Kremlin and White House disagree over remarks from Trump-Putin meeting

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kremlin-white-house-disagree-remarks-trump-putin-meeting/story?id=48513031

 

 

Both Russia and the United States declared Friday’s first meeting between President Donald Trump and President Vladimir Putin a success. But hours after the two sat down at the G20Summit in Germany, the White House has found itself fending off criticism Trump had been too soft on Putin, as the Kremlin seemed to outflank his administration in shaping how the encounter is being presented.

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who was in the room with the two presidents, said that Trump had “pressed” Putin on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Almost simultaneously, however, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who had also been present at the talks, told a separate news conference that Trump had informed Putin he “accepts” Russia’s denials that it was behind the election meddling.

“The president said that he had heard the clear statements of President Putin that it isn’t true, and that the Russian leadership had not interfered in these elections, and he said that he accepts these statements. And that’s it really,” Lavrov said.

That appears to be at odds with Tillerson’s account, but the U.S. secretary of state also suggested that Trump had indicated to Putin that he wished to move on from the accusations of interference, which he said had become a hindrance to better relations.

"The two presidents I think rightly focused on is, ‘how do we move forward?’ Because it's not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations," Tillerson said.

“There was not a lot re-litigating history,” he said

 

 

 

Tillerson added that the over two-hour conversation had revealed “very clear positive chemistry” between the presidents. “Neither one of them wanted to stop,” he said.

Taken together, however, Lavrov and Tillerson’s comments have prompted an outcry from some that Trump had effectively signaled to Putin he was dropping the issue, despite assessments from U.S. intelligence that Moscow had unleashed an unprecedented operation against the election involving cyberattacks and propaganda which many officials suggest could be repeated.

“For Secretary Tillerson to say that this issue will remain unresolved is disgraceful,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement.

“Working to compromise the integrity of our election process cannot and should not be an area where ‘agree to disagree’ is an acceptable conclusion. Congress and Americans of all political persuasions and parties should do all they can to increase sanctions on Russia and prevent the reduction of any sanctions by the executive branch,” he added.

Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Moscow under the Obama administration, wrote in a tweet that: “Agreeing to disagree on the FACTS of Russian violation of our sovereignty is weak.”

Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan, however, was less phased by the comments, saying he wasn’t surprised Putin had denied Russia had interfered in the election.

“It comes as no surprise to me Vladimir Putin would deny what we know they did,” Ryan told the Associated Press.

[jg121783 3,921]

Another non issue from the left.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

31 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Another non issue from the left.

okay a non comment for a non issue 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

4 hours ago, ccneat said:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kremlin-white-house-disagree-remarks-trump-putin-meeting/story?id=48513031

 

 

Both Russia and the United States declared Friday’s first meeting between President Donald Trump and President Vladimir Putin a success. But hours after the two sat down at the G20Summit in Germany, the White House has found itself fending off criticism Trump had been too soft on Putin, as the Kremlin seemed to outflank his administration in shaping how the encounter is being presented.

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who was in the room with the two presidents, said that Trump had “pressed” Putin on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Almost simultaneously, however, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who had also been present at the talks, told a separate news conference that Trump had informed Putin he “accepts” Russia’s denials that it was behind the election meddling.

“The president said that he had heard the clear statements of President Putin that it isn’t true, and that the Russian leadership had not interfered in these elections, and he said that he accepts these statements. And that’s it really,” Lavrov said.

That appears to be at odds with Tillerson’s account, but the U.S. secretary of state also suggested that Trump had indicated to Putin that he wished to move on from the accusations of interference, which he said had become a hindrance to better relations.

"The two presidents I think rightly focused on is, ‘how do we move forward?’ Because it's not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations," Tillerson said.

“There was not a lot re-litigating history,” he said

 

 

 

Tillerson added that the over two-hour conversation had revealed “very clear positive chemistry” between the presidents. “Neither one of them wanted to stop,” he said.

Taken together, however, Lavrov and Tillerson’s comments have prompted an outcry from some that Trump had effectively signaled to Putin he was dropping the issue, despite assessments from U.S. intelligence that Moscow had unleashed an unprecedented operation against the election involving cyberattacks and propaganda which many officials suggest could be repeated.

“For Secretary Tillerson to say that this issue will remain unresolved is disgraceful,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement.

“Working to compromise the integrity of our election process cannot and should not be an area where ‘agree to disagree’ is an acceptable conclusion. Congress and Americans of all political persuasions and parties should do all they can to increase sanctions on Russia and prevent the reduction of any sanctions by the executive branch,” he added.

Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Moscow under the Obama administration, wrote in a tweet that: “Agreeing to disagree on the FACTS of Russian violation of our sovereignty is weak.”

Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan, however, was less phased by the comments, saying he wasn’t surprised Putin had denied Russia had interfered in the election.

“It comes as no surprise to me Vladimir Putin would deny what we know they did,” Ryan told the Associated Press.

So now the MDL is loving the Russians. They just cant make up their mind about Russians and Trump . Russian Bi polar disorder 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

23 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So now the MDL is loving the Russians. They just cant make up their mind about Russians and Trump . Russian Bi polar disorder 

I dont see that Russia love you talk about...what i see is a weak man dragging the prestige of America down.  Trump has is out of league ...

 

“Agreeing to disagree on the FACTS of Russian violation of our sovereignty is weak.”

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

23 minutes ago, ccneat said:

I dont see that Russia love you talk about...what i see is a weak man dragging the prestige of America down.  Trump has is out of league ...

 

“Agreeing to disagree on the FACTS of Russian violation of our sovereignty is weak.”

So Putin goes to evil liar, to we believe him more than Trump in one day..

When your butt hurt and Russia is all you got left 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

51 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So Putin goes to evil liar, to we believe him more than Trump in one day..

When your butt hurt and Russia is all you got left 

You need a new tune.  The fact that Trump is rapidly proving that he cannot run with the big dogs does not stem from how anyone feels about the election. 

The man is all tweet and no action.

 

Edited July 9, 2017 by ccneat

[JimandChristy 1,689]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So Putin goes to evil liar, to we believe him more than Trump in one day..

When your butt hurt and Russia is all you got left 

Donnie seems to trust Putin a lot and take his word. I think Donnie has found his soul mate!

[Crazy Cat 42,540]

32 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Donnie seems to trust Putin a lot and take his word. I think Donnie has found his soul mate!

That's PRESIDENT Donnie.

Edited July 9, 2017 by missileman

[Dashinka 24,864]

So we are all about analyzing political spin?  What did anyone expect from this meeting?  Did everyone expect Putin to come out and say yeah, we meddled, we're sorry and now we will give back the Crimea?  I also have news for you, it wouldn't have mattered if it was Obama, Trump, or even Hillary representing us as POTUS, the spin would have been the same.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

49 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So we are all about analyzing political spin?  What did anyone expect from this meeting?  Did everyone expect Putin to come out and say yeah, we meddled, we're sorry and now we will give back the Crimea?  I also have news for you, it wouldn't have mattered if it was Obama, Trump, or even Hillary representing us as POTUS, the spin would have been the same.

Difference is only one of the above mentioned is in complete denial that Russia had anything to do with interfering with our election. He keeps on using the word "probably" he won't say it straight. By doing that he's undermining our intelligence agencies and thus national security. Even Lindsey Graham wasn't falling for Trump's explanation.

[eieio 1,594]

Sounds like there is a cease fire in part of Syria...so that's good. Not sure how long it will last....I guess we will find out.

 

If Clinton had been elected I imagine we would already be dead or underground trying to survive the nuclear war she had started.

 

basically...Trump has saved the world.

Edited July 10, 2017 by eieio

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

22 hours ago, missileman said:

That's PRESIDENT Donnie.

Just like it was President O'bummer to many on this board for years

[Dashinka 24,864]

11 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Just like it was President O'bummer to many on this board for years

At least most of those people actually acknowledged Obama was president.  They may not have liked his politics, but he was still the highest officeholder in our country (except for the judges of the 9th Circuit).

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

At least most of those people actually acknowledged Obama was president.  They may not have liked his politics, but he was still the highest officeholder in our country (except for the judges of the 9th Circuit).

Some people didn't acknowledge his birthright as an American, then they blamed him for not forcing the State of Hawaii for issuing a public copy sooner.  

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