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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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All,

I am sharing my experience and wonder if someone had a similar experience before. Today I am shocked to learn from the state senator that USCIS sent us an RFE 3 months ago which we have never received. Since we learnt that our case was outside the normal processing time frame, we began calling USCIS (at least talking with 5 tier-2 agents) and even made a trip to the field office. However, NOBODY told us that we have an RFE. The USCIS online status is still at the stage of received the case. This is ridiculous! If we haven't contacted the state senator's office, we would have never known the actual reason of the delay. By the way, we haven't moved since we filed the I-751 and have no problem receiving notice for fingerprint appointment.

We're now waiting for the tier 2 officer to call back and wonder what the RFE is :-(

Anyone has similar experience?

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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I am pretty sure we already missed the response time frame. Will they just dismiss/disapprove my case? If this is the case, this is horrible. I've been actively checking the online status and the mail. I also did my due diligence by calling USCIS, scheduling INFOPASS and sending service requests. How come nobody tells us it's due to RFE???

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At least your Senator replied.....mine didn't.

 

 

As for the mis-information, nothing new, as it seems various systems between offices aren't actually accessible, or information isn't made available to everyone within USCIS.

 

I was told just this morning via a tier 2 officer that the letter waiting for me from USCIS that I have no idea what is inside (I can see it on my USPS informed delivery email!), isn't an interview notice, and no evidence of another interview is showing on any system at all, and am I sure this is a new piece of mail?

 

However, the email I got from the Ombudsman (who DO reply) this afternoon, tells me it IS an interview, and even tells me the date and time.

 

Pure comedy

 

 

 

Ombudsman link is here: https://www.dhs.gov/case-assistance

 

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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The senator's letter indicates that the RFE was mailed on May 5th. I started the subscription of USPS informed delivery on May 8th and didn't find any mail from USCIS. Is it possible that the mail was delivered within three days after USCIS said they mailed it?

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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13 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

OP already indicate that they hadn't moved and has successfully received previous notifications by mail.

 

I would suggest lodging a case with the Ombudsman asap. Document all the dates times and actions you have already taken, including calling USCIS and never being informed of the RFE

Will surely do. Thank you for the advice!

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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5 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

At least your Senator replied.....mine didn't.

 

 

As for the mis-information, nothing new, as it seems various systems between offices aren't actually accessible, or information isn't made available to everyone within USCIS.

 

I was told just this morning via a tier 2 officer that the letter waiting for me from USCIS that I have no idea what is inside (I can see it on my USPS informed delivery email!), isn't an interview notice, and no evidence of another interview is showing on any system at all, and am I sure this is a new piece of mail?

 

However, the email I got from the Ombudsman (who DO reply) this afternoon, tells me it IS an interview, and even tells me the date and time.

 

Pure comedy

 

 

 

Ombudsman link is here: https://www.dhs.gov/case-assistance

 

I just looked at your timeline. 28 months for ROC? That's insane! 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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10 minutes ago, Shumai said:

The senator's letter indicates that the RFE was mailed on May 5th. I started the subscription of USPS informed delivery on May 8th and didn't find any mail from USCIS. Is it possible that the mail was delivered within three days after USCIS said they mailed it?

I just looked at the calendar. May 5th is a Friday and the date I started the USPS informed delivery (May 8th) is a Monday. At this point, I am pretty sure USCIS didn't mail the RFE to me at all. May I use the USPS informed delivery report as evidence?

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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At around 8pm, we finally got a call back from a tier-2 agent and she told us the same thing: no RFE in my case.

But since we have the letter from state senator, she put in a service request (the 3rd one in my case; haven't heard anything back from the previous two) and asked us to check back by the end of August.

If there's an RFE, I would like to know what it is the sooner the better.

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9 hours ago, Shumai said:

The senator's letter indicates that the RFE was mailed on May 5th. I started the subscription of USPS informed delivery on May 8th and didn't find any mail from USCIS. Is it possible that the mail was delivered within three days after USCIS said they mailed it?

I worked in the development team for the Informed Delivery (ID) project for the build + nationwide rollout phase. Depending on what time of the day you signed up for ID, it may not have started collecting scanned images for you until the next business day, so it's really 4 (business) days.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted

I think its absolutely ridiculous and absurd that we now have to or should I say want/need too join informed USPS informed delivery so we can track our cases.  I joined because of the stories I read on here and the fact that the USCIS once got my address wrong once and everything was sent back, although they had the correct address on my form.  They really need to start upping their game and stop this circus act! Enough said!

Removal of Conditions..  TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK

 

Time to reset the tick tock clock again.   Roll my eyes.

 

GC  Conditional date:  05/26/2015

N400.  Application:      02/28/2018       

Biometrics:                    02/22/2018

 

Waiting............    Roll my eyes again :(

 

USA citizen as of 25th of July 2018. :)

Posted
17 hours ago, Shumai said:

All,

I am sharing my experience and wonder if someone had a similar experience before. Today I am shocked to learn from the state senator that USCIS sent us an RFE 3 months ago which we have never received. Since we learnt that our case was outside the normal processing time frame, we began calling USCIS (at least talking with 5 tier-2 agents) and even made a trip to the field office. However, NOBODY told us that we have an RFE. The USCIS online status is still at the stage of received the case. This is ridiculous! If we haven't contacted the state senator's office, we would have never known the actual reason of the delay. By the way, we haven't moved since we filed the I-751 and have no problem receiving notice for fingerprint appointment.

We're now waiting for the tier 2 officer to call back and wonder what the RFE is :-(

Anyone has similar experience?

Hi this is my mom experience.

My mom had many problems with the mail, starting that I never got NOA, she had to make an appointment infopass for the  i551 stamp in the passport (JULY 30 2015), then in February 2016 they had sent RFE, she never got the RFE. She to call to talk to second level officers, To forward the request for evidence, my mother had to go for a second i551 stamp in the passport, on July 6, 2017, and the officer who assisted her advised her to open  a po box, and there were no more problems with the mail, the notice of action that received the request for evidence arrived at the po box, then the notice of  approval of the residence card, and finally arrived at the po box the residence card for 10 years.  My mom's process took 21 months.  

I forgot, she contacted the senator, she never got an answer from anything.

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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21 hours ago, Shumai said:

All,

I am sharing my experience and wonder if someone had a similar experience before. Today I am shocked to learn from the state senator that USCIS sent us an RFE 3 months ago which we have never received. Since we learnt that our case was outside the normal processing time frame, we began calling USCIS (at least talking with 5 tier-2 agents) and even made a trip to the field office. However, NOBODY told us that we have an RFE. The USCIS online status is still at the stage of received the case. This is ridiculous! If we haven't contacted the state senator's office, we would have never known the actual reason of the delay. By the way, we haven't moved since we filed the I-751 and have no problem receiving notice for fingerprint appointment.

We're now waiting for the tier 2 officer to call back and wonder what the RFE is :-(

Anyone has similar experience?

Oh my! I saw your name on the post and jumped...it's been a while! I was wondering if you'd gotten approved already..

 

I think from some other posts i've read, RFE seems to have up to 90 days to respond. And if USCIS treats it as a no-response therefore ground for denial they'd usually update your online status as well. See this post here back in 2013: 

USCIS has made similar mistakes before, and I haven't seen anyone saying that they can just refile once it's past the required response period. Once it's denied, the case is closed. You might want to prepare for speaking to an attorney---you may need to file a motion with the immigration court (not sure if this is what the court is called) to have the case reopened.

 

This is unacceptable.. but then again, this administration is not favoring us immigrants.

 

 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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12 hours ago, jj33065 said:

Hi this is my mom experience.

My mom had many problems with the mail, starting that I never got NOA, she had to make an appointment infopass for the  i551 stamp in the passport (JULY 30 2015), then in February 2016 they had sent RFE, she never got the RFE. She to call to talk to second level officers, To forward the request for evidence, my mother had to go for a second i551 stamp in the passport, on July 6, 2017, and the officer who assisted her advised her to open  a po box, and there were no more problems with the mail, the notice of action that received the request for evidence arrived at the po box, then the notice of  approval of the residence card, and finally arrived at the po box the residence card for 10 years.  My mom's process took 21 months.  

I forgot, she contacted the senator, she never got an answer from anything.

Thank you for sharing your mom's experience! Do you remember if her case was denied by USCIS when no response was mailed in 90 days?

 
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