Issues and Problems

[peezey 0]

I think you should stress in your appeals GENDER BIAS. I think from what I am reading is that you have a clear case of GENDER BIAS.

From what i am seeing, there needs to be a tally of all denied visas and how many of them were women petitioning men. I think its clearly gender bias and if thebooks were opened, it will show that they are denying women on a much higer level. What drives me the craziest is the marriage brokers funneling women in and out of south america, the dominican republic and russia and there is no way most of these women speak english or are getting the drilling that you are getting. I really feel sorry for you and all of these women struggling against the obvious gender bias that is being dished out. If you are white, female and older than the beneficiary, then you can expect for people not to believe you love or are in love and then you have truckloads of mail order brides getting in here that I am SURE do not know half the things you know about your spouse... AND YOU ARE LIVING THERE FOR GODS SAKE. ThIS IS NUTS

But if the marriage is against local custom, how can you play the gender bias card?

Simple, you can't.

[peezey 0]

who dictates what local custom is? Is it local custom in the philipines to marry someone 58 when you are 28? Its happening and the women are getting papers. Russian marriage agencies? Happening..huge age disparity and these girls know very little about the men they are meeting...

And its only a card you are playing if you are the one with your life getting destroyed by other peoples preconceived ideas about who is allowed to love and not. And by the way, I am not talking about my case. I havent even gotten an AO2. I am talking about basic fundamental gender bias that is being perpetuated against women in the immigrations system. Especially when you have a couple LIVING TOGETHER and they are telling her its not a real marriage and then these marriage brokers have russian babe parties and fly truckloads of men over there and these girls are getting their visas while you have women MARRIED to men and some of them living with them that cannot get papers..

IF THEY SET UP A MARRIAGE AGENCY FOR WOMEN TO FIND MEN LIKE THESE MEN GET>>> BOY OH BOY\\

think i am off

google russian brides, columbian women,etc

if thats fair.. that these guys can " pick a chick", work the system and get a lawyer all on one site and then get them here 1 2 3. something is very very very wrong

You can't be serious with this question. Of course it's normal for younger women to marry older men in every fricking culture on the planet. Who decides what's culturally acceptable? The local people, for one. To impose your idea of how things should be on another culture doesn't bode well for your future with a mena man, let me tell you.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

who dictates what local custom is? Is it local custom in the philipines to marry someone 58 when you are 28? Its happening and the women are getting papers. Russian marriage agencies? Happening..huge age disparity and these girls know very little about the men they are meeting...

And its only a card you are playing if you are the one with your life getting destroyed by other peoples preconceived ideas about who is allowed to love and not. And by the way, I am not talking about my case. I havent even gotten an AO2. I am talking about basic fundamental gender bias that is being perpetuated against women in the immigrations system. Especially when you have a couple LIVING TOGETHER and they are telling her its not a real marriage and then these marriage brokers have russian babe parties and fly truckloads of men over there and these girls are getting their visas while you have women MARRIED to men and some of them living with them that cannot get papers..

IF THEY SET UP A MARRIAGE AGENCY FOR WOMEN TO FIND MEN LIKE THESE MEN GET>>> BOY OH BOY\\

think i am off

google russian brides, columbian women,etc

if thats fair.. that these guys can " pick a chick", work the system and get a lawyer all on one site and then get them here 1 2 3. something is very very very wrong

You can't be serious with this question. Of course it's normal for younger women to marry older men in every fricking culture on the planet. Who decides what's culturally acceptable? The local people, for one. To impose your idea of how things should be on another culture doesn't bode well for your future with a mena man, let me tell you.

I want to tell you that in 1911 my great grandmother from Ireland married a 27 year old and she had her first baby at 41, her second at 43 and her third at 45.

Second, I will not argue with you your points but age is no guarantee..

I have countless american female friends who were younger than their spouses from Morocco who are now divorced

25 and 18

30 20

and on and on and on

One was within 2 years of the other and they divorced 2 months after he got his citizenship

Then I know women who are older that have kids with the men and are happy. My point is that I feel that there is a huge gender bias and I think these women are being put through a lot more than the men as far as I am concerned. I also think that the women are being hit harder in many ways. Wrong or right. The facts speak for themselves. If a man is going to take a woman for a ride for papers, he wil do it with younger women too. I personally know 3 Moroccan men who dumped their younger american wives as soon as they got papers and married Moroccan women from back home ( I get to meet alot of moroccans cause of the disney thing) I think its unfair to beat up on these older american women for their age and say that there is no way their relationships are legitamate when there are busloads of American men arriving for mail order bride parties and I doubt that these girls are put through half of what Aicha has been through. I dont know her personally and again the whole things has not affected me

As far as MENA man? Algerians and Moroccans and Tunisians and Egyptians all have very very different personalities. These differences exist even within Algeria with the west being very open... concerts rai music... most of Moroccos and Algerian popular music comes out of WAHRAN and I will tell you there is a huge difference between even parts of Morocco and Algeria and each family has its own dislikes and likes. I would never stick my face into someone elses relationship and start passing judgements. A 40 year old who takes care of herself and is vibrant and sexy is going to be more attractive than a younger woman who doesnt. Agism isnt just being practiced by some of these authorities. Its the idea that some how we have the right to judge other peoples lives.. their love lives based on age and gender..I know multiple friends of mine who are Moroccan here in the USA involved with older woman and THEY HAVE THEIR PAPERS. Its a personal choice and not fair to lump any group together. AGain , I do not know AIcha.. I just feel for her .. thats all

[peezey 0]

who dictates what local custom is? Is it local custom in the philipines to marry someone 58 when you are 28? Its happening and the women are getting papers. Russian marriage agencies? Happening..huge age disparity and these girls know very little about the men they are meeting...

And its only a card you are playing if you are the one with your life getting destroyed by other peoples preconceived ideas about who is allowed to love and not. And by the way, I am not talking about my case. I havent even gotten an AO2. I am talking about basic fundamental gender bias that is being perpetuated against women in the immigrations system. Especially when you have a couple LIVING TOGETHER and they are telling her its not a real marriage and then these marriage brokers have russian babe parties and fly truckloads of men over there and these girls are getting their visas while you have women MARRIED to men and some of them living with them that cannot get papers..

IF THEY SET UP A MARRIAGE AGENCY FOR WOMEN TO FIND MEN LIKE THESE MEN GET>>> BOY OH BOY\\

think i am off

google russian brides, columbian women,etc

if thats fair.. that these guys can " pick a chick", work the system and get a lawyer all on one site and then get them here 1 2 3. something is very very very wrong

You can't be serious with this question. Of course it's normal for younger women to marry older men in every fricking culture on the planet. Who decides what's culturally acceptable? The local people, for one. To impose your idea of how things should be on another culture doesn't bode well for your future with a mena man, let me tell you.

I want to tell you that in 1911 my great grandmother from Ireland married a 27 year old and she had her first baby at 41, her second at 43 and her third at 45.

Second, I will not argue with you your points but age is no guarantee..

I have countless american female friends who were younger than their spouses from Morocco who are now divorced

25 and 18

30 20

and on and on and on

One was within 2 years of the other and they divorced 2 months after he got his citizenship

Then I know women who are older that have kids with the men and are happy. My point is that I feel that there is a huge gender bias and I think these women are being put through a lot more than the men as far as I am concerned. I also think that the women are being hit harder in many ways. Wrong or right. The facts speak for themselves. If a man is going to take a woman for a ride for papers, he wil do it with younger women too. I personally know 3 Moroccan men who dumped their younger american wives as soon as they got papers and married Moroccan women from back home ( I get to meet alot of moroccans cause of the disney thing) I think its unfair to beat up on these older american women for their age and say that there is no way their relationships are legitamate when there are busloads of American men arriving for mail order bride parties and I doubt that these girls are put through half of what Aicha has been through. I dont know her personally and again the whole things has not affected me

As far as MENA man? Algerians and Moroccans and Tunisians and Egyptians all have very very different personalities. These differences exist even within Algeria with the west being very open... concerts rai music... most of Moroccos and Algerian popular music comes out of WAHRAN and I will tell you there is a huge difference between even parts of Morocco and Algeria and each family has its own dislikes and likes. I would never stick my face into someone elses relationship and start passing judgements. A 40 year old who takes care of herself and is vibrant and sexy is going to be more attractive than a younger woman who doesnt. Agism isnt just being practiced by some of these authorities. Its the idea that some how we have the right to judge other peoples lives.. their love lives based on age and gender..I know multiple friends of mine who are Moroccan here in the USA involved with older woman and THEY HAVE THEIR PAPERS. Its a personal choice and not fair to lump any group together. AGain , I do not know AIcha.. I just feel for her .. thats all

Uh huh. Exceptions are very few and far between in the US let alone in maghreb. And rai was illegal in Algeria not that many years ago, so the picture you are painting is not based on history, but on your own recent limited experience. How many chebbis have fled, been put in jail, or otherwise persecuted (since you are the expert)?

Edited April 22, 2007 by peezey

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

who dictates what local custom is? Is it local custom in the philipines to marry someone 58 when you are 28? Its happening and the women are getting papers. Russian marriage agencies? Happening..huge age disparity and these girls know very little about the men they are meeting...

And its only a card you are playing if you are the one with your life getting destroyed by other peoples preconceived ideas about who is allowed to love and not. And by the way, I am not talking about my case. I havent even gotten an AO2. I am talking about basic fundamental gender bias that is being perpetuated against women in the immigrations system. Especially when you have a couple LIVING TOGETHER and they are telling her its not a real marriage and then these marriage brokers have russian babe parties and fly truckloads of men over there and these girls are getting their visas while you have women MARRIED to men and some of them living with them that cannot get papers..

IF THEY SET UP A MARRIAGE AGENCY FOR WOMEN TO FIND MEN LIKE THESE MEN GET>>> BOY OH BOY\\

think i am off

google russian brides, columbian women,etc

if thats fair.. that these guys can " pick a chick", work the system and get a lawyer all on one site and then get them here 1 2 3. something is very very very wrong

You can't be serious with this question. Of course it's normal for younger women to marry older men in every fricking culture on the planet. Who decides what's culturally acceptable? The local people, for one. To impose your idea of how things should be on another culture doesn't bode well for your future with a mena man, let me tell you.

I want to tell you that in 1911 my great grandmother from Ireland married a 27 year old and she had her first baby at 41, her second at 43 and her third at 45.

Second, I will not argue with you your points but age is no guarantee..

I have countless american female friends who were younger than their spouses from Morocco who are now divorced

25 and 18

30 20

and on and on and on

One was within 2 years of the other and they divorced 2 months after he got his citizenship

Then I know women who are older that have kids with the men and are happy. My point is that I feel that there is a huge gender bias and I think these women are being put through a lot more than the men as far as I am concerned. I also think that the women are being hit harder in many ways. Wrong or right. The facts speak for themselves. If a man is going to take a woman for a ride for papers, he wil do it with younger women too. I personally know 3 Moroccan men who dumped their younger american wives as soon as they got papers and married Moroccan women from back home ( I get to meet alot of moroccans cause of the disney thing) I think its unfair to beat up on these older american women for their age and say that there is no way their relationships are legitamate when there are busloads of American men arriving for mail order bride parties and I doubt that these girls are put through half of what Aicha has been through. I dont know her personally and again the whole things has not affected me

As far as MENA man? Algerians and Moroccans and Tunisians and Egyptians all have very very different personalities. These differences exist even within Algeria with the west being very open... concerts rai music... most of Moroccos and Algerian popular music comes out of WAHRAN and I will tell you there is a huge difference between even parts of Morocco and Algeria and each family has its own dislikes and likes. I would never stick my face into someone elses relationship and start passing judgements. A 40 year old who takes care of herself and is vibrant and sexy is going to be more attractive than a younger woman who doesnt. Agism isnt just being practiced by some of these authorities. Its the idea that some how we have the right to judge other peoples lives.. their love lives based on age and gender..I know multiple friends of mine who are Moroccan here in the USA involved with older woman and THEY HAVE THEIR PAPERS. Its a personal choice and not fair to lump any group together. AGain , I do not know AIcha.. I just feel for her .. thats all

Uh huh. Exceptions are very few and far between in the US let alone in maghreb. And rai was illegal in Algeria not that many years ago, so the picture you are painting is not based on history, but on your own recent limited experience. How many chebbis have fled, been put in jail, or otherwise persecuted (since you are the expert)?

I will not argue your points. In conventional wisdom, yes. I just think that what is happening to these women is very unfair. That is my opnion and I stand behind it. Secondly, my experience is not limited, I have been to Algeria multiple times and lived among them here and abroad. Each person is very different and I have seen true love between people of differing ages. Each person is different. And rai was never illegal in ORAN.. They may have had problems in the past but ORAN is a very open minded place..

You are correct in many of your statements and assumptions. I just do not think its fair to lump Algerians, Moroccans ,Berbers and middle easterners all in one pile.I say live and let live and age is no guarantee of a real relationship.....all you have to do is track relationships past the citizenship stage and then you will see perhaps what I am talking about.. age isnt the only issue in the dismantling of these relationships. Religion can play a huge factor, family disapproval etc

[mybackpages 0]

The one fact that can not be danced around is that statistically speaking one characteristic occuring frequently in fraud cases is the eistence of a large age gap. If you are a legitimate couple with a large age gap then your case will be lilkely to be scutinized more closely not that you are more likely to receive the denial.

[peezey 0]

I will not argue your points. In conventional wisdom, yes. I just think that what is happening to these women is very unfair. That is my opnion and I stand behind it. Secondly, my experience is not limited, I have been to Algeria multiple times and lived among them here and abroad. Each person is very different and I have seen true love between people of differing ages. Each person is different. And rai was never illegal in ORAN.. They may have had problems in the past but ORAN is a very open minded place..

You are correct in many of your statements and assumptions. I just do not think its fair to lump Algerians, Moroccans ,Berbers and middle easterners all in one pile.I say live and let live and age is no guarantee of a real relationship.....all you have to do is track relationships past the citizenship stage and then you will see perhaps what I am talking about.. age isnt the only issue in the dismantling of these relationships. Religion can play a huge factor, family disapproval etc

If you don't know that Rai & Rai singers were illegal in Algeria not that long ago,, you don't know squat.

Oran is open? Like when Hasni was gunned down in the street in Oran?

I know very well amazigh, maghrebi, arabs can be different, but it's not the norm, and for you to think a consulate should make decisions based off non-traditional relationships without question, you are naive.

Edited April 22, 2007 by peezey

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I will not argue your points. In conventional wisdom, yes. I just think that what is happening to these women is very unfair. That is my opnion and I stand behind it. Secondly, my experience is not limited, I have been to Algeria multiple times and lived among them here and abroad. Each person is very different and I have seen true love between people of differing ages. Each person is different. And rai was never illegal in ORAN.. They may have had problems in the past but ORAN is a very open minded place..

You are correct in many of your statements and assumptions. I just do not think its fair to lump Algerians, Moroccans ,Berbers and middle easterners all in one pile.I say live and let live and age is no guarantee of a real relationship.....all you have to do is track relationships past the citizenship stage and then you will see perhaps what I am talking about.. age isnt the only issue in the dismantling of these relationships. Religion can play a huge factor, family disapproval etc

If you don't know that Rai & Rai singers were illegal in Algeria not that long ago,, you don't know squat.

I know very well amazigh, maghrebi, arabs can be different, but it's not the norm, and for you to think a consulate should make decisions based off non-traditional relationships without question, you are naive.

I said in ORAN not ALGERIA. RAI is the music played in all weddings and was born out wedding music judeo arabic wedding music. For a few years in the 1990s, rai was not performed live but it still was played. Being that I am personal friends with about 5 very famous rai singers and I write about rai for the media, I guess I don't know anything. I am absolutely sure you are not married to an Algerian.. and the reason I know this is there were 100,000 killed in algeria during the 1990's but Oran was largely spared this. Cheb Hasni and Cheb Aziz were killed but many more kept a low profile during the hardest years but were still very beloved. this has nothing to do with the topic and I am just going to tell you I am naive, stupid, dont know anything about North Africa and that you are correct.I have actually been in ORAN.. I doubt you have as many westerners including Moroccans have not been there. It is the birthplace of RAI and even in the darkest hours of the turmoil of Algeria, ORAN remained a joyous place.

Don't teach me about ALGERIA or RAI or the North African Area. And dont tell me what is happening to these women is warranted or fair by culture or any other standard. People have a right to love who they want to love. And if you are not walking in their shoes, which you are not being that you are in the naturalization process, its not your right to judge or play jury. Just let them be and let them talk about their feelings. I guess I don't know squat. you know what the media tells you. Islamists murdered and slaughtered rai singers but they did not squelch it. It may have been illegal to play on the radio for a while, but it always danced in the hearts of Oranis and was played in the cars and in private parties.

I dont know anything about culture second hand. I have made my own conclusions based on what I have seen and known and time time I spent in North Africa and with Algerians world wide over the last 6 years.

You turned my defense of this woman into an attack on me. Where you get off telling me I dont know about Algerian music or history is beyond me.

by the way its CHEBS not chebbis

[peezey 0]

I will not argue your points. In conventional wisdom, yes. I just think that what is happening to these women is very unfair. That is my opnion and I stand behind it. Secondly, my experience is not limited, I have been to Algeria multiple times and lived among them here and abroad. Each person is very different and I have seen true love between people of differing ages. Each person is different. And rai was never illegal in ORAN.. They may have had problems in the past but ORAN is a very open minded place..

You are correct in many of your statements and assumptions. I just do not think its fair to lump Algerians, Moroccans ,Berbers and middle easterners all in one pile.I say live and let live and age is no guarantee of a real relationship.....all you have to do is track relationships past the citizenship stage and then you will see perhaps what I am talking about.. age isnt the only issue in the dismantling of these relationships. Religion can play a huge factor, family disapproval etc

If you don't know that Rai & Rai singers were illegal in Algeria not that long ago,, you don't know squat.

I know very well amazigh, maghrebi, arabs can be different, but it's not the norm, and for you to think a consulate should make decisions based off non-traditional relationships without question, you are naive.

I said in ORAN not ALGERIA. RAI is the music played in all weddings and was born out wedding music judeo arabic wedding music. For a few years in the 1990s, rai was not performed live but it still was played. Being that I am personal friends with about 5 very famous rai singers and I write about rai for the media, I guess I don't know anything. I am absolutely sure you are not married to an Algerian.. and the reason I know this is there were 100,000 killed in algeria during the 1990's but Oran was largely spared this. Cheb Hasni and Cheb Aziz were killed but many more kept a low profile during the hardest years but were still very beloved. this has nothing to do with the topic and I am just going to tell you I am naive, stupid, dont know anything about North Africa and that you are correct.I have actually been in ORAN.. I doubt you have as many westerners including Moroccans have not been there. It is the birthplace of RAI and even in the darkest hours of the turmoil of Algeria, ORAN remained a joyous place.

Don't teach me about ALGERIA or RAI or the North African Area. And dont tell me what is happening to these women is warranted or fair by culture or any other standard. People have a right to love who they want to love. And if you are not walking in their shoes, which you are not being that you are in the naturalization process, its not your right to judge or play jury. Just let them be and let them talk about their feelings. I guess I don't know squat. you know what the media tells you. Islamists murdered and slaughtered rai singers but they did not squelch it. It may have been illegal to play on the radio for a while, but it always danced in the hearts of Oranis and was played in the cars and in private parties.

I dont know anything about culture second hand. I have made my own conclusions based on what I have seen and known and time time I spent in North Africa and with Algerians world wide over the last 6 years.

You turned my defense of this woman into an attack on me. Where you get off telling me I dont know about Algerian music or history is beyond me.

by the way its CHEBS not chebbis

Algeria sounds so romantic. Should we have a transliteration lesson?

You insist this is gender bias. It is not. You don't know anything about my process, but I can tell you I certainly didn't think I was owed any kind of visa for my husband the way you seem to.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

transliteration....um....um

ok for 500 I will take North African wedding singers

um speaking of North african wedding singers.....

CHEIKHA FATIMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKVZNhXtO8

um...... ummmmmmm....ummmmm

PEEZY... I am a ALBERT CAMUS and FRANTZ FANON and SARTRE GIRL

um... getting existentialist with it

uha hahahahhahahahhah ( sung to getting jiggy with it)

right or wrong... I hope aicha gets her visa for her man... GO AICHA GO.

the guys with the 20 years younger women are doing it.. YOU GO GIRL

as far as you PEEZY? Who uses words like transliteration anyway except in term papers or in thesis statements? This is board not contest of who is right. Its not my guy anyway. I just was holding a candle for aicha and all the underdogs..

Hey here is another ALGERIAN WEDDING SINGER

CHEIKHA RIMITTI died last year at 83

you go girl dont let these young chicks call you an old hag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7EViaMRjwI...ted&search=

[meauxna 15]

Who uses words like transliteration anyway except in term papers or in thesis statements?

It's actually used commonly on immigration discussion boards. There's quite a bit of that when dealing with the many 'alphabets' of the world...

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I will not argue your points. In conventional wisdom, yes. I just think that what is happening to these women is very unfair. That is my opnion and I stand behind it. Secondly, my experience is not limited, I have been to Algeria multiple times and lived among them here and abroad. Each person is very different and I have seen true love between people of differing ages. Each person is different. And rai was never illegal in ORAN.. They may have had problems in the past but ORAN is a very open minded place..

You are correct in many of your statements and assumptions. I just do not think its fair to lump Algerians, Moroccans ,Berbers and middle easterners all in one pile.I say live and let live and age is no guarantee of a real relationship.....all you have to do is track relationships past the citizenship stage and then you will see perhaps what I am talking about.. age isnt the only issue in the dismantling of these relationships. Religion can play a huge factor, family disapproval etc

If you don't know that Rai & Rai singers were illegal in Algeria not that long ago,, you don't know squat.

I know very well amazigh, maghrebi, arabs can be different, but it's not the norm, and for you to think a consulate should make decisions based off non-traditional relationships without question, you are naive.

I said in ORAN not ALGERIA. RAI is the music played in all weddings and was born out wedding music judeo arabic wedding music. For a few years in the 1990s, rai was not performed live but it still was played. Being that I am personal friends with about 5 very famous rai singers and I write about rai for the media, I guess I don't know anything. I am absolutely sure you are not married to an Algerian.. and the reason I know this is there were 100,000 killed in algeria during the 1990's but Oran was largely spared this. Cheb Hasni and Cheb Aziz were killed but many more kept a low profile during the hardest years but were still very beloved. this has nothing to do with the topic and I am just going to tell you I am naive, stupid, dont know anything about North Africa and that you are correct.I have actually been in ORAN.. I doubt you have as many westerners including Moroccans have not been there. It is the birthplace of RAI and even in the darkest hours of the turmoil of Algeria, ORAN remained a joyous place.

Don't teach me about ALGERIA or RAI or the North African Area. And dont tell me what is happening to these women is warranted or fair by culture or any other standard. People have a right to love who they want to love. And if you are not walking in their shoes, which you are not being that you are in the naturalization process, its not your right to judge or play jury. Just let them be and let them talk about their feelings. I guess I don't know squat. you know what the media tells you. Islamists murdered and slaughtered rai singers but they did not squelch it. It may have been illegal to play on the radio for a while, but it always danced in the hearts of Oranis and was played in the cars and in private parties.

I dont know anything about culture second hand. I have made my own conclusions based on what I have seen and known and time time I spent in North Africa and with Algerians world wide over the last 6 years.

You turned my defense of this woman into an attack on me. Where you get off telling me I dont know about Algerian music or history is beyond me.

by the way its CHEBS not chebbis

Algeria sounds so romantic. Should we have a transliteration lesson?

You insist this is gender bias. It is not. You don't know anything about my process, but I can tell you I certainly didn't think I was owed any kind of visa for my husband the way you seem to.

ITS ROMANTIC AS HECK AND HAS THE BEST MUSIC... ORAN IS THE PLACE WHERE ALL RAI WAS BORN

Moroccans adore RAI RAI RAI RAI

and its from ALGERIA ALGERIA ALGERIA ( except for OUJDA RAI which is pretty awesome

twahask tek bezef al aljazair

TRANSLITERATION

hhahhahahhahahahha

hahhahhahahahaha

or mdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr which is dying of laughing in darja....gees

go aicha go...

get your mans papers

live your life and fight for your happiness girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LFJY3tX9TE aicha for aicha......algerian cheb khaled

[mybackpages 0]

Who uses words like transliteration anyway except in term papers or in thesis statements?

It's actually used commonly on immigration discussion boards. There's quite a bit of that when dealing with the many 'alphabets' of the world...

You beat me to it Meauxna. Just wait for security name check time!

[meauxna 15]

Who uses words like transliteration anyway except in term papers or in thesis statements?

It's actually used commonly on immigration discussion boards. There's quite a bit of that when dealing with the many 'alphabets' of the world...

You beat me to it Meauxna. Just wait for security name check time!

Excellent example--I wasn't even thinking that far ahead, but that is where the real consequences are!

yikes.

[aicha 0]

Okay - enough said - I tried and my point was still not understood. And yes - I was at the interview and seh is correct - the CO here does not allow the USC into the interview - they do not even allow you to wait by security.

I want to know one thing. Do you think the cards were stacked against you before he even got in there? If thats the case, why do they even send people approvals if evidence does not matter?

her husband said he found her by searching the yahoo directory looking for American women. And they commnicate with charades and a friend translating. No one outside the two of them stacked anything up against them.

Okay - let me correct you here - My hsuband said he was looking for women to talk to by searching the member directory - I did not say anything about him saying he was looking to talk to only women in America - my husband spoke with women from Morocco - France - Germany, etc. it just ended that we were the two that fell in love.

Second - I did not say we communicate with "charades" - my lawyer had added into my letter of interview - the part of the hand gestures - and personally I do not feel anything wrong with hand gestures - do you point to something when you are trying to get someone to look at something you see? - hand gestures.

Third - this one is real important - I said that the CO Officer asked "HOW DID YOU LEARN ENGLISH?" my husband's response was, "I LEARNED FROM MY FRIENDS" -------- The CO Officer took that statement to say that we have help from friends communicating always ------ WE DO NOT - DO NOT HAVE ANYONE COMMUNICATING FOR US - NO HELP - NO NOTHING - MY HUSBAND AND I TALK TO EACH OTHER EVERY DAY WITH NO PROBLEMS ------- Please hear what I am saying here - most days I wish I could tell my husband to close his mouth - LOL - he talks and talks and talks and sometimes he just does not stop. There is no friends or any other person ever translating for us - never.