K1 AOS - DS-3025 flu vaccine

[Rose_3001 23]

Hi,

 

Apologies to be yet another person asking about the vaccination requirement for AOS on a K1 visa. I've trawled through the threads and can't find a specific answer, but if it has already been answered then please direct me to the right place.

 

I had my medical in London in March 2017. I decided not to get the flu jab at the time, and was able to complete my medical without it, being told that I may need to get it when I come to the US for AOS. 

 

My vaccination form has 'K1' written in the Influenza row. Every other vaccine is filled out "correctly" as per these VJ guidelines - 

Nothing is ticked in the 'summary for immigrant visa applicants' box, but I've heard this is normal for K1ers going through London.

 

In that same thread, there is a note about the flu vaccine not necessarily being required, dependent on whether or not the case is picked up during flu season. If I submit the application without going to a civil surgeon for an I-693, as I understand it I am risking being asked for an RFE, especially as it is now August and the case may not be picked up for several months, by which time is will be flu season.

 

So say that I decide to get the flu vaccine to increase my chances of a smooth AOS, does this need to be administered by a civil surgeon? Can I go elsewhere to get the vaccine, and then take 'proof' to the civil surgeon who can transcribe this, along with other vaccines, onto the I-693? And is the DS-3025 enough evidence of vaccination history, since it was based off official records, or do I need to bring original vaccine records from the UK to a civil surgeon appointment for transcribing?

 

Many thanks in advance.

[Scandi 4,180]

All you need to check is if your DS-3025 is marked "complete". It if it then you're good to go, nevermind a missing flu shot.

 

Also, flu season is determined on what date you had your medical, not the date you file for AOS or the date they look into your case.

Edited August 7, 2017 by Scandi

[Rose_3001 23]

8 minutes ago, Scandi said:

All you need to check is if your DS-3025 is marked "complete". It if it then you're good to go, nevermind a missing flu shot.

Hi,

 

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately it's not marked 'complete' - it's not marked as anything in the 'summary for visa applicants' box, neither complete nor incomplete. According to these forums this is a common thing for K1ers who have their medical completed in London...

[Coco8 1,042]

The flu vaccine is seasonal. There are dates on which it is available and you have to receive it. If you want to get it out of season you cannot because it is not even available, plus it is not recommended. 

[Scandi 4,180]

I wouldn't worry about the flu shot if I were you. I also wouldn't spend money on a panel physician if it's not even needed. I would send a copy of the DS-3025 and wait.

[Rose_3001 23]

12 minutes ago, Coco8 said:

The flu vaccine is seasonal. There are dates on which it is available and you have to receive it. If you want to get it out of season you cannot because it is not even available, plus it is not recommended. 

Hi - thanks, I was wondering about this too. I know it's the case in the UK but wasn't sure if it was the same here in the US.

 

So this means that I couldn't get the flu vaccine now - therefore I'll have to just submit the AOS paperwork with the DS-3025 as it is, and hope I don't get an RFE? Elsewhere I've read not to bother submitting it at all if it's not complete...

[Coco8 1,042]

1 minute ago, Rose_3001 said:

Hi - thanks, I was wondering about this too. I know it's the case in the UK but wasn't sure if it was the same here in the US.

 

So this means that I couldn't get the flu vaccine now - therefore I'll have to just submit the AOS paperwork with the DS-3025 as it is, and hope I don't get an RFE? Elsewhere I've read not to bother submitting it at all if it's not complete...

Yes, flu shots are not currently available in the US either. Like 2 years ago I wanted to get one because I was traveling to the Southern Hemisphere and they told me they don't even have them on stock. It seems they also don't last long so they return them once the season is over.

[Wuozopo 4,293]

2 hours ago, Scandi said:

Also, flu season is determined on what date you had your medical, not the date you file for AOS or the date they look into your case.

I disagree with the above statement. It is stated in the USCIS manual that on the day they adjudicate if something does not apply, then it doesn't matter if it applied on the medical date. They give the example of an 18 yr old who did not get Hep shot and ages out.  His interview or adjudication rolls around when he has turned 19 yrs old. A 19 yr old does not require require Hep B. Therefore the applicant does not need one. Their other example is seasonal vaccines. If it is not flu season on that day, then nobody has to prove a flu vaccination no matter what the requirements were on their medical date. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Rose_3001 said:

So this means that I couldn't get the flu vaccine now - therefore I'll have to just submit the AOS paperwork with the DS-3025 as it is, and hope I don't get an RFE? Elsewhere I've read not to bother submitting it at all if it's not complete...

The DS-3025 photocopy you have is nothing official. The original is in your file. Sending it in is simply a visual reminder that you got shots so maybe they should evaluate them as their manual says, even if it is filled out incorrectly in the results. 

 

It will simply be up to luck whether your adjudicator has read his manual or not. He may just look at nothing marked and say go to a civil surgeon. He may see you actually have the shots marked and say fine. And it will be up to luck whether your case is up for review after March 31 when flu season ends again. If it doesn't work out, then simply go spend money at that time. Don't fear an RFE as simple as "go get a flu shot".

[Rose_3001 23]

17 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

I disagree with the above statement. It is stated in the USCIS manual that on the day they adjudicate if something does not apply, then it doesn't matter if it applied on the medical date. They give the example of an 18 yr old who did not get Hep shot and ages out.  His interview or adjudication rolls around when he has turned 19 yrs old. A 19 yr old does not require require Hep B. Therefore the applicant does not need one. Their other example is seasonal vaccines. If it is not flu season on that day, then nobody has to prove a flu vaccination no matter what the requirements were on their medical date. 

 

 

The DS-3025 photocopy you have is nothing official. The original is in your file. Sending it in is simply a visual reminder that you got shots so maybe they should evaluate them as their manual says, even if it is filled out incorrectly in the results. 

 

It will simply be up to luck whether your adjudicator has read his manual or not. He may just look at nothing marked and say go to a civil surgeon. He may see you actually have the shots marked and say fine. And it will be up to luck whether your case is up for review after March 31 when flu season ends again. If it doesn't work out, then simply go spend money at that time. Don't fear an RFE as simple as "go get a flu shot".

 

Thanks for the reassurance - fingers crossed it goes smoothly, there seems to be so much luck involved with this process. RFEs sound very intimidating, but having to go and get a flu shot isn't the end of the world!

[Wuozopo 4,293]

3 hours ago, Rose_3001 said:

 

Thanks for the reassurance - fingers crossed it goes smoothly, there seems to be so much luck involved with this process. RFEs sound very intimidating, but having to go and get a flu shot isn't the end of the world!

 

An RFE doesn't have to be intimidating. It simply means they need some piece of the puzzle before they can finish your case.  As far as luck...that's life in general really. Finding the fasting moving lane at the grocery store. Getting through to you destination without catching a red light. Small miracles when it happens. Annoying when it's the opposite. 

 

 

[yuna628 9,702]

OP: Did you receive a second page to the DS3025 which should have some language stating complete for immigration purposes? Yes they won't tick the box, but for at least a year or two ago they started giving people a page two with that statement - that is when they could be bothered to remember doing so. Some people actually emailed and specifically asked them for page 2 if they were missing it.

 

If you should get an RFE for the vaccination record, it will unlikely be regarding the flu shot... but for a variety of other silly reasons I won't get into here. At any case if it should happen, rest assured it can be correctly quickly and easily, with some legwork and dollars.. nothing too terrible.  

Edited August 8, 2017 by yuna628