August 2017 I-129F Filers

[William 36875 11]

4 hours ago, Naes said:

???

 

I am not American. I didn't say it is bad. It is just they are sending of a lot of their citizens more than most other countries, and they want their safety. 

 

These seminars give them info info on how to live abroad, how to deal with domestic violence etc.in k1 only the 15% is from Philippines, they are just trying to help them..

 

I don't understand your problem.

Even if it was not for their safety it is their rule and that's it. Believe me there are ridiculous laws in US too...

 

Are you crazy??? 

If you have a problem don't go around subtly, say it to my face.

If your going to be an American.... educate yourself about freedom...

 

For those that find human right important,  please contact me....

We will not be doing this class... it's in violation of this conversation of the Philippines and international human rights...

 

Freedom of movement, mobility rights, or the right to travel is a human rights concept encompassing the right of individuals to travel from place to place within the territory of a country,^[1] and to leave the country and return to it. The right includes not only visiting places, but changing the place where the individual resides or works.^[1][2]

Such a right is provided in the constitutions of numerous states, and in documents reflecting norms of international law. For example, Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights asserts that:

• a citizen of a state in which that citizen is present has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where one pleases within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others,^[3]
• and that a citizen also has the right to leave any country, including his or her own, and to return to his or her country at any time.^[4]

Some people and organizations advocate an extension of the freedom of movement to include a freedom of movement – or migration – between the countries as well as within the countries. This include Libertarian Party of the United States, the International Society for Individual Liberty, and economist Bryan Caplan.^[5][6]

[William 36875 11]

3 hours ago, Naes said:

You know that moment when you just can't just grasp the situation and your face looks like "what the --" moment... yeah I get that a lot recently....

It's only a WT# because no one else has the brains to realize that it's wrong and be man enough to stand up from the rest of the sheep and say so.... 

Tell me when you get there.... just saying..

[Naes 12,205]

2 minutes ago, William 36875 said:

It's only a WT# because no one else has the brains to realize that it's wrong and be man enough to stand up from the rest of the sheep and say so.... 

Tell me when you get there.... just saying..

I know.. I'm looking at this one too and trying to understand what's wrong with you...

Edited March 2, 2018 by Naes

[Naes 12,205]

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13 minutes ago, William 36875 said:

If your going to be an American.... educate yourself about freedom...

 

For those that find human right important,  please contact me....

We will not be doing this class... it's in violation of this conversation of the Philippines and international human rights...

 

Freedom of movement, mobility rights, or the right to travel is a human rights concept encompassing the right of individuals to travel from place to place within the territory of a country,^[1] and to leave the country and return to it. The right includes not only visiting places, but changing the place where the individual resides or works.^[1][2]

Such a right is provided in the constitutions of numerous states, and in documents reflecting norms of international law. For example, Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights asserts that:

• a citizen of a state in which that citizen is present has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where one pleases within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others,^[3]
• and that a citizen also has the right to leave any country, including his or her own, and to return to his or her country at any time.^[4]

Some people and organizations advocate an extension of the freedom of movement to include a freedom of movement – or migration – between the countries as well as within the countries. This include Libertarian Party of the United States, the International Society for Individual Liberty, and economist Bryan Caplan.^[5][6]

From the level of your understanding of basic English, I am not sure if I would ever want to be in the same category as you. 

 

I have more than enough education. Thank you. You may start with literacy classes

[Christy&J 837]

6 hours ago, NICK & PAULA said:

@Naes  -  girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

WE GOT APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We got a call back from TIER 2 and he says we're approved today! 

 

@K & R @Thelucybelle @ChuAni @Kswtangel @SAD2017 @S_Flores @Justmel @Vholde346 @Jaquelly @streanor @Christy&J @emekus94 @Nikki&pat 

 

GUYSSSSSSS! NICK & I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS AND OUT OF THIS WORLD SUPPORT. YOUR WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT HAVE KEPT ME HOPING. TODAY IS THE DAY! I AM CRYING AS I AM WRITING HERE. YOU PEOPLE ARE THE MOST AMAZING PEOPLE I'VE MET HERE. 

 

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE! (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY GUYS, I AM SHAKING AND CRYING) 

 

 

OmG!!!!!!!! Congrats !!!! so happy for you !!

 

Don't forget our BBQ party to celebrate it ! you do it at your home I'll do it at my place hahahaahahaha !!!

[Naes 12,205]

19 minutes ago, William 36875 said:

If you're going to be an American.... Educate yourself about freedom...

 

For those that find human rights are important,  please contact me....

We will not be doing this class... it's in violation of this conversation of the Philippines and international human rights...

Go for it! Don't do it! And save the country!

 

but also learn your language  

 

good luck!

[William 36875 11]

8 minutes ago, Naes said:

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From the level of your understanding of basic English, I am not sure if I would ever want to be in the same category as you. 

 

I have more than enough education. Thank you. You may start with literacy classes

Ca is a perfect place for you.... enjoy...

Edited March 2, 2018 by William 36875

[Naes 12,205]

Just now, William 36875 said:

Ca is a perfect place for ypu.... enjoy...

I will  

 

I like educated and decent people more

[Thina 13]

14 minutes ago, Christy&J said:

OmG!!!!!!!! Congrats !!!! so happy for you !!

 

Don't forget our BBQ party to celebrate it ! you do it at your home I'll do it at my place hahahaahahaha !!!

Edited March 2, 2018 by Thina

[sillyali 107]

my fiancé is from the philippines and honestly speaking, she didn’t find “abnormal” or any of the other words that are said offensive because she actually said that it is true. “abnormal” just meant above normal, that means higher than what is normal, and when its lower it’s called below normal ☝🏻😊 if anyone doesn’t understand it so well, and it is a fact that philippines has an above normal rate of filipinos traveling, working, or immigrating abroad and that CFO is a way for philippine government to at least give an idea of how it would be like living outside the philippines. It’s not gonna hurt going through that seminar because even if we spend a whole week of rambling and complaining about it, we’re still gonna need to undergo it 🤷🏻‍♀️ so why stress yourself? if one doesn’t want to go then don’t, let’s not argue with others or snap on anyone. 

 

lets have peace here ✌🏻

[ZKT 118]

2 hours ago, William 36875 said:

If your going to be an American.... educate yourself about freedom...

 

For those that find human right important,  please contact me....

We will not be doing this class... it's in violation of this conversation of the Philippines and international human rights...

 

Freedom of movement, mobility rights, or the right to travel is a human rights concept encompassing the right of individuals to travel from place to place within the territory of a country,^[1] and to leave the country and return to it. The right includes not only visiting places, but changing the place where the individual resides or works.^[1][2]

Such a right is provided in the constitutions of numerous states, and in documents reflecting norms of international law. For example, Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights asserts that:

• a citizen of a state in which that citizen is present has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where one pleases within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others,^[3]
• and that a citizen also has the right to leave any country, including his or her own, and to return to his or her country at any time.^[4]

Some people and organizations advocate an extension of the freedom of movement to include a freedom of movement – or migration – between the countries as well as within the countries. This include Libertarian Party of the United States, the International Society for Individual Liberty, and economist Bryan Caplan.^[5][6]

 

dude i'm sure naes knows all about american freedom and can learn even more about it when she gets there. but you also should educate yourself of philippine laws & policies, since you're future wife is from here. 

 

traveling is a freedom which everyone can enjoy. that is true and no one is stopping her to travel as she pleases but then whatever country you travel to you have to follow all their laws and also the laws of the country she's coming from. which i think everyone would agree.

 

you're forgetting that although she's planning to be a us citizen later, she's still also a filipino citizen and as a citizen of our country we must abide laws in our country. remember she's still in philippine soil when you have the visa unless she does her interview in another country.

 

sure, i find this cfo seminar stupid as well in fact a major hassle since it's soo far from where i live, that area's ghetto-ish and traffic and on the "unsafe" side and an added cost to me. i can think of soo many valid excuses. 

 

but if the immigration officer sees that she has a fiance visa stamped in her passport, she will not even be allowed to board the jet to leave the country. trust on me that. i've seen it soo many times at the airport for filipinos that work abroad. when the immigration officer sees a work visa stamped or a spouse visa or fiance visa and you do not go through the poea stamp/cfo stamp.. then you can kiss that flight good bye!  our immigration officers are very strict with us even if we're just traveling for fun.

 

i live abroad 85% of my life after graduating from university. so whenever i have a different type of visa (not student one) i have to go through the poea (a government agency that covers all filipino workers abroad) the equivalent of the agency handing the cfo. so i have lots of experience of this type of seminar from different countries. and i had many experiences coming in and out of my country and seeing these filipinos that were not allowed to board their flight. so it's up to you if you want to take that risk.

if you do try to continue this route, make sure you have a return flight to the philippines. (even if you're not flying back to the philippines and taking a direct flight to america from singapore). that is your only chance of getting away with not having that stamp in your fiance's passport with the immigration officer. although for a cheap amount, i'd rather pay that stupid seminar that pay for an expensive airplane ticket that i'm not going to be taking.

and about your rant for human rights? omg this is exactly why our government has this type of . our government set this up for overseas filipino workers and for those marrying foreigners so that they know their rights and how to assimilate with the community when they get to that specific country they are moving into. some part of the seminar covers what life is like in that country, basic things and knowledge on how to survive on your own, their/customs/traditions in that specific country that you have to abide. sometimes even really annoying to me is they actually do the whole process of you arriving at the airport, to checking in, going through immigration and then boarding and what happens too when you land in that foreign country. 

 

i'm an educated person, college graduate with a post graduate course and probably lower class a bracket in the economic pyramid. i find that cfo seminar excruciating because i know all that and i travel a lot all over europe, america, asia apart from my work. i've also been to america and lived there. but then when you think about it, most of the filipinos that work abroad and those that marry foreigners are from very low income bracket families that probably don't even travel abroad and if by chance they have... it could be nearby asian countries. a lot of those filipinos are also not so educated so they are subject to abuse, being taken advantage of and all sorts of human rights violations. so i get it, it's stupid for me but super beneficial to them. as a filipino citizen myself, i have to abide that as well like it or not. and one of the things about this seminar is that it registers you to be there in that country so if there are any calamities or natural disasters or war in that particular country then our embassy will be looking for her to make sure she's safe, give her stuff or fly her to safety. or if they're battered wives or raped, jailed for criminal acts or whatever (cause this does happen a lot to a lot of filipinos) then the government can also save that person since that person is registered like you're registered to a particular state or country. so basically at its very core this seminar is just to protect filipino citizens.
 

 

 

 

[dmoonsluv 55]

August 24th filer, 190 days already. I wonder what is going on with the USCIS.  I called last friday and yesterday, spoke with a 2level officer on both occasion. Case hasn't been touched. 

[peterad 28]

4 hours ago, PJN&MMR said:

Long form birth certificates are quite common as a requriement now days. I had to go to baltimore to get just that from the state years ago. It’s easy. Marriage certificates are also done in tripple seal forms in DC I learned. These documents are hard to forge so thats the only reason really. She should use her new birth cert going forward. Keep the old one in the safe.

Isn't the requirement that you can submit all pages of a US passport OR a birth certificate?

[NICK & PAULA 1,097]

1 hour ago, Katrina Roa said:

 

dude i'm sure naes knows all about american freedom and can learn even more about it when she gets there. but you also should educate yourself of philippine laws & policies, since you're future wife is from here. 

 

traveling is a freedom which everyone can enjoy. that is true and no one is stopping her to travel as she pleases but then whatever country you travel to you have to follow all their laws and also the laws of the country she's coming from. which i think everyone would agree.

 

you're forgetting that although she's planning to be a us citizen later, she's still also a filipino citizen and as a citizen of our country we must abide laws in our country. remember she's still in philippine soil when you have the visa unless she does her interview in another country.

 

sure, i find this cfo seminar stupid as well in fact a major hassle since it's soo far from where i live, that area's ghetto-ish and traffic and on the "unsafe" side and an added cost to me. i can think of soo many valid excuses. 

 

but if the immigration officer sees that she has a fiance visa stamped in her passport, she will not even be allowed to board the jet to leave the country. trust on me that. i've seen it soo many times at the airport for filipinos that work abroad. when the immigration officer sees a work visa stamped or a spouse visa or fiance visa and you do not go through the poea stamp/cfo stamp.. then you can kiss that flight good bye!  our immigration officers are very strict with us even if we're just traveling for fun.

 

i live abroad 85% of my life after graduating from university. so whenever i have a different type of visa (not student one) i have to go through the poea (a government agency that covers all filipino workers abroad) the equivalent of the agency handing the cfo. so i have lots of experience of this type of seminar from different countries. and i had many experiences coming in and out of my country and seeing these filipinos that were not allowed to board their flight. so it's up to you if you want to take that risk.

if you do try to continue this route, make sure you have a return flight to the philippines. (even if you're not flying back to the philippines and taking a direct flight to america from singapore). that is your only chance of getting away with not having that stamp in your fiance's passport with the immigration officer. although for a cheap amount, i'd rather pay that stupid seminar that pay for an expensive airplane ticket that i'm not going to be taking.

and about your rant for human rights? omg this is exactly why our government has this type of . our government set this up for overseas filipino workers and for those marrying foreigners so that they know their rights and how to assimilate with the community when they get to that specific country they are moving into. some part of the seminar covers what life is like in that country, basic things and knowledge on how to survive on your own, their/customs/traditions in that specific country that you have to abide. sometimes even really annoying to me is they actually do the whole process of you arriving at the airport, to checking in, going through immigration and then boarding and what happens too when you land in that foreign country. 

 

i'm an educated person, college graduate with a post graduate course and probably lower class a bracket in the economic pyramid. i find that cfo seminar excruciating because i know all that and i travel a lot all over europe, america, asia apart from my work. i've also been to america and lived there. but then when you think about it, most of the filipinos that work abroad and those that marry foreigners are from very low income bracket families that probably don't even travel abroad and if by chance they have... it could be nearby asian countries. a lot of those filipinos are also not so educated so they are subject to abuse, being taken advantage of and all sorts of human rights violations. so i get it, it's stupid for me but super beneficial to them. as a filipino citizen myself, i have to abide that as well like it or not. and one of the things about this seminar is that it registers you to be there in that country so if there are any calamities or natural disasters or war in that particular country then our embassy will be looking for her to make sure she's safe, give her stuff or fly her to safety. or if they're battered wives or raped, jailed for criminal acts or whatever (cause this does happen a lot to a lot of filipinos) then the government can also save that person since that person is registered like you're registered to a particular state or country. so basically at its very core this seminar is just to protect filipino citizens.
 

 

 

 

I couldn't have said it any better! This comment sums it all up. I am a Filipina and I don't see anything wrong about having a CFO seminar in my country. Thank you so much for shedding light about it. I hope it's very clear on that person who have a say/complaint about CFOs because whether he likes it or not, his fiancee will have to go through it. 

 

 

[NICK & PAULA 1,097]

3 hours ago, sillyali said:

my fiancé is from the philippines and honestly speaking, she didn’t find “abnormal” or any of the other words that are said offensive because she actually said that it is true. “abnormal” just meant above normal, that means higher than what is normal, and when its lower it’s called below normal ☝🏻😊 if anyone doesn’t understand it so well, and it is a fact that philippines has an above normal rate of filipinos traveling, working, or immigrating abroad and that CFO is a way for philippine government to at least give an idea of how it would be like living outside the philippines. It’s not gonna hurt going through that seminar because even if we spend a whole week of rambling and complaining about it, we’re still gonna need to undergo it 🤷🏻‍♀️ so why stress yourself? if one doesn’t want to go then don’t, let’s not argue with others or snap on anyone. 

 

lets have peace here ✌🏻

I am a Filipina and I wasn't offended at all!  Thank you for this comment.