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6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What exactly is the question? Sorry, I went back a few pages but there's a number of ongoing conversations in the monthly filing threads so it's hard to trace back.

 

In general...

The I-134 is not as specific as the I-864. What qualifies as a fully vs partially dependent individual is brought up and I don't have a "100% this is the case" answer, sorry. I generally defer to the I-864 guidelines when it's not spelled out on the I-134...if it's good enough for that then it should be good enough for the I-134, too.

 

The I-864 lists the rules for who to count in the household more clearly (https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-864instr.pdf), pages 6-7. Assuming the question is about children (I caught one post mentioning this, I think?):

"Item Number 4.

Enter the number of unmarried children you have who are under 21 years of age, even if you do not have legal custody of these children. You may exclude any unmarried children under 21 years of age, if these children have reached majority under the law of their place of domicile and you do not claim them as dependents on your Federal income tax returns.

 

Item Number 5.

Enter the number of any other dependents. You must include each and every person whom you have claimed as a dependent on your most recent Federal income tax return, even if that person is not related to you. Even if you are not legally obligated to support that person, you must include the person if, in fact, you did support that person and claimed the person as a dependent."

So this is all in relation to the petitioner (i.e. petitioner has a dependent child).. if the beneficiary has a child but they are not bringing them (staying back in country of origin with other parent for now) they don't count as a dependent.. correct?

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182 days and counting ..... August 24th filer ... 

 

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@S_Flores Congratulations!!!! Mabuhay! :wub:

Thank you, dear. (L) I followed you here on Visa Journey. I hope you don't mind. :) I can't wait to see an update on your timeline soon! (L)

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20 minutes ago, Mrsjackson said:

It’s my understanding that yes, he must list his child as a dependant, whether the child is listed as a dependant on his tax return or not. I learned that on this site from other users, and the reason given to me was because although the child may not currently be a dependant, circumstances can change. 

Yes i think your right. Thank you❤️ Anyway even though he put his child as partially dependent he still covers that poverty guidelines . But i really want to make sure about it☺️ Thanks guys

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Thank you, dear. (L) I followed you here on Visa Journey. I hope you don't mind. :) I can't wait to see an update on your timeline soon! (L)

Aww! Thank you so much, hun. That's so sweet! Congratulations again and good luck with  NVC stage. Won't be long till you will be with your love. Soon, you'll get to hold him again. :wub: i am so happy for you!

Packet Sent: August 23, 2017 

NOA1 Received Date: August 25, 2017 

NOA1 Notice Date: August 29, 2017

NOA2: March 1, 2018 (by calling Tier 2)

NOA 2 Notice Date: March 2, 2018 (according to the new USCIS website)

NOA2 Hard Copy: March 6, 2018 

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15 minutes ago, L and E said:

So this is all in relation to the petitioner (i.e. petitioner has a dependent child).. if the beneficiary has a child but they are not bringing them (staying back in country of origin with other parent for now) they don't count as a dependent.. correct?

Correct. You don't have to sponsor somebody who is not immigrating. If they decide to do follow-to-join later for a K-2, or get petitioned separately later, then a new I-134/I-864 would be needed for them anyway.

Timelines:

ROC:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Hey Augustines!

 

They literally started updating in the middle of my scan.....

But as I am already 1 hour late to work(I don't really care) I will cut it and won't restart for now.

( So the scan is only 8/21 and later )

 

However I have awesome news!!!!!!!!

 

2/22 Mid day: 49 

The latest day touched:  August 29

 

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23 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What exactly is the question? Sorry, I went back a few pages but there's a number of ongoing conversations in the monthly filing threads so it's hard to trace back.

 

In general...

The I-134 is not as specific as the I-864. What qualifies as a fully vs partially dependent individual is brought up and I don't have a "100% this is the case" answer, sorry. I generally defer to the I-864 guidelines when it's not spelled out on the I-134...if it's good enough for that then it should be good enough for the I-134, too.

 

The I-864 lists the rules for who to count in the household more clearly (https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-864instr.pdf), pages 6-7. Assuming the question is about children (I caught one post mentioning this, I think?):

"Item Number 4.

Enter the number of unmarried children you have who are under 21 years of age, even if you do not have legal custody of these children. You may exclude any unmarried children under 21 years of age, if these children have reached majority under the law of their place of domicile and you do not claim them as dependents on your Federal income tax returns.

 

Item Number 5.

Enter the number of any other dependents. You must include each and every person whom you have claimed as a dependent on your most recent Federal income tax return, even if that person is not related to you. Even if you are not legally obligated to support that person, you must include the person if, in fact, you did support that person and claimed the person as a dependent."

@Ning_15

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9 minutes ago, Naes said:

Hey Augustines!

 

They literally started updating in the middle of my scan.....

But as I am already 1 hour late to work(I don't really care) I will cut it and won't restart for now.

( So the scan is only 8/21 and later )

 

However I have awesome news!!!!!!!!

 

2/22 Mid day: 49 

The latest day touched:  August 29

 

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Wow I'm august 29 filer i cant believed what i see 🙏🙏🙏..i love this, i love this, i love this thank u @Naes😘😘😘

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34 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What exactly is the question? Sorry, I went back a few pages but there's a number of ongoing conversations in the monthly filing threads so it's hard to trace back.

 

In general...

The I-134 is not as specific as the I-864. What qualifies as a fully vs partially dependent individual is brought up and I don't have a "100% this is the case" answer, sorry. I generally defer to the I-864 guidelines when it's not spelled out on the I-134...if it's good enough for that then it should be good enough for the I-134, too.

 

The I-864 lists the rules for who to count in the household more clearly (https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-864instr.pdf), pages 6-7. Assuming the question is about children (I caught one post mentioning this, I think?):

"Item Number 4.

Enter the number of unmarried children you have who are under 21 years of age, even if you do not have legal custody of these children. You may exclude any unmarried children under 21 years of age, if these children have reached majority under the law of their place of domicile and you do not claim them as dependents on your Federal income tax returns.

 

Item Number 5.

Enter the number of any other dependents. You must include each and every person whom you have claimed as a dependent on your most recent Federal income tax return, even if that person is not related to you. Even if you are not legally obligated to support that person, you must include the person if, in fact, you did support that person and claimed the person as a dependent."

my fiance have a child support but the custody is under her ex wife. In his w2, there was NO dependent written, meaning single. Should He still place His daughter as partially dependent on him because of his child custody??? This is my question. Thanks for answering in advance☺️

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12 minutes ago, Naes said:

@Ning_15

Thanks❤️ Have to read the link

55 minutes ago, Mrsjackson said:

It’s my understanding that yes, he must list his child as a dependant, whether the child is listed as a dependant on his tax return or not. I learned that on this site from other users, and the reason given to me was because although the child may not currently be a dependant, circumstances can change. 

Thanks for the info☺️

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22 minutes ago, Naes said:

Hey Augustines!

 

They literally started updating in the middle of my scan.....

But as I am already 1 hour late to work(I don't really care) I will cut it and won't restart for now.

( So the scan is only 8/21 and later )

 

However I have awesome news!!!!!!!!

 

2/22 Mid day: 49 

The latest day touched:  August 29

 

08/21/17 2/22/2018 Your Current Status: Case Was Approved
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Omg thank u so much @Naes.

I hope i will get my noa 2 soon 😍😍

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6 hours ago, N. Phillips said:

Yeah I guess I am just confused... because I work at a law firm and I don't necessarily work with immigration, but I have attorneys here who have some experience with immigration and they said the i-129f and all supporting documents for that are not needed until the "adjustment to status/green card" interview...they said it's not necessary at the interview he has with the embassy to receive the visa to marry me. But I don't want to take their word for it.

 

Also I make $30,000 a year as the petitioner (0 dependents - it would just be me and my fiance) - do I still need a sponsor?

Wow and this must be how lawyers are messing this visa up in general...

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my fiance have a child support but the custody is under her ex wife. In his w2, there was NO dependent written, meaning single. Should He still place His daughter as partially dependent on him because of his child custody??? This is my question. Thanks for answering in advance☺️

I think according to item 4 he doesn't have to mention.

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