Overcoming "Red Flags"---HOW????

[Going through 5,671]

Another red flag is that you have petitioned someone else for a K1 visa before (the spouse from Morocco).  The age thing wasn't just that you are older than him...it's that it's not the cultural norm in Islamic countries for the WIFE to be 16 years older.  It does happen, of course, and age can't be the only reason they deny someone, and religious differences can't be the only reason they deny someone....but when you combine all of the red flags your case has....including the multiple divorces and previous petitioning of another spouse not too long before your petition for your current spouse (I remember your story from other threads)...makes it very difficult for you, I'm afraid.

[Love To Teach 161]

I guess the only thing we can do is for me to keep visiting. Business partners? haha I have nothing to do with the businesses. It was just another way to prove that we are a couple. He is constantly begging me to come live there, or when I retire, for both of us to move to another country. We just live one day at a time and know that we are an honest loving couple. He is very "westernized" in that he has lived in the UK while taking classes (long time ago), traveled extensively, etc., so he isn't really that traditional. Immigration shouldn't always go by what is "cultural" in his country. It's really dumb, especially when the guy is 50+. Anyway, I'm not ashamed of my past, everybody makes mistakes, learns, and moves on. Being a teacher all these years should show that I have stability, especially compared with others who get their visas and don't have jobs, are really young, etc. I really think the interviewer from his country actually gets his kicks from being cruel to his countrymen. Makes me wonder if he's jealous.

[Love To Teach 161]

26 minutes ago, Going through said:

Another red flag is that you have petitioned someone else for a K1 visa before (the spouse from Morocco).  The age thing wasn't just that you are older than him...it's that it's not the cultural norm in Islamic countries for the WIFE to be 16 years older.  It does happen, of course, and age can't be the only reason they deny someone, and religious differences can't be the only reason they deny someone....but when you combine all of the red flags your case has....including the multiple divorces and previous petitioning of another spouse not too long before your petition for your current spouse (I remember your story from other threads)...makes it very difficult for you, I'm afraid.

Hi---Just to clarify, I was only with the Moroccan 2 years, and he took his time signing divorce papers. We were separated a long time. I petitioned for my husband 4.5 years after divorcing the Moroccan, so these two petitions were 8 years apart. 

[Boiler 45,516]

The best evidence is time living together, if you can show you are stable, established then that will really help with the other issues.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Since he wants you to move to Pakistan and you are now denied the visa to the states, why not just move to him?

[Going through 5,671]

1 hour ago, Love To Teach said:

Hi---Just to clarify, I was only with the Moroccan 2 years, and he took his time signing divorce papers. We were separated a long time. I petitioned for my husband 4.5 years after divorcing the Moroccan, so these two petitions were 8 years apart. 

My mistake then, I thought it was sooner.  

Were the other two spouses before the Moroccan and your current husband petitioned as well?  If so, they may think it's a pattern?

[caliliving 606]

2 hours ago, Love To Teach said:

Hi---Just to clarify, I was only with the Moroccan 2 years, and he took his time signing divorce papers. We were separated a long time. I petitioned for my husband 4.5 years after divorcing the Moroccan, so these two petitions were 8 years apart. 

Wow!!! You got very lucky w a k1!

[Michael2017 368]

In my opinion, they do not trust him. They think that he is pretending something, and looking at your past, with the other spouse you petitioned, and the divorces, they think you may be "easy to convince" or have a habit of fast marriage. Without knowing more, and without wanting to offend you, this seems what is on their mind. So, in my opinion, you have following options:

 

a) Spend much more time together and visit more often. Collect all the evidence that you actually live as his wife there,

and that his family, friends and everyone around him knows about you and it is public.

I still think this could still not be enough as they will not easily change their mind. This could also take a very long time.

 

b) Go and live together with your husband in a third country. 

There are nice countries which have less stringent visa requirements, have great health care and lsuper iving standard.

 

I can tell you that as for my wife and me, we would not want to be apart. If our visa gets not approved, we would give up our "american dream" the next day and move to another country, buy a house there and live together. USA is not the only nice place on this earth. It is not a magical place, more important than your husband. 

At least for us, our relationship is 100x more important compared to the country we live in and we would just continue to love each other somewhere else:)

Edited July 23, 2017 by Michael2017

[Crazy Cat 41,857]

Move to Pakistan.  Live there with your husband for a few years.  That should demonstrate a bona fide marriage despite the red flags you mentioned.

[Michael2017 368]

3 minutes ago, missileman said:

Move to Pakistan.  Live there with your husband for a few years.  That should demonstrate a bona fide marriage despite the red flags you mentioned.

There are places like Dubai, that have great healthcare, good living standards and have very easy visa requirements. So, even living together in such a 3rd country would not be that bad. There are schools that need teachers, and he can run his business from a tax free environment... Just my 2 cents.

[Dianalorena 1,153]

20 hours ago, Love To Teach said:

Thanks for the kind words, Dilorena...I have 4 divorces (2 when I was really young (1 had a girlfriend; 1 went back to drugs; then married for 23 years--we let it die, then he didn't want to try to fix it; last one was k-1 Moroccan I brought her, was abusive--I have proof). I admit my track record isn't great. That's why I didn't rush into marrying my current husband. And I sure can't fix previous divorces.

 

I have 7 trips to visit him, have known him 6.5 years. I am 16 years older than him. He has 1 divorce, 4 great kids (2 finished college, 1 in college, 1 finishing high school). I have no kids. We had more than 6 pounds of evidence. We both are educated. I have been a teacher for 43 years (that should count for stability). He has a tour business and an export business. We co-own a business, have joint credit cards and bank accounts in several countries, he is in my will, had letters from family and friends, his family is very happy for us. I'm Christian, he's Muslim. We believe in one God, so it's not a big deal. I feel like we are being judged on cultural issues that are 50 years old, and not such a big deal here in the US. It makes me think they didn't even look at our evidence. 

 

The only things I can think of is to keep visiting, getting more letters. I can't change the past.

No judgement at all here, I get that love starts and ends, but 4 divorces is a big number, especially if one of them is a K1. With a previous immigration processing you're facing extra scrutiny as it is, plus all the added factors. Having said that, the 7 trips and the time that you have known each other are good things, but even though we can't change our pasts like you said, it can come to bite us in the butt especially in a delicate immigration process were people are trained to spot red flags, and during very sensitive political times regarding immigrants overall. -Numerous divorces, age difference, muslim background  I get why got denied, even if I don't doubt that your relationship is real. (I  don't)  Have you considered living together in his country for a while and trying again later? I know it's not an ideal solution, but it might show the intent to stick together, not just because of ''wanting'' to live in the U.S. I truly wish you the best of lucks!

[Going through 5,671]

9 minutes ago, Dilorena said:

Have you considered living together in his country for a while and trying again later? I know it's not an ideal solution, but it might show the intent to stick together, not just because of ''wanting'' to live in the U.S.

THIS is key.  Seriously.  Even  your own husband, OP, is begging for you to move to Pakistan with him (your own words)...Obviously his love for you is greater than his love for the US.  Go and live in Pakistan with him (you said he has two successful businesses, so he can support you until you find work of your own...plus you would have your teacher's pension) and use that time to continue to gather the concrete proof that you are without a doubt in a bonafide physically-together relationship for a year or so, and then reapply to bring him over after that should you choose.

 

You want to overcome all the red flags?  This is a sure-fire way to do it.

Edited July 23, 2017 by Going through

[Crazy Cat 41,857]

14 minutes ago, Dilorena said:

Have you considered living together in his country for a while and trying again later? I know it's not an ideal solution, but it might show the intent to stick together, not just because of ''wanting'' to live in the U.S.

^^THIS^^

[Crazy Cat 41,857]

7 minutes ago, Going through said:

You want to overcome all the red flags?  This is a sure-fire way to do it

^^^ and THIS^^

[Ryan H 3,812]

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