Tourist visa denied because our age gap

[bobinna13 46]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Ask him why he was denied, he would have been given a notice with the reason.

 

Knowing very little about you overall situation it is impossible to comment which is the better option.

 

As others have mentioned there is a lot of fraud at this Consulate, makes it so much harder for the genuine cases.

He said that after a bunch of questions about me, my children, and my age he said the interviewer said he was going to have to say no.  Then he handed him a letter that said it was because he didn't have sufficient ties for him to come back home.  He had shown him our paper work that we are currently in the K1 process and he was totally fine.  It wasn't until it came to my age that he was no longer friendly.  He said he was very different.  Said wow several times and then said no.... Idk.  that's all I got. 

[ConOfficer 167]

26 minutes ago, Boiler said:

he would have been given a notice with the reason.

Probably not. It's better not to tell people exactly why they were denied. 

 

Also we don't give people an individualized notice for a basic tourist visa denial, just a generic description of section 214b of the Immigration and Nationality Act. 

[mrx3214 4]

I wouldn't do the CR-1 route.  If you already in the process. You would need to start from square one.. My cr-1 took little over one year.  

 

[Boiler 45,941]

46 minutes ago, bobinna13 said:

He said that after a bunch of questions about me, my children, and my age he said the interviewer said he was going to have to say no.  Then he handed him a letter that said it was because he didn't have sufficient ties for him to come back home.  He had shown him our paper work that we are currently in the K1 process and he was totally fine.  It wasn't until it came to my age that he was no longer friendly.  He said he was very different.  Said wow several times and then said no.... Idk.  that's all I got. 

That is normal and a frequent cause for refusal. The rest of it is not relevant to a visitor visa application.

[bobinna13 46]

12 minutes ago, Boiler said:

That is normal and a frequent cause for refusal. The rest of it is not relevant to a visitor visa application.

Ok.  I assumed he wouldn't look through his paperwork nod and smile, then have a shift in moods as to my age and hand a paper that said she's too old to him... that's just mean lol   I figured it was a rather cookie cutter letter

[KULtoATL 1,551]

13 hours ago, bobinna13 said:

My fiancee and I had applied for a tourist visa so he could come meet my children and see where I live.  We are currently in the k1 process.  He took everything showing that we are doing this the right and legal way.  When they asked about our age difference he was honest with them.  The man proceeded to tell him no because he didn't feel that our relationship was real given our age.  If this is what he has gone through just for a vistor visa, I can't imagine what it's going to be like with the k1 interview.  I'm going back next week for another visit.   Should we just get married there and start the process over for a spouse visa? There is a 15 year gap in our age.  While it makes no sense on paper, we are perfect for each other.  Thanks in advance for the suggestions

1) B2 vs. K-1 interview: The visas are very different in nature and require dissimilar types of evidences. B2 he has to prove his strong ties in his home country to convince the CO that he will return to his home country and will not overstay despite having an American fiancee. It's not uncommon that someone who is undergoing the K-1 process is denied a B2. As for K-1, he has to prove to the CO that your relationship together is bona fide regardless of your age, religion and cultural differences. A B2 denial does not affect the K-1 visa application. However, as others have mentioned, Morocco is considered a high fraud country therefore a denial is possible and it could be due to any reasons, not just your age difference.

 

2) Switching to CR-1: Since you are now in the stage of waiting for your I-129F's NOA2 and you'll be adjudicated some time soon, I personally would suggest that you wait to see if you get a RFE, denial or the much coveted NOA2. Who knows? Your I-129F might just be approved in order for your fiance to proceed with the K-1 application. After all, you have waited for 3 months now, why not wait till you hear back from USCIS before deciding to switch over to doing a CR-1 only to restart the clock? Even if you apply for a CR-1, again, there's no guarantee that he will be granted a visa. Have patience and faith. This is not a fast and easy process. 

 

@bobinna13 Just to clarify one thing, as per @Georgia16, a K-1 indeed does not delay your marriage by 90 days. You can pretty much get married the very next day upon his arrival into the US if you can manage to get a marriage license immediately at the courthouse whether to be married by a judge or any other officiant of your choice. With K-1, he cannot work until he gets his EAD. With CR-1, he is admitted as a permanent resident at the POE and can work right away provided that he gets himself a SSN first. 

[Bill and Claudio 10]

15 hours ago, bobinna13 said:

My fiancee and I had applied for a tourist visa so he could come meet my children and see where I live.  We are currently in the k1 process.  He took everything showing that we are doing this the right and legal way.  When they asked about our age difference he was honest with them.  The man proceeded to tell him no because he didn't feel that our relationship was real given our age.  If this is what he has gone through just for a vistor visa, I can't imagine what it's going to be like with the k1 interview.  I'm going back next week for another visit.   Should we just get married there and start the process over for a spouse visa? There is a 15 year gap in our age.  While it makes no sense on paper, we are perfect for each other.  Thanks in advance for the suggestions

Hi, so.. the gap between my Fiancé and me is 27 years. Our interview is gonna be soon. Anyway he is coming to Brazil to go with me for insure that we will have the approval! If you submitt all logs and proofs that your relationship is real to USCIS, there is no reason to be afraid. Just keep your faith.

[Loki_Go 126]

9 hours ago, bobinna13 said:

Ok.  I assumed he wouldn't look through his paperwork nod and smile, then have a shift in moods as to my age and hand a paper that said she's too old to him... that's just mean lol   I figured it was a rather cookie cutter letter

 

It sounds like you're assuming and reading into a lot here. Age isn't a factor in a visitor visa. Why would it? It may be a combining factor in your K1 but you don't need to prove a relationship in a visitor visa, but you do need to prove you're going to return and not stay.

 

Saying a K1 delays a marriage by 90 days is ridiculous lol. If there's no delays a K1 takes less time than a CR1 lol.

 

[bobinna13 46]

17 minutes ago, Loki_Go said:

 

It sounds like you're assuming and reading into a lot here. Age isn't a factor in a visitor visa. Why would it? It may be a combining factor in your K1 but you don't need to prove a relationship in a visitor visa, but you do need to prove you're going to return and not stay.

 

Saying a K1 delays a marriage by 90 days is ridiculous lol. If there's no delays a K1 takes less time than a CR1 lol.

 

It was an assumption given the change in the interviewer's demeanor and behavior after hearing it.  That's why I apologized.  I was totally taken aback when he first told me what happened. I could see the interviewer picking out other parts of why he wouldn't qualify, but I guess the age thing was what changed how things were perceived.  And I know the K1 doesn't delay marriage.  The whole reason we started the K1 vs the CR1 was to speed up our ability to be together and pretty much get married the second he sets foot here lol.   I kinda disregarded all of that.

Edited July 12, 2017 by bobinna13

[Loki_Go 126]

An interviewer will throw all kinds of curveballs at you during visa interviews. We had a couple thrown at us during my AOS interview. Sometimes they try to see your reaction or try to trip you up. I know the demeanor of our CO doing my AOS interview seemed to turn on a dime at times.

 

You have a tough embassy with a high fraud rate. Only you two know how genuine your relationship truly is and that your fiance isn't just seeking a US visa... and you'll have to prove that to the COs along the way. It'll be a steep hill for sure.

 

[bobinna13 46]

1 hour ago, Loki_Go said:

An interviewer will throw all kinds of curveballs at you during visa interviews. We had a couple thrown at us during my AOS interview. Sometimes they try to see your reaction or try to trip you up. I know the demeanor of our CO doing my AOS interview seemed to turn on a dime at times.

 

You have a tough embassy with a high fraud rate. Only you two know how genuine your relationship truly is and that your fiance isn't just seeking a US visa... and you'll have to prove that to the COs along the way. It'll be a steep hill for sure.

 

Yeah I know it is and I can even understand why.  I was skeptical myself for a while.  That man had to earn my trust it wasn't just automatically given.  I'll just say I've been hurt a lot. We've reached the decision that if we are still unable to be together  here I'm moving there.  While he feels bad about what I'm giving up, he is happy with us being there.  If it weren't for my kids it would be a no brainer.  But I have all of that worked out too at this point (they are not all grown but they are older).  That's the only reason for him to come here vs me go there...*shrug* but we will do what we have to

[RJandHamid 1,133]

My fiance (also from Morocco) and I also thought about applying for a tourist visa before we started the K1 process. We ultimately decided against it because I was pretty certain he wouldn't be able to prove ties to his country (young, single, at that time unemployed man). He just had his K1 interview on Monday and was approved. The biggest factor that helped our case was that I was able to visit him in Morocco 4 times over the past 2 years. These visits were usually only about 1 week each. That doesn't included the initial trip in which we met by chance. The CO asked a lot of questions about these visits. We don't have an age difference, but couples with large age gaps do get approved in Morocco, however they tend to have to work a lot harder to prove a genuine relationship. This can be overcome with multiple visits, so I really recommend visiting Morocco a 2nd time before his K1 interview if you have not already done so. It will help your case tremendously. 

[bobinna13 46]

1 hour ago, RJandHamid said:

My fiance (also from Morocco) and I also thought about applying for a tourist visa before we started the K1 process. We ultimately decided against it because I was pretty certain he wouldn't be able to prove ties to his country (young, single, at that time unemployed man). He just had his K1 interview on Monday and was approved. The biggest factor that helped our case was that I was able to visit him in Morocco 4 times over the past 2 years. These visits were usually only about 1 week each. That doesn't included the initial trip in which we met by chance. The CO asked a lot of questions about these visits. We don't have an age difference, but couples with large age gaps do get approved in Morocco, however they tend to have to work a lot harder to prove a genuine relationship. This can be overcome with multiple visits, so I really recommend visiting Morocco a 2nd time before his K1 interview if you have not already done so. It will help your case tremendously. 

The first time I went I stayed 2 weeks.  This time I can only stay 10 days because of my work schedule (not counting my flight there and back). It was nice because my daughter and I stayed with his family.  They were wonderful.   I have read some horror stories about families pressuring the "significant other", but the only thing they pressured us about was earing more food lol