I-30/beyond processing times

[MMManoel 0]

Greetings Everyone,

 

Exhausted and Discouraged!!

Applied l-30 for my husband  back in November 4th 2016.

 

It's been 10 months no response. I've called weekly, put in a service inquiry and spoke to TIER 2 supervisors back and forth.

 

I was told my application is not beyond processing time even though there are processing applications dated November 15, 2026. (I'm in month 10)

 

I was told that they will respond to my service inquiry by the 28th which is today. NOTHING no one has not been assigned to my husband case. I am an U.S Citzen my husband resides in Haiti.

 

Concern Wife

Any Suggestions???

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

I'm sure you mean i-130. In any case - processing as of date just means that that's the PD of the very latest case that have been started on. That doesn't mean that cases before that are all processed or even started on. That depends on so many other factors, like what IO picked up your case, how many other cases does that IO have to finish before getting to yours, how complex are those cases, how complex is your case, did they have vacation while your file is sitting... etc etc etc. So they are right that you are not outside of normal processing times.

 

Try to be patient, I know it's hard but many have also waited longer than you - you're case is not in AP - that's something to be happy about  It's just sitting waiting to be processed.

[DILAW 94]

1 hour ago, MMManoel said:

Greetings Everyone,

 

Exhausted and Discouraged!!

Applied l-30 for my husband  back in November 4th 2016.

 

It's been 10 months no response. I've called weekly, put in a service inquiry and spoke to TIER 2 supervisors back and forth.

 

I was told my application is not beyond processing time even though there are processing applications dated November 15, 2026. (I'm in month 10)

 

I was told that they will respond to my service inquiry by the 28th which is today. NOTHING no one has not been assigned to my husband case. I am an U.S Citzen my husband resides in Haiti.

 

Concern Wife

Any Suggestions???

I applied on December 26th 2016.  When I applied I was told the normal processing time is 6 months by a USCIS officer.  On April 17th I received a RFE and I responded to it on April 22.  I was told it takes 45 to 60 days for the USCIS to response to my RFE response.  After 60 days I never heard anything so I called.  When I called my case had been with the USCIS for 181 days and 62 days after my RFE response was received and being reviewed.  I spoke to an agent and I was told the normal processing time for my case which is a I-130 is not 9 months and the 60 days to response for the RFE was done by the USCIS.  I asked them how was the response or what was it and the agent told me "We updated your case and told you the response was received and that's the response. 

I got my senator involved as well as the congresswoman for my state.  They contacted the USCIS and were told my case was sent to the local USCIS office for review back on June 1st of this year.  I contacted the local USCIS and was told that I have around 150 people in front of me and my case will be scheduled for an interview in 90 to 120 days from July 18th which is the day I went to the local USCIS.  One friend is going through the same thing I am going through.  His case was submitted on December 14, 2016 to the USCIS (12 days before me).  His case was transferred to the local USCIS  in our city on June 14 (13 days after me) and last week, he was given an interview date of August 7 or 8.  My case was expedited when it was with the TSC and his case wasn't expedited.  How can he get an interview when his case was sent to the same local USCIS office 13 days after my case?  How did the USCIS officer I spoke to in the local USCIS office tell me there are 150 people in front of me when my friend got an interview and his case was transferred after me?  The same agent told me an I-130 case can't be expedited, so I showed him proof that my case was expedited when it was at the TSC.  He read it and then said "Here in this office we can't expedite it"  Its a USCIS office so how can the TSC expedite it but not the local office, but that's fine.  When I contacted my senator again, I was told the local office can expedite an I-130 case for emergency or financial hardship and they have had cases expedited in my local USCIS office.  The agent was either lying or he didn't know what he was talking about.

I am going to wait until August 11th and will try to go back on August 14th to see what's going on.  I will schedule interviews every 2 weeks after August 14th until I get an interview

I advise you to contact the senator and congressman/woman for your state for assistance.  Even if it does nothing, at least you are trying. 

I realized the system in the USA makes it easy for people the government wants let in and that's their decision.  I just don't like how they make it sound like its a fair system when its not.

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

6 minutes ago, DILAW said:

How can he get an interview when his case was sent to the same local USCIS office 13 days after my case?  How did the USCIS officer I spoke to in the local USCIS office tell me there are 150 people in front of me when my friend got an interview and his case was transferred after me? 

They are probably not being handled by the same IO. I believe they are not assigned cases one by one... since some cases might be on hold waiting for something once it's been started, the IO would start on another case etc... at any one point in time they are probably working on several cases... so you don't know the "other work" of the IO on your case..

Yes it sucks.. but it's also logical that that is how it works.

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I advise you to contact the senator and congressman/woman for your state for assistance.  Even if it does nothing, at least you are trying. 

I realized the system in the USA makes it easy for people the government wants let in and that's their decision.  I just don't like how they make it sound like its a fair system when its not.

I agree with both statements  I would do the same... and the result would most likely be a waste of time, but perhaps the OP will get some info about what's going on rather than waiting blindly - that's worth something

Edited July 28, 2017 by Suss&Camm

[DILAW 94]

29 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

They are probably not being handled by the same IO. I believe they are not assigned cases one by one... since some cases might be on hold waiting for something once it's been started, the IO would start on another case etc... at any one point in time they are probably working on several cases... so you don't know the "other work" of the IO on your case..

Yes it sucks.. but it's also logical that that is how it works.

I agree with both statements  I would do the same... and the result would most likely be a waste of time, but perhaps the OP will get some info about what's going on rather than waiting blindly - that's worth something

I completely understand and we (including myself) give these officers and the USCIS excuses to make ourselves feel better.  But if you think about it even the officers have supervisors and get rated on their performance.  If we call for a followup or schedule interviews to ask where our case is, then that officer gets a notification that he/she is behind especially when you tell them people that got transferred to your office 2 weeks after me are being interviewed and I haven't heard anything.  Its unfair if you ask me and I know I can argue that if the officer handling cases that need special processing procedures and it's not mine, then move mine to another officer to keep the cases first in first out.  Not fair that my case gets sent to an officer who has to wait on something for  another case while our cases that were sent after mine get processed.  Assign the cases to an officer who is ready to work on the case when its assigned.  I hope I hear before August 14th from them, but if not I will go in and tell them its not fair that my case was expedited at the TSC and now I sit back while people that got transferred after me by 2 weeks almost are done interviewing.  Why I have to suffer because of what my assigned officer is going through or his/her work ethic.  If there is a hold on on my case, then I have to live with that.  But don't push other individual who their case was sent after mine.

I worked for the government, so trust me I know how their work ethic is.

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

16 minutes ago, DILAW said:

I completely understand and we (including myself) give these officers and the USCIS excuses to make ourselves feel better.  But if you think about it even the officers have supervisors and get rated on their performance.  If we call for a followup or schedule interviews to ask where our case is, then that officer gets a notification that he/she is behind especially when you tell them people that got transferred to your office 2 weeks after me are being interviewed and I haven't heard anything.  Its unfair if you ask me and I know I can argue that if the officer handling cases that need special processing procedures and it's not mine, then move mine to another officer to keep the cases first in first out.  Not fair that my case gets sent to an officer who has to wait on something for  another case while our cases that were sent after mine get processed.  Assign the cases to an officer who is ready to work on the case when its assigned.  I hope I hear before August 14th from them, but if not I will go in and tell them its not fair that my case was expedited at the TSC and now I sit back while people that got transferred after me by 2 weeks almost are done interviewing.  Why I have to suffer because of what my assigned officer is going through or his/her work ethic.  If there is a hold on on my case, then I have to live with that.  But don't push other individual who their case was sent after mine.

I worked for the government, so trust me I know how their work ethic is.

I don't believe it is excuses, that's not why I posted it, it is the reality. It's easy to sit on the outside and judge someone who is working - do they make mistakes?? oh all the time, they are human, could the process be more streamlined? surely... but it is what it is and life isn't fair.

 

I don't believe they get a notification every time someone calls about the case. Not when it is still within processing times, as for the OP, but that is just my speculation.

 

You working for one branch of the government honestly says nothing about any other part of the government and "their work ethic". I get it that you are not happy with the time your case has been taking, but that is like saying all the people that work there are the same way which is a ridiculous notion really.

 

I really think that you are simplifying the process that they go through for each case, by saying that one case can just be moved to another officer (that already has a case load) and who keeps this constant watch on what cases are over due and more specifically the exact reason why one case is taking longer, cause that would have to be considered for each and every case that is taking long. At what point does one specific case with it's specific circumstances take too long compared to another case with totally different circumstances? - Would you like to work in an environment where you have someone constantly over your shoulder "are you done yet, are you done yet, explain why not??!!) - I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to keep many employees if that was the working conditions, and training new IO's is time and money (increased fees again??), and they would have to find ppl to put up with that sort of organization. I'm not saying it's ok to "slack off", but I'm saying it's a job that they do day in and day out and they are humans not robots. it's easy again to sit on the outside and have opinions. 

You can accept how it is or let it get to you and be upset about it every day.  

 

Anyhow, I wish you both good luck and that your processes will be over soon.

Edited July 28, 2017 by Suss&Camm

[DILAW 94]

55 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

I don't believe it is excuses, that's not why I posted it, it is the reality. It's easy to sit on the outside and judge someone who is working - do they make mistakes?? oh all the time, they are human, could the process be more streamlined? surely... but it is what it is and life isn't fair.

 

I don't believe they get a notification every time someone calls about the case. Not when it is still within processing times, as for the OP, but that is just my speculation.

 

You working for one branch of the government honestly says nothing about any other part of the government and "their work ethic". I get it that you are not happy with the time your case has been taking, but that is like saying all the people that work there are the same way which is a ridiculous notion really.

 

I really think that you are simplifying the process that they go through for each case, by saying that one case can just be moved to another officer (that already has a case load) and who keeps this constant watch on what cases are over due and more specifically the exact reason why one case is taking longer, cause that would have to be considered for each and every case that is taking long. At what point does one specific case with it's specific circumstances take too long compared to another case with totally different circumstances? - Would you like to work in an environment where you have someone constantly over your shoulder "are you done yet, are you done yet, explain why not??!!) - I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to keep many employees if that was the working conditions, and training new IO's is time and money (increased fees again??), and they would have to find ppl to put up with that sort of organization. I'm not saying it's ok to "slack off", but I'm saying it's a job that they do day in and day out and they are humans not robots. it's easy again to sit on the outside and have opinions. 

You can accept how it is or let it get to you and be upset about it every day.  

 

Anyhow, I wish you both good luck and that your processes will be over soon.

I worked for the department of defense and the postal service and almost all the managers I worked with were from the military both active and retired.  I can tell you 70% of them are lazy.  Job is secured and its almost impossible to get fired + they get a pension.  Private industry work ethic is different trust me.  Yeah, its not fair to assume everyone is like that, but what I saw is almost everyone is like that at the government.  When I went to the local USCIS office the person I spoke to was a veteran and you can tell by his movements that he's lazy.  I know for a fact that he told me 2 lies and he simply said when I showed him that the info he was passing to me was incorrect, he simply said "Hummm, didn't know that"

You can defend them all you want, but the fact is they are lazy.  I worked for 2 government entities and those were lazy I know.  Now I am dealing with another who seems lazy and they push the "normal processing time" whenever its reached.  If they would've told me 9 months from the beginning, trust me I would've waited the 9 months.  But it was 6 months up until I hit 181 days, then it became 9 months.

You say I am simplifying the process, but I am not.  I am saying change the process of how cases are handled.  Only assign a case when an available officer is ready to work on it.  Leave all the cases in one que.  It's like when you go to the airport and they have 1 big line that feeds 5 lines.  I always thought it was stupid to have the 5 mini lines at each TSA checkpoint.  Leave the 5 checkpoints, but only feed them first in first out from the big long que line.  You ever go to 1 of the "mini checkpoint lines" and then see another mini line moving faster?  I am not saying fire the TSA agents at a checkpoint.  Some people are faster and some are slower I understand.  If you going to hold me to extended period of time to search and inspect me, then that's fine, but why the person behind me has to suffer is what I am saying.

Here is how the senator clerk explained to me how the officers are assigned cases.  When an officer is done working on the cases they have, then go to the que and take a number of cases all at once like 10 or 15 or 20 and they go to work on them.  Once they are done with that batch, then they go and get another batch.  Embassies work the same way according to the immigration clerk that works for my senator.  Maybe its logical to you to have such a process and that's fine.  We don't have to agree on everything and I am human and I am upset with the way my case is taking this long. 

Edited July 28, 2017 by DILAW

[Crazy Cat 42,458]

1 hour ago, DILAW said:

 

I worked for the government, so trust me I know how their work ethic is.

You should be careful when using a broad brush to describe "them".  Perhaps you should review the number of cases received by US IS every month.

Edited July 28, 2017 by missileman

[DILAW 94]

You know I just looked at your time line and your whole process took 5 months from the submission to the approval.  You don't know the pain we are going through even if you read all the postings on these forums.  Its been 8 months and I am not done with the first step which is the USCIS.  You can give positive advises to anyone, but its tough for that someone going through their obstacle.  I still have at least 3.5 - 4 months at the NVC and another at least 1 -2 months at the embassy.  You don't know how it feels and this is my spouse, not a fiance which is worse.

[DILAW 94]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

You should be careful when using a broad brush to describe "them".  

I said 70% are lazy and I am being generous.  If you don't believe me, go to a USPS office, then go to a UPS office and see what I am talking about.  Its the same with unionized employees, they tend to be lazier than non unionized.  We can argue all day about this, but those are facts

[Crazy Cat 42,458]

"When I went to the local USCIS office the person I spoke to was a veteran and you can tell by his movements that he's lazy."

 

Total bs......

[Crazy Cat 42,458]

"We can argue all day about this, but those are facts"

Not facts.....just your opinion.....period

 

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

I worked for the department of defense and the postal service and almost all the managers I worked with were from the military both active and retired.  I can tell you 70% of them are lazy.

Take your word for that statistic? lol

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

  Job is secured and its almost impossible to get fired + they get a pension. 

ouch job security AND pension - yea that sucks, fire them if they slow down (sarcasm)

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

Private industry work ethic is different trust me.  Yeah, its not fair to assume everyone is like that, but what I saw is almost everyone is like that at the government.  When I went to the local USCIS office the person I spoke to was a veteran and you can tell by his movements that he's lazy.

You are really quick to judge ppl.. by his movements?? What do you know of his life up until then? oh right nothing..

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

  I know for a fact that he told me 2 lies and he simply said when I showed him that the info he was passing to me was incorrect, he simply said "Hummm, didn't know that"

I was also fed the wrong info by an IO at an infopass - annoying yes, agreed

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

You can defend them all you want, but the fact is they are lazy. 

I'll say it again... I'm not "defending" them... I'm seeing it for what it is.. am I going to change how it works?? are you?? no - so what's the point getting all upset about it... you're the only one feeling bad cause of that.. I'm just being realistic..

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

I worked for 2 government entities and those were lazy I know.  Now I am dealing with another who seem lazy and they push the "normal processing time" whenever its reached.  If they would've told me 9 months from the beginning, trust me I wouldve waited the 9 months.  But it was 6 months up until I hit 181 days, then it became 9 months.

You applied at a point when the number of applications surged... This was anticipated... they can't process more with the same staff just cause of that.. It takes time and money and staff resources (again) to train new staff...

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

You say I am simplifying the process, but I am not.  I am saying change the process of how cases are handled.  Only assign a case when an available officer is ready to work on it.  Leave all the cases in one que.  It's like when you go to the airport and they have 1 big line that feeds 5 lines.  I always thought it was stupid to have the 5 mini lines at each TSA checkpoint.  Leave the 5 checkpoints, but only feed them first in first out from the big long que line.  You ever go to 1 of the "mini checkpoint lines" and then see another mini line moving faster?  I am not saying first the TSA agents at a checkpoint.  Some people are faster and some are slower I understand.  If you going to hold me to extended period of time to search and inspect me, then that's fine, but why the person behind me has to suffer is what I am saying.

Yes I heard you - I realize that this is what you are saying.... but you didn't read the statements above as to why that is difficult to do - It's not an airport line or a grocery check out...

 

Scenario.. IO picks up case.. starts working on it... hits a road block... needs to request something or something needs verification or an rfe is sent out.. IO also has 5 other cases that are already partially processed in the same way.

IO gets new case from line - no road block - processes fine - done.. gets another case... while working on it gets an rfe response.. another case gets a response from background check.. etc etc... do you see why your check out line scenario doesn't work yet??

 

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

Here is how the senator clerk explained to me how the officers are assigned cases.  When an officer is done working on the cases they have, then go to the que and take a number of cases all at once like 10 or 15 or 20 and they go to work on them.  Once they are done with that batch, then they go and get another batch.  Embassies work the same way according to the immigration clerk that works for my senator. 

Which is what I have been saying.. and how most organizations that handle cases involving people's different circumstances work..

 

3 minutes ago, DILAW said:

Maybe its logical to you to have such a process and that's fine.  We don't have to agree on everything and I am human and I am upset with the way my case is taking this long. 

No you are right we don't have to agree... but in the end who is less stressed out? I'm trying to tell you , you are only losing by staying upset... take the advise or leave it

 

Now that's my last addition to this thread, again, I hope you'll both see progress soon (and I believe you will)

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

6 minutes ago, DILAW said:

You know I just looked at your time line and your whole process took 5 months from the submission to the approval.  You don't know the pain we are going through even if you read all the postings on these forums.  Its been 8 months and I am not done with the first step which is the USCIS.  You can give positive advises to anyone, but its tough for that someone going through their obstacle.  I still have at least 3.5 - 4 months at the NVC and another at least 1 -2 months at the embassy.  You don't know how it feels and this is my spouse, not a fiance which is worse.

I think we've established in this thread that I'm not the not able to walk in other ppl's shoes.

[Crazy Cat 42,458]

Good luck to everyone in this thread.  I wish you all the very best in this journey.