biology.