K2 parental permission question

[Hornswoggled 17]

Expecting to do a K1 & K2 visa application soon. I'm a US citizen (residing in the US now), and my beneficiaries are in Thailand. Regarding the K2 visa for my fiance's daughter, I have a couple questions. I know I read somewhere a general statement that the other parent (fiance's ex) must give permission for children to travel/emigrate to the USA. I also saw a specific age mentioned of this being required for those under age 21.

 

1) Is there a specific form that this must be done on? If not, where can I find info on how this permission must be stated?

2) At what point in the application process would the permission form be submitted?

3) In Thailand, the age of majority is 20. Would this have any effect on whether she would need permission? Daughter is soon to be 19, and we could possibly delay her visa app until she turns 20 if we thought it would be beneficial. (Her father may try to hold things up or hold out for a ransom otherwise.)

 

Thanks!

[Ontarkie 14,221]

You will have to check the laws there. For us in Canada the age for needing consent was 18. I actually had a court order granting permission to take my kids.

 

The permission letter just needs to say something like. 

 

I (father's name), consent to (mother's name) to permanently move with (daughter's name) to the USA. 

 

 

Sign, date, and get it notarized. 

 

 

How does custody work there? Does the mother have sole custody? I know some countries when the mother has sole custody they don't need the father's consent. 

That should be something else to look into. 

 

 

I'm going to move your thread to the Regional forum because it will help get country specific answers. 

 

 

 

[Ontarkie 14,221]

~~Moved to the Thailand Regional forum, from K1 P&P - As the OP's is asking about parental consent and that varies from Country to Country.~~

[Ning 619]

2 hours ago, Hornswoggled said:

Expecting to do a K1 & K2 visa application soon. I'm a US citizen (residing in the US now), and my beneficiaries are in Thailand. Regarding the K2 visa for my fiance's daughter, I have a couple questions. I know I read somewhere a general statement that the other parent (fiance's ex) must give permission for children to travel/emigrate to the USA. I also saw a specific age mentioned of this being required for those under age 21.

 

1) Is there a specific form that this must be done on? If not, where can I find info on how this permission must be stated?

2) At what point in the application process would the permission form be submitted?

3) In Thailand, the age of majority is 20. Would this have any effect on whether she would need permission? Daughter is soon to be 19, and we could possibly delay her visa app until she turns 20 if we thought it would be beneficial. (Her father may try to hold things up or hold out for a ransom otherwise.)

 

Thanks!

No but you can ask the embassy for a sample letter. Its very simple really that anyone could construct. It should say the father allows the child to emigrate to the USA. These are done thru a ' notary ' but they are to be seen as a lawyer would be here. Beware as you look for one. 

Visa timeline for 21 or over can be years so best to get this done. 

1 No but you can request sample from embassy. Its just the father allowing the child to emigrate to the USA. Lawyer preps. Dad signs. 

2 During P 3 

3 Thai law has nothing to do with this. 

Thai men often will attempt to extort the farang. This is done thru a 3rd party. If your wife isn't familiar with this it can get difficult & consume a lot of time. I have also seen cases go very well but its a negotiation most of the time I think. One father recent changed his mind after a long fight & signed because he said he realized his daughter would become better educated ect. 

[Ning 619]

12 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

You will have to check the laws there. For us in Canada the age for needing consent was 18. I actually had a court order granting permission to take my kids.

 

The permission letter just needs to say something like. 

 

I (father's name), consent to (mother's name) to permanently move with (daughter's name) to the USA. 

 

 

Sign, date, and get it notarized. 

 

 

How does custody work there? Does the mother have sole custody? I know some countries when the mother has sole custody they don't need the father's consent. 

That should be something else to look into. 

 

 

I'm going to move your thread to the Regional forum because it will help get country specific answers. 

 

 

 

Custody in Thailand can be similar to the USA but the problem many many times is the people don't legally marry. This is because to some degree the women don't want to give them legal access to their families land for example. Children are used as pawns by the men and are often actually raised by the fathers mother. There are no support laws so fathers do as they please. 

Custody awarded by a Thai court has been used to obtain a visa in the past. Getting that custody is about what we might expect here if all goes well. If not it becomes Thailand. 

A notary in Thailand is really a lawyer. They don't have just notaries as we do here. 

[Hornswoggled 17]

On 8/6/2017 at 11:02 PM, Ning said:

No but you can ask the embassy for a sample letter. Its very simple really that anyone could construct. It should say the father allows the child to emigrate to the USA. These are done thru a ' notary ' but they are to be seen as a lawyer would be here. Beware as you look for one. 

Visa timeline for 21 or over can be years so best to get this done. 

1 No but you can request sample from embassy. Its just the father allowing the child to emigrate to the USA. Lawyer preps. Dad signs. 

2 During P 3 

3 Thai law has nothing to do with this. 

Thai men often will attempt to extort the farang. This is done thru a 3rd party. If your wife isn't familiar with this it can get difficult & consume a lot of time. I have also seen cases go very well but its a negotiation most of the time I think. One father recent changed his mind after a long fight & signed because he said he realized his daughter would become better educated ect. 

Thanks for the answers.

 

#2: Sorry, what is P3? I didn't find that abbreviation anywhere.

 

Also, any idea if the parental permission must be done in the native language (Thai), along with a certified translation into English?

[Ning 619]

19 hours ago, Hornswoggled said:

Thanks for the answers.

 

#2: Sorry, what is P3? I didn't find that abbreviation anywhere.

 

Also, any idea if the parental permission must be done in the native language (Thai), along with a certified translation into English?

Packet 3. 

Yes. Its to be in Thai then cert trans. This translation can be done by anyone competent in both languages. They simply include a statement that they are such which then becomes the certification.