Jump to content

35 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

This was published about 4.5 years ago, but it just shows the cluelessness of the left wing mainstream media.  Venezuela was already a mess even in 2013 to anyone that actually studied it, but Democratic Socialism is grand!

 

Wednesday, Mar 6, 2013 11:30 AM EST

 

David Sirota

 

For the last decade in American politics, Hugo Chavez became a potent political weapon – within a few years of his ascent, he was transformed from just a leader of a neighboring nation into a boogeyman synonymous with extremism. Regularly invoked in over-the-top political rhetoric, Chavez’s name became a decontextualized epithet to try to attach to a political opponent so as to make that opponent look like a radical. Because of this, America barely flinched upon hearing the news that the Bush administration tried to orchestrate a coup against the democratically elected Venezuelan leader.

 

Just to get it out of the way, I’ll state the obvious: with respect to many policies, Chavez was no saint. He, for instance, amassed a troubling record when it came to protecting human rights and basic democratic freedoms (though as Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic and Policy notes, “Venezuela is recognized by many scholars to be more democratic than it was in the pre-Chávez era”). His rein also coincided with a boom in violent crime.

That said, these serious problems, while certainly worthy of harsh criticism, were not the primary reason Chavez became the favorite effigy of American politicians and pundits. In an age marked by America’s drone assaults, civil liberties abuses, and war on voting, it is not as if this nation’s political establishment sees an assault on democratic freedoms as deplorable. Likewise, that same political establishment is more than friendly with leaders of countries like Mexico and Colombia – countries which are also periodically hotbeds of violent crime.

 

No, Chavez became the bugaboo of American politics because his full-throated advocacy of socialism and redistributionism at once represented a fundamental critique of neoliberal economics, and also delivered some indisputably positive results. Indeed, as shown by some of the most significant indicators, Chavez racked up an economic record that a legacy-obsessed American president could only dream of achieving.

 

For instance, according to data compiled by the UK Guardian, Chavez’s first decade in office saw Venezuelan GDP more than double and both infant mortality and unemployment almost halved. Then there is a remarkable graph from the World Bank that shows that under Chavez’s brand of socialism, poverty in Venezuela plummeted (the Guardian reports that its “extreme poverty” rate fell from 23.4 percent in 1999 to 8.5 percent just a decade later). In all, that left the country with the third lowest poverty rate in Latin America. Additionally, as Weisbrot points out, “college enrollment has more than doubled, millions of people have access to health care for the first time and the number of people eligible for public pensions has quadrupled.”

When a country goes socialist and it craters, it is laughed off as a harmless and forgettable cautionary tale about the perils of command economics. When, by contrast, a country goes socialist and its economy does what Venezuela’s did, it is not perceived to be a laughing matter – and it is not so easy to write off or to ignore. It suddenly looks like a threat to the corporate capitalism, especially when said country has valuable oil resources that global powerhouses like the United States rely on.

 

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted
1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

i'm sure someone will blame the rich/capitalism/not high enough taxes.

They will say there needs to be a wall to keep the rich people in.  I think NYC is doing something similar where they are proposing to raise the taxes of the rich to pay for the crumbling mass transit system.

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Country:
Timeline
Posted
1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

They will say there needs to be a wall to keep the rich people in.  I think NYC is doing something similar where they are proposing to raise the taxes of the rich to pay for the crumbling mass transit system.

Can only wonder how much raising taxes on the rich is gonna work.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

Aren't there already a lot of well off people leaving the city?  Eventually, the rich there will be the middle class.

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Posted
1 minute ago, Teddy B said:

VJ should start it's own CEHST sub-forum just for Venezuela. I think some peeps here secretly have the hots Hugo Chavez, even if he is dead.

seriously. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted
11 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

VJ should start it's own CEHST sub-forum just for Venezuela. I think some peeps here secretly have the hots Hugo Chavez, even if he is dead.

Just trying to add balance to the forum.  I thought the MDL was all about fairness and balance?

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Posted
Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Just trying to add balance to the forum.  I thought the MDL was all about fairness and balance?

doesn't come across that way, looks more like trump supporters are trying to keep the attention on anything other than the cnn watching lazy lump that is trump.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Just trying to add balance to the forum.  I thought the MDL was all about fairness and balance?

You'd have to ask the MDL that question, but us middle of the road guys have noticed a very heavy slant in threads about Venezuela from the MDR in this forum.

Posted
3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

doesn't come across that way, looks more like trump supporters are trying to keep the attention on anything other than the cnn watching lazy lump that is trump.

It's love, anything else would be an obsession.

 

Looks like the VJ Chavez fan club even has their own line of clothing.

 

 

i_love_hugo_chavez_trucker_hat.jpg?color

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted
4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

doesn't come across that way, looks more like trump supporters are trying to keep the attention on anything other than the cnn watching lazy lump that is trump.

I could care less what Trump is doing as long as he is not violating the constitution, and appointing conservative judges.  If the GDP gets into the 3% range, even better, but as with and president, they have little impact in the economy.  Personally, I see way too many young people that believe this DS stuff, just want to make sure the failures are also revealed.

3 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

You'd have to ask the MDL that question, but us middle of the road guys have noticed a very heavy slant in threads about Venezuela from the MDR in this forum.

Doesn't everyone claim MOR status?

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Posted
Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I could care less what Trump is doing as long as he is not violating the constitution, and appointing conservative judges.  If the GDP gets into the 3% range, even better, but as with and president, they have little impact in the economy.  Personally, I see way too many young people that believe this DS stuff, just want to make sure the failures are also revealed.

i don't think you're going to get very far, attempting to equate bernie sanders with hugo chavez. but by all means, free country..post away

Posted
2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I could care less what Trump is doing as long as he is not violating the constitution, and appointing conservative judges.  If the GDP gets into the 3% range, even better, but as with and president, they have little impact in the economy.  Personally, I see way too many young people that believe this DS stuff, just want to make sure the failures are also revealed.

Doesn't everyone claim MOR status?

No.

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...