Trump, GOP senators unveil measure to cut legal immigration

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4 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

The language thing is one of the most stupid ideas to come out of this administration. There has never been, and there is no language requisite for anyone to become a resident in this country. Furthermore, America does not have an official language, although English can be considered its lingua franca. If we're going to go with an official language, I think the People should vote, and I for one will campaign for Targaryen or Clingon. English is the language of England, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, among others, all of which are socialist countries, and make the language unfit for Murkha.

 

 

we should be more concerned with american citizens being required to learn another language..but oh mylanta would that cause an uproar from isolationists/assimilationists.

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Are you saying that no one in the Philippines, or Russia are capable of meeting the merit based requirements?

You nailed it, anyone who questions our immigration bill is really a closet racist who wants to put people on a plantation

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2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You nailed it, anyone who questions our immigration bill is really a closet racist who wants to put people on a plantation

I thought we covered this.  Everyone is a racist, everyone is a bigot, everyone discriminates.  There is nobody in this forum that can claim the high road here.

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55 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

What it sounded like to me. Wow. Bigotry 

 

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stephen miller shouldn't be offended, he should be proud. 

 

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The exchange is notable because Miller—who is ethnically Jewish, like the writer of the Statue of Liberty poem he doesn’t think represents anything important about America—is one of the Trump administration officials with the deepest connections to the white-nationalist movement.
Miller went to college at Duke with neo-Nazi rebrander Richard Spencer, who has said they knew each other very well and that they bonded over “concerns that immigrants from non-European countries were not assimilating.”

When he was in high school, Miller wrote an op-ed attacking Hispanic classmates. “When I entered Santa Monica High School in ninth grade, I noticed a number of students lacked basic English skills. There are usually very few, if any, Hispanic students in my honors classes, despite the large number of Hispanic students that attend our school,” he wrote.

He also criticized policies meant to help integrate Spanish-speakers into American school systems:

Even so, pursuant to district policy, all announcements are written in both Spanish and English. By providing a crutch now, we are preventing Spanish speakers from standing on their own. As politically correct as this may be, it demeans the immigrant population as incompetent, and makes a mockery of the American ideal of personal accomplishment.
Additionally, former classmates of Miller’s told Univision Noticias that he used to mock children of Asian and Hispanic immigrants who didn’t speak English well. Finally, one former classmate told Vanity Fair that Miller ended his friendship with him in part “because of my Latino heritage.”

The point is that Acosta’s question was totally reasonable given Miller’s own past and his influence on immigration policy today. The presidential aide treated it, though, as an “insult.”

As BuzzFeed News reported, Trump’s policy would increase the percentage of skilled workers allowed to immigrate to the United States, decrease the number of low-skilled workers and family members of green-card holders and Americans, and create a points system that prioritized English speakers. “This competitive application process will favor applicants who can speak English, financially support themselves and their families, and demonstrate skills that will contribute to our economy,” Trump said in announcing the proposal.

At one point, Acosta wondered hyperbolically whether the administration was aiming to limit immigration to Great Britain and Australia. Miller erupted at him in indignation. “That you think that only people from Great Britain or Australia would speak English is so insulting to millions who do speak English from all over the world,” he said.

Miller effectively distracted from his potentially embarrassing statements about the Statue of Liberty and the focus of the policy itself on English speakers and its potentially xenophobic roots.

Incidentally, Miller has supporters in his position on the insignificance of the Statue of Liberty poem. Rush Limbaugh, for one, has ranted against it in recent years. It is also a consistent topic on the xenophobic anti-immigrant web site VDare. And after Trump’s first unconstitutional Muslim ban was issued in January, Richard Spencer said this about the poem: “It’s offensive that such a beautiful, inspiring statue was ever associated with ugliness, weakness, and deformity.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/02/stephen_miller_doesn_t_care_for_your_stupid_poem_statue_of_liberty.html

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30 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

we should be more concerned with american citizens being required to learn another language..but oh mylanta would that cause an uproar from isolationists/assimilationists.

 

 

Based on empirical evidence provided in this forum, my concern is with American citizens learning English, before demanding that others do so as well. 

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36 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You nailed it, anyone who questions our immigration bill is really a closet racist who wants to put people on a plantation

 

 

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Acosta: I Brought ‘Heat’ To WH Press Briefing [VIDEO]

 

CNN’s Jim Acosta believes he brought the “heat” to a Wednesday White House press briefing where he got slammed by Trump adviser Stephen Miller.

Acosta seemed to argue during the briefing that the poem on the Statue of Liberty requires that the United States can’t prioritize high-skilled immigrants.

“Aren’t you trying to change what it means to be an immigrant coming into this country if you’re telling them, you have to speak English when they get here?” Acosta asked.

Miller smacked down Acosta’s claim, responding, “it’s a requirement that to be naturalized you have to speak English, so the notion that speaking English wouldn’t be a part of immigration systems would be very ahistorical.”

 

However, according to Acosta, Stephen Miller just couldn’t handle the heat that Acosta was bringing to the briefing.

During a CNN appearance Wednesday night, Acosta said, “We always welcome all kinds of people from all walks of life into this country, all people coming into this country have merit, they shouldn’t be subjected to a point system.”

 

 

 

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/02/acosta-i-brought-heat-to-wh-press-briefing-video/

 

Who knew it wasn't the Legislative and Executive branches that control immigration, the statue of liberty has been pulling the strings all along. 

 

Maybe she believes in the national popular vote as criteria for President too.

 

#AlternateReality

 

I think lefties need to pick a planet and stick with it.

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5 minutes ago, IAMX said:

 

 

 

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/02/acosta-i-brought-heat-to-wh-press-briefing-video/

 

Who knew it wasn't the Legislative and Executive branches that control immigration, the statue of liberty has been pulling the strings all along. 

 

Maybe she believes in the national popular vote as criteria for President too.

 

#AlternateReality

 

I think lefties need to pick a planet and stick with it.

might be funny if acosta was actually arguing that the statue of liberty controls immigration and creates policy. since that wasn't his argument, and good ol boy miller was just so clutch-my-pearls offended, looks to me like a bunch of distraction. miller is a xenophobe, proud to unveil this bigoted immigration bill but not so proud to publicly defend his true beliefs and opinions as is typical of whiny nationalists' cowardice. oh but i bet miller even has a mexican friend!

Edited August 3, 2017 by smilesammich

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13 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

might be funny if acosta was actually arguing that the statue of liberty controls immigration and creates policy. since that wasn't his argument, and good ol boy miller was just so clutch-my-pearls offended, looks to me like a bunch of distraction. miller is a xenophobe, proud to unveil this bigoted immigration bill but not so proud to publicly defend his true beliefs and opinions as is typical of whiny nationalists' cowardice. oh but i bet miller even has a mexican friend!

 

Miller couldn't handle the heat, and lost his cool on camera. He couldn't defend the newest stupidity the so-called president has to offer his dwindling base, so he decided to change the subject and discuss with the nature of the journalist's question, instead of arguing facts. Apparently other journalists had similar questions, and he just bailed out on them too. If there ever was a picture of someone trying to defend the indefensible, the exchange with Jim Acosta is it.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

might be funny if acosta was actually arguing that the statue of liberty controls immigration and creates policy. since that wasn't his argument, and good ol boy miller was just so clutch-my-pearls offended, looks to me like a bunch of distraction. miller is a xenophobe, proud to unveil this bigoted immigration bill but not so proud to publicly defend his true beliefs and opinions as is typical of whiny nationalists' cowardice. oh but i bet miller even has a mexican friend!

What was his argument?  That Canada's immigration policy is bad?

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4 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Miller couldn't handle the heat, and lost his cool on camera. He couldn't defend the newest stupidity the so-called president has to offer his dwindling base, so he decided to change the subject and discuss with the nature of the journalist's question, instead of arguing facts. Apparently other journalists had similar questions, and he just bailed out on them too. If there ever was a picture of someone trying to defend the indefensible, the exchange with Jim Acosta is it.

 

 

'liberals are the real racists' is a worn out tactic of white nationalists. miller knew that would be his approach if anyone questioned the bigoted/xenophobic nature of his stupid failure of a bill. what's funny to me is that miller is too stupid to realize he's just a flap of bloody meat trump is waving at his base.

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

What was his argument?  That Canada's immigration policy is bad?

who miller? his argument is that we need a 'period of assimilation' and being called out on his bigotry is extremely offensive to his delicate fee fees.

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9 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Miller couldn't handle the heat, and lost his cool on camera. He couldn't defend the newest stupidity the so-called president has to offer his dwindling base, so he decided to change the subject and discuss with the nature of the journalist's question, instead of arguing facts. Apparently other journalists had similar questions, and he just bailed out on them too. If there ever was a picture of someone trying to defend the indefensible, the exchange with Jim Acosta is it.

 

 

Sounded like Acosta was the one flustered especially when he started confusing legal immigration with illegal immigration.  Miller was right when he called him out for mixing this up and for also making bigoted generalizations.  Sure, no one in any other country other than the UK and Australia know English.  Last I heard many in NZ also know English.  But Acosta works for CNN which explains a lot.

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

who miller? his argument is that we need a 'period of assimilation' and being called out on his bigotry is extremely offensive to his delicate fee fees.

Acosta's argument?  That is who you cited and why I replied.  Ii think Acosta was the bigoted one in the conversation.

Edited August 3, 2017 by Bill & Katya

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

What was his argument?  That Canada's immigration policy is bad?

maybe you should read the full text or watch the exchange. it wasn't an argument, acosta posed a question - here's the text 

 

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: What you're proposing here, what the president's proposing here does not sound like it's in keeping with American tradition when it comes to immigration. 

The Statue of Liberty says, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. It doesn't say anything about speaking English or being able to be a computer programmer. 

Aren't you trying to change what it means to be an immigrant coming into this country if you're telling them, you have to speak English? Can't people learn how to speak English when they get here? 
 

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1708/02/cnr.07.html