Why would anyone move a post ..

[Fandango 1,439]

Never mind Lisa... because there you go again...."there were plenty of people *chomping at the bit* to help ( I guess the wink is supposed to make it seem less like an insult)...it seems like all of a sudden anyone who is an organizer or whatever...which is so NOT a big deal like everyone is making it out to be! is some sort of LOOKIT ME, LOOKIT ME person. Well, that's just your perception...not how things really are. All I have to say about that.

You do have a point about the other though. I don't know why I assumed you weren't asked. I stand corrected on that. M.

No insult, Michelle...just a statement of fact Is that somehow a bad thing that there were people willing to help? *scratches head*

Edited April 18, 2007 by LisaD

[TimsDaisy 0]

Power tripping? Unfair to members? How's that?

Hey y'all - it's a free website that belongs to someone and is run by that someone and whomever the someone decides to have help out.

Don't like it? Register your request and then act accordingly. Either go along with it, because it isn't your site and you aren't paying to be here and you are most likely capable of learning and adapting, or take your ball and go home.

I will remain in the registered-my-complaint/opinion, will-adapt-and-move-along camp. I would think anyone incapable of that should move along and/or start a new site if this one isn't meeting needs.

[Fandango 1,439]

Power tripping? Unfair to members? How's that?

Hey y'all - it's a free website that belongs to someone and is run by that someone and whomever the someone decides to have help out.

Don't like it? Register your request and then act accordingly. Either go along with it, because it isn't your site and you aren't paying to be here and you are most likely capable of learning and adapting, or take your ball and go home.

I will remain in the registered-my-complaint/opinion, will-adapt-and-move-along camp. I would think anyone incapable of that should move along and/or start a new site if this one isn't meeting needs.

First you ask questions which only perpetrate more discussion which has already been done to death, then you give the ol if-you-don't-like-it-you-can-leave response. Hrmm.

[TimsDaisy 0]

Power tripping? Unfair to members? How's that?

Hey y'all - it's a free website that belongs to someone and is run by that someone and whomever the someone decides to have help out.

Don't like it? Register your request and then act accordingly. Either go along with it, because it isn't your site and you aren't paying to be here and you are most likely capable of learning and adapting, or take your ball and go home.

I will remain in the registered-my-complaint/opinion, will-adapt-and-move-along camp. I would think anyone incapable of that should move along and/or start a new site if this one isn't meeting needs.

First you ask questions which only perpetrate more discussion which has already been done to death, then you give the ol if-you-don't-like-it-you-can-leave response. Hrmm.

You're right. I did ask questions about who moved posts and why so many were moved. And I expressed my opinion that too many were moved. Then I was corrected in my thinking that anyone at all could move them. Then I acknowledged my incorrect thinking, and noted that I had never noticed the "organizer" handles in the sidebars before.

What I don't think I ever did, however, was say VJ was unfair or played favorites or was needlessly structured or that I had a problem with who was designated to move what (once the system was clarified for me). And I am sorry if anything I did cracked a door for others to start jumping all over the people who do organize and moderate things here.

And I have also said before and will reiterate now that this is someone's website, helpfully offered free-of-charge, and that whoever gets to make the rules makes the rules. There's no requirement to bend to the public will. So I have expressed my opinions. People in charge read them. And life goes on.

You say "perpetrate discussion" like it's bad. I think it's good. I did ask questions that led to discussion, but I didn't start calling for the heads of organizers or saying things here were unfair, after I had more of the facts.

And the final response is still applicable. So it is what it is.

[Fandango 1,439]

Power tripping? Unfair to members? How's that?

Hey y'all - it's a free website that belongs to someone and is run by that someone and whomever the someone decides to have help out.

Don't like it? Register your request and then act accordingly. Either go along with it, because it isn't your site and you aren't paying to be here and you are most likely capable of learning and adapting, or take your ball and go home.

I will remain in the registered-my-complaint/opinion, will-adapt-and-move-along camp. I would think anyone incapable of that should move along and/or start a new site if this one isn't meeting needs.

First you ask questions which only perpetrate more discussion which has already been done to death, then you give the ol if-you-don't-like-it-you-can-leave response. Hrmm.

You're right. I did ask questions about who moved posts and why so many were moved. And I expressed my opinion that too many were moved. Then I was corrected in my thinking that anyone at all could move them. Then I acknowledged my incorrect thinking, and noted that I had never noticed the "organizer" handles in the sidebars before.

What I don't think I ever did, however, was say VJ was unfair or played favorites or was needlessly structured or that I had a problem with who was designated to move what (once the system was clarified for me). And I am sorry if anything I did cracked a door for others to start jumping all over the people who do organize and moderate things here.

And I have also said before and will reiterate now that this is someone's website, helpfully offered free-of-charge, and that whoever gets to make the rules makes the rules. There's no requirement to bend to the public will. So I have expressed my opinions. People in charge read them. And life goes on.

You say "perpetrate discussion" like it's bad. I think it's good. I did ask questions that led to discussion, but I didn't start calling for the heads of organizers or saying things here were unfair, after I had more of the facts.

And the final response is still applicable. So it is what it is.

no, I meant in the beginning of your last post....I just edited to highlight it in red. You say you registered your complaints, and now you're over it...and if anyone can't do the same, perhaps they should move to a site with a better fit, yet the first thing you opened with was to enquire about that which you are now done talking abou (or moving on from, whatever)

Which confuses me, tbh.

Edited April 18, 2007 by LisaD

[TimsDaisy 0]

Power tripping? Unfair to members? How's that?

Hey y'all - it's a free website that belongs to someone and is run by that someone and whomever the someone decides to have help out.

Don't like it? Register your request and then act accordingly. Either go along with it, because it isn't your site and you aren't paying to be here and you are most likely capable of learning and adapting, or take your ball and go home.

I will remain in the registered-my-complaint/opinion, will-adapt-and-move-along camp. I would think anyone incapable of that should move along and/or start a new site if this one isn't meeting needs.

First you ask questions which only perpetrate more discussion which has already been done to death, then you give the ol if-you-don't-like-it-you-can-leave response. Hrmm.

You're right. I did ask questions about who moved posts and why so many were moved. And I expressed my opinion that too many were moved. Then I was corrected in my thinking that anyone at all could move them. Then I acknowledged my incorrect thinking, and noted that I had never noticed the "organizer" handles in the sidebars before.

What I don't think I ever did, however, was say VJ was unfair or played favorites or was needlessly structured or that I had a problem with who was designated to move what (once the system was clarified for me). And I am sorry if anything I did cracked a door for others to start jumping all over the people who do organize and moderate things here.

And I have also said before and will reiterate now that this is someone's website, helpfully offered free-of-charge, and that whoever gets to make the rules makes the rules. There's no requirement to bend to the public will. So I have expressed my opinions. People in charge read them. And life goes on.

You say "perpetrate discussion" like it's bad. I think it's good. I did ask questions that led to discussion, but I didn't start calling for the heads of organizers or saying things here were unfair, after I had more of the facts.

And the final response is still applicable. So it is what it is.

no, I meant in the beginning of your last post....I just edited to highlight it in red. You say you registered your complaints, and now you're over it...and if anyone can't do the same, perhaps they should move to a site with a better fit, yet the first thing you opened with was to enquire about that which you are now done talking abou (or moving on from, whatever)

Which confuses me, tbh.

You misread. I was expressing confusion over your and others' implications that anyone was "power tripping" or that the site is unfair to people. I disagree with those statements. After expressing my confusion (awe) over anyone getting from point A to point "power trip" out of this conversation, I went on with the rest of my reasons why I think those accusations are both incorrect and ineffective.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

This thread is getting way off topic. Please stay on the original topic or I will need to split this topic. Thanks!

[William33 110]

We have been in sunny Orlando for a week and missed this thread entirely.

Post moving has now become a problem.

When I started helping out with this some months back, there were extreme errors in topic placement, which were then appropriately assigned to the proper forum. With the intent to get the right focus on the question or issue. For example, IMBRA in the K-1 forum or Visa denial in K-3. Matters parallel to the given forum process were left alone.

With the recent addition of a large number of "organizers", things have gotten way out of control.

In fact, I have ceased moving topics, as there is way too much "help" out there.

For those that feel this is a control or power trip issue, you are mistaken. It is, in fact, a pain in the azz.

Perhaps with experience, the latest organizers will relax their aggressive move activity.

Without proper organization, chaos results.

[Fandango 1,439]

You misread. I was expressing confusion over your and others' implications that anyone was "power tripping" or that the site is unfair to people. I disagree with those statements. After expressing my confusion (awe) over anyone getting from point A to point "power trip" out of this conversation, I went on with the rest of my reasons why I think those accusations are both incorrect and ineffective.

I don't have a problem at all that you disagree...but you're reading things into your post that just aren't there.

Asking 'how's that?' encourages more dialogue....does it not? It doesn't read as 'awe'....nor did you address WHY they're inaccurate iyo...you just pulled out the bog standard 'if you don't like it leave' which fails to address why you feel my statement is incorrect or ineffective nor did it mention that you feel that my opinion is 'unfair'

My opinions were statements...hardly implications

As to how I got from A to 'power trip'...conversation is fluid and one benefit of the written word is there's a record of the evolution. If there's any confusion as to how it came about, you can either re-read or pm me since this convo has gone on long enough. But then again, I'll respect your theory of you 'voicing your opinion & then adjusting and moving on'. Your opinion of my opinion is now noted so have a great night and thx for the comments!

_____________________________________

William....if you've been moving posts for months, then you are obviously not part of the transition period since the problems have just arisen. Enjoy Orlando! Did you go to Universal Studios for Mardi Gras last week?

Edited April 19, 2007 by LisaD

[William33 110]

William....if you've been moving posts for months, then you are obviously not part of the transition period since the problems have just arisen. Enjoy Orlando! Did you go to Universal Studios for Mardi Gras last week?

No, we missed spring break. We did get to Cocoa beach alot, Sea world and visited family, so it was all good. Now the Midwest has "finally" warmed up. Thanks to that!!

[Sheriff Uling 3]

This thread is getting way off topic. Please stay on the original topic or I will need to split this topic. Thanks!

Don't slit the topic... just move the thread. Hahahahaha!!!!

[Marilyn. 340]

were their new "movers" added??.....

because all the ones I have seen so far have been movers for awhile....

question answered.. thanks

Edited April 19, 2007 by MarilynP

[Sheriff Uling 3]

RESTATED:

If a member generates a post(s) that does not match the content or purpose of a forum, the post will be moved to the appropriate forum, and a place holder will remain so others can reference the moved post from the previous forum. A post is moved in order to make it accessible to those who could potentially utilize the information most and provides consistency in where information and similar posts are located. Where is all the confusion coming from? Organization and/or the availability of information is the name of the game.

If you have any suggestions on how, when, or where inappropriate posts should be organized or handled, please contact Captain Ewok. I challenge you to be part of the solution and not part of the problem!

Cheers...

Sheriff Uling

[Otto 83]

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oh joy, yet another smart ####### comment.

Edited April 20, 2007 by devilette