N-400 August 2017 Filers

[AustinCanada 681]

Quick question! 

 

Part 9. Time Outside the United States

1. How many total days (24 hours or longer) did you spend outside the United States during the last 5 years?

2. How many trips of 24 hours or longer have you taken outside the United States during the last 5 years?

3. List below all the trips of 24 hours or longer that you have taken outside the United States during the last 5 years.

 

I'm applying under the eligibility of "Having been a lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 3 years, and my spouse has been a US citizen for the last 3 years at the time I filled my Form N-400".

 

Do I list all the days that I spent in the last 5 years (it means listing 2 years before I entered the US as a permanent resident) or just 3 years since I've become a permanent resident?  

[Going through 5,671]

11 hours ago, AustinCanada said:

Do I list all the days that I spent in the last 5 years (it means listing 2 years before I entered the US as a permanent resident) or just 3 years since I've become a permanent resident?

Just perusing other filers threads to compare stuff (I filed in July).

 

Since you are filing under the 3 year rule, list travel over the past 3 years only.

If you list further back before you even had the GC, then it will raise your total number of days considerably and make you look ineligible to apply for naturalization right off the bat  and at the very least, be confusing to the adjudicator reading your application.

 

Depending on how you answered the eligibility question at the beginning of the application, the adjudicator will realize that this section applies only to the previous three years, so be comforted by that  

 

If you are applying through paper application, you can also cross out "5" and write in "3" if you want, lots of people have done that.

Edited August 19, 2017 by Going through

[IPv6Freely 64]

I got this via email:

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We updated your case and it needs your attention

Sign in to your account to view your case status and additional steps you need to take

I signed in and saw nothing. I was expecting to see an RFE, but there was nothing there.

 

It wasn't until I clicked the "new experience" link (or whatever it says) that I saw this:

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We scheduled your biometrics appointment

Read the letter we mailed you for the appointment date, time, and location

I really hope that's what they meant by "needs your attention" and that I'm not missing something somewhere... 

[AustinCanada 681]

6 hours ago, Going through said:

Just perusing other filers threads to compare stuff (I filed in July).

 

Since you are filing under the 3 year rule, list travel over the past 3 years only.

If you list further back before you even had the GC, then it will raise your total number of days considerably and make you look ineligible to apply for naturalization right off the bat  and at the very least, be confusing to the adjudicator reading your application.

 

Depending on how you answered the eligibility question at the beginning of the application, the adjudicator will realize that this section applies only to the previous three years, so be comforted by that  

 

If you are applying through paper application, you can also cross out "5" and write in "3" if you want, lots of people have done that.

You are fabulous!  

 

I think USCIS should have stated something like "in the last 5 years (or 3 years if your eligibility is Part 1. B)".    

 

They could have a slightly different application for people who have been married to a US citizen for 3 years.  

 

Related question:  

 

Part 5. Information About Your Residence

Where have you lived during the last five years?

 

Part 8. Information About Your Employment and Schools You Attended

List where you have worked or attended school full time or part time during the last five years.

 

Should I list only the last 3 years of my residence and employment/school history so my citizenship officer doesn't assume I've been out of the US and am ineligible for citizenship?  

[Going through 5,671]

36 minutes ago, AustinCanada said:

You are fabulous!  

 

I think USCIS should have stated something like "in the last 5 years (or 3 years if your eligibility is Part 1. B)".    

 

They could have a slightly different application for people who have been married to a US citizen for 3 years.  

 

Related question:  

 

Part 5. Information About Your Residence

Where have you lived during the last five years?

 

Part 8. Information About Your Employment and Schools You Attended

List where you have worked or attended school full time or part time during the last five years.

 

Should I list only the last 3 years of my residence and employment/school history so my citizenship officer doesn't assume I've been out of the US and am ineligible for citizenship?  

 

With the residence, really they are more interested in your addresses within the USA.  However, for the purposes of the form it makes no difference whether those addresses have been within or outside the US---basically, they are trying to further determine the continuous residence criteria, as well as be aware of any other countries you may have lived in (and therefore done some less-than-wonderful things in) to assist background checks.  You should list the previous 5 year's worth.  Remember, only your more current addresses within the US will be used to determine your continuous residence eligibility.

 

Schools/Employment---listing all the countries/States you have been employed/educated in does nothing to hurt your application at all (unless you have been employed by certain groups)  so yes, you should list the previous 5 year's worth.

 

If you really wanted to, you can again cross out the 5 and put 3, as I have heard others do.

 

 

Edited August 19, 2017 by Going through

[Zombie69 363]

Just got my NOA in the mail. NOA date is: 8/10/2017. Please update whoever is doing the spread sheet, thanks. 

[AustinCanada 681]

N-400: August 2017 Applicants

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[AustinCanada 681]

3 hours ago, Zombie69 said:

Just got my NOA in the mail. NOA date is: 8/10/2017. Please update whoever is doing the spread sheet, thanks. 

I've added this info to the timeline table!  

[Zombie69 363]

3 minutes ago, AustinCanada said:

I've added this info to the timeline table!  

Thanks a lot!

[AustinCanada 681]

4 hours ago, Going through said:

With the residence, really they are more interested in your addresses within the USA.  However, for the purposes of the form it makes no difference whether those addresses have been within or outside the US---basically, they are trying to further determine the continuous residence criteria, as well as be aware of any other countries you may have lived in (and therefore done some less-than-wonderful things in) to assist background checks.  You should list the previous 5 year's worth.  Remember, only your more current addresses within the US will be used to determine your continuous residence eligibility.

 

Schools/Employment---listing all the countries/States you have been employed/educated in does nothing to hurt your application at all (unless you have been employed by certain groups)  so yes, you should list the previous 5 year's worth.

 

If you really wanted to, you can again cross out the 5 and put 3, as I have heard others do.

That makes sense!    Great advice!  

 

I'm amazed that USCIS doesn't make it easy for applicants applying under the eligibility of Part 1. B.!  

 

I'll include a cover letter indicating that I'm applying under the eligibility of Part 1. B. in order to make sure that my citizenship officer doesn't get confused even if he/she checks my application on Monday morning or Friday afternoon!  

[Pinkrlion 2,724]

8 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:

I got this via email:

I signed in and saw nothing. I was expecting to see an RFE, but there was nothing there.

 

It wasn't until I clicked the "new experience" link (or whatever it says) that I saw this:

I really hope that's what they meant by "needs your attention" and that I'm not missing something somewhere... 

It will show your biometric appt letter tomorrow.  I always click on the new version and then look at case activity.  You can download your letter.  I got my physical biometric letter today, but appt showed scheduled on the 12th.

[AustinCanada 681]

5 hours ago, Going through said:

With the residence, really they are more interested in your addresses within the USA.  However, for the purposes of the form it makes no difference whether those addresses have been within or outside the US---basically, they are trying to further determine the continuous residence criteria, as well as be aware of any other countries you may have lived in (and therefore done some less-than-wonderful things in) to assist background checks.  You should list the previous 5 year's worth.  Remember, only your more current addresses within the US will be used to determine your continuous residence eligibility.

 

Schools/Employment---listing all the countries/States you have been employed/educated in does nothing to hurt your application at all (unless you have been employed by certain groups)  so yes, you should list the previous 5 year's worth.

 

If you really wanted to, you can again cross out the 5 and put 3, as I have heard others do.

I've finished writing a cover letter stating that I'm applying for N-400 under the eligibility of Part 1. B.!   

 

I've also mentioned that I'm attaching a copy of my I-551 extension since my I-751 (Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence) application is still pending at CSC.  

[IPv6Freely 64]

I'd definitely put 5 years, whether that falls during your GC time or not. If they ask for 5, include 5, even if it doesn't make sense or doesn't seem relevant.

1 hour ago, Pinkrlion said:

It will show your biometric appt letter tomorrow.  I always click on the new version and then look at case activity.  You can download your letter.  I got my physical biometric letter today, but appt showed scheduled on the 12th.

Yea, it was just odd wording. "Needs your attention" implies I have to actually DO something, like if it was for an RFE. 

[IPv6Freely 64]

N-400: August 2017 Applicants

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GC-Date: The 'Resident Since' Date located on your first green card.
Sent: Date N-400 was mailed to USCIS.
Cashd: Date your check was cashed / credit card was charged by USCIS.
NOA: Receipt Notice Date Printed on your official I-797 notification.
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[darkchile 11]

1 hour ago, IPv6Freely said:

N-400: August 2017 Applicants

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Dallas/Lewisville, Texas Lockbox
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UserName......|GC-Date.|Sent.|Cashd|NOA..|Fprints.|In Line.|Int ltr.|Intrvw..|Oath....|Field Office.....|NBC/IOE
Ellinora......|10/01/14|08/02|08/10|08/10|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|San Francisco, CA|NBC

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USCIS Phoenix, Arizona Lockbox
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UserName......|GC-Date.|Sent.|Cashd|NOA..|Fprints.|In Line.|Int ltr.|Intrvw..|Oath....|Field Office.....|NBC/IOE
eeosucess.....|11/04/14|08/07|08/10|--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|San Francisco, CA|NBC
Zombie69......|11/04/14|08/08|08/15|08/10|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Los Angeles, CA..|NBC
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okininja......|--/--/--|08/07|08/14|08/15|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Albuquerque, NM..|NBC
Aneta73.......|11/07/12|08/09|08/15|08/14|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Chicago, IL......|NBC
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USCIS Online Filing
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UserName......|GC-Date.|Sent.|Cashd|NOA..|Fprints.|In Line.|Int ltr.|Intrvw..|Oath....|Field Office.....|NBC/IOE
Ken Adems.....|10/27/14|08/01|08/01|08/02|08/22/17|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Charlotte, NC....|IOE
waiting_for_ao|11/05/12|08/07|08/07|08/08|08/28/17|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Oklahoma City, OK|IOE
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GC-Date: The 'Resident Since' Date located on your first green card.
Sent: Date N-400 was mailed to USCIS.
Cashd: Date your check was cashed / credit card was charged by USCIS.
NOA: Receipt Notice Date Printed on your official I-797 notification.
Fprints:  Date assigned for fingerprinting (Bio-metrics). If you do your biometrics via walk-in prior to your scheduled appointment, please enter the date in bold blue.
In Line: Date you received e-notification about the start of your interview scheduling.
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Add me to the list please.

GC - 8/13/2014

Sent - 8/14

Cashd - 8/15

NOA - 8/15