Haven't told our parents about marriage. Will we get denied?

[databit 328]

Other bad news:

 

Do her parents deduct her on taxes as a dependent? Because they could easily file as early as January 1st, as many people do. Then you would be screwing them up with the IRS. And your wife, because she would know she needs to file as married, not as a dependent on her parents. So your April schedule would not apply.

 

Is she in school and getting loans based on her parents tax return income? 

 

Is her health insurance connected to her parents? 

[Georgia16 2,858]

57 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

I have a question. Does the officer typically say "do your parents know about your marriage?" They can present photos with the parents so it looks like a big happy family that accepts him. 

 

Another question. Do you sleep apart? I was thinking if the parents are okay with you shacking up under their roof, surely they would be more comfortable that you committed to a marriage. Don't answer if I'm being too cheeky. 🇬🇧

Where I come from this would be normal even way younger without problems from parents so I guess it all depends. 

 

My my question is don't his parents wonder why he didn't come back from the visit on the esta? Or wondering what he is doing? How he can stay there? Getting money from and so on? 

[Bzlibem 111]

We haven't told my husbands parents and we got accepted  so don't worry about it. 

[mcdull 474]

2 hours ago, JFH said:

OP, immigration is a grown-up matter and you need to deal with it like a grown-up. Scared to tell your in-laws that you're married? What's the matter with you? You do realize that should you complete your studies and become a doctor you are going to have far more difficult conversations with people than that. You are going to have to tell

someone their child has died, or that they have terminal cancer. I'm tempted to say medicine isn't the right path for you. I certainly wouldn't want someone who is scared of his in-laws and frightened that they might throw him out of the house handling my health concerns. 

 

And you CAN be apart. All this "we love each other too much". I absolutely promise you, without a word of a lie, that I do not love my husband any less then you love your wife. I'll wager that I love him more because I certainly would never put him into a situation that would cause his family to be upset with him. Yet we coped being apart. We survived. I managed to get myself back onto a plane each time. You have far more time off university than I ever had off work in the U.K. so you could spend plenty of time together and complete your studies. Now you're going to be jobless for a year or so, camping out with various people, and constantly looking over your shoulder. And for what? It might seem very romantic and exciting now but when you've grown up a bit you'll regret doing it this way. 

 

Your AOS is going to be very difficult if your wife isn't even receiving mail in her married name. I'm not sure which state you're in but most keep marriage records online. A quick search of my name on our state's website and there's my marriage certificate and license for all to see. You can't hide much in this day and age.

What does not one's familial issue have to do with being a good doc? 

 

And besides, the wife is not obligated to change her name, it is 2017!  And having your spouse's last name isn't just "open sesame" to immigration . 

 

Let himself decides what he wants to do. 

[mcdull 474]

What you are experiencing is completely normal. I was terrified to tell my parents I was with a man more than 10 years junior of my age ! (My husband was terrified too)  But alas,  dear op. Marriage is utterly lame, so lame. If it isn't lame yet, it will be lame. 

Edited July 9, 2017 by mcdull

[JFH 12,190]

7 minutes ago, mcdull said:

What does not one's familial issue have to do with being a good doc? 

 

And besides, the wife is not obligated to change her name, it is 2017!  And having your spouse's last name isn't just "open sesame" to immigration . 

 

Let himself decides what he wants to do. 

It's about his general level of maturiyy. If he's not mature enough to tell his father-in-law that he married her daughter I don't think he's mature enough to deal with the complex issues that medics face daily. He's proven that by abandoning his studies to live a secret marriage like Romeo

and Juliet.

 

Of course no woman has to change her name. But by living this secret life his wife can't change her name if she wants to. She's being forced to keep her maiden name so that no one finds out. What's 2017 about that? That's my point. I had the choice whether to change my name or not. So did you. This woman doesn't have a choice. He has put his wife in an awful position. She will be the one who will suffer the most when her parents find out. And they will find out. 

[caliliving 606]

13 minutes ago, JFH said:

It's about his general level of maturiyy. If he's not mature enough to tell his father-in-law that he married her daughter I don't think he's mature enough to deal with the complex issues that medics face daily. He's proven that by abandoning his studies to live a secret marriage like Romeo

and Juliet.

 

Of course no woman has to change her name. But by living this secret life his wife can't change her name if she wants to. She's being forced to keep her maiden name so that no one finds out. What's 2017 about that? That's my point. I had the choice whether to change my name or not. So did you. This woman doesn't have a choice. He has put his wife in an awful position. She will be the one who will suffer the most when her parents find out. And they will find out. 

Well seeing that she us 21 and they live w her parents it's prob her choice not to tell them. I just think with him not finishing school and her being 21 no clue how financially this will work...but marriage wise lots don't tell ppl they are married till later for dear of rejection from family age and sexual orientation.

I don't think the interview will be tough seeing that he's from a low fraud country and they r clearly in love but I have no idea how he is going to graduate from school and get a job. However that is for them to figure out 

Edited July 9, 2017 by caliliving

[Seth And Quynh 77]

1 hour ago, databit said:

Other bad news:

 

Do her parents deduct her on taxes as a dependent? Because they could easily file as early as January 1st, as many people do. Then you would be screwing them up with the IRS. And your wife, because she would know she needs to file as married, not as a dependent on her parents. So your April schedule would not apply.

 

Is she in school and getting loans based on her parents tax return income? 

 

Is her health insurance connected to her parents? 

So it your a dependent on your parents taxes would you file as single or married on your own taxes?

[mcdull 474]

24 minutes ago, JFH said:

It's about his general level of maturiyy. If he's not mature enough to tell his father-in-law that he married her daughter I don't think he's mature enough to deal with the complex issues that medics face daily. He's proven that by abandoning his studies to live a secret marriage like Romeo

and Juliet.

 

Of course no woman has to change her name. But by living this secret life his wife can't change her name if she wants to. She's being forced to keep her maiden name so that no one finds out. What's 2017 about that? That's my point. I had the choice whether to change my name or not. So did you. This woman doesn't have a choice. He has put his wife in an awful position. She will be the one who will suffer the most when her parents find out. And they will find out. 

A secret marriage like Romeo and Juliet. Oui SVP!

 

I think OP is mature enough to make his decisions and that possible trace of immaturity is what he in 20 years will treasure.

 

The saying we have in Chinese "When the horse buggy gets to the mountain, there'll be a path through and when the boat gets to the pier-head, it will go straight with the current "

 

So go ahead with your love story! 

Edited July 9, 2017 by mcdull

[databit 328]

16 minutes ago, Seth And Quynh said:

So it your a dependent on your parents taxes would you file as single or married on your own taxes?

A person can only appear on one tax return!

Never more than one! 

 

If married: 

You must file as "married filing jointly" (when husband and wife file with their own, shared income--even if only 1 gets income)

OR you file "married filing separately" (when husband and wife each file a return--OR if one of them will appear on someone else's return (like the parents return). Not both!

 

So in OP's case, if the daughter is on the parents taxes, she can't file her own taxes with her husband---so the husband would have to file "married filing separately" which is the most expensive tax status. And a red flag for immigration.

 

[Seth And Quynh 77]

4 minutes ago, databit said:

A person can only appear on one tax return!

Never more than one! 

 

If married: 

You must file as "married filing jointly" (when husband and wife file with their own, shared income--even if only 1 gets income)

OR you file "married filing separately" (when husband and wife each file a return--OR if one of them will appear on someone else's return (like the parents return). Not both!

 

So in OP's case, if the daughter is on the parents taxes, she can't file her own taxes with her husband---so the husband would have to file "married filing separately" which is the most expensive tax status. And a red flag for immigration.

 

I'm a dependent on my dad's taxes when my dad filed for me he listed me as single not married filing separately because my wife is not in the USA and dosent have a ss#

[mcdull 474]

6 minutes ago, Seth And Quynh said:

I'm a dependent on my dad's taxes when my dad filed for me he listed me as single not married filing separately because my wife is not in the USA and dosent have a ss#

"Because my wife is not in the USA and doesn't have a SSN,  so I could be considered single"   does that mean you could also get married to another woman whilst your wife is outside of the USA and not considered a bigamy?

[Seth And Quynh 77]

1 minute ago, mcdull said:

"Because my wife is not in the USA and doesn't have a SSN,  so I could be considered single"   does that mean you could also get married to another woman whilst your wife is outside of the USA and not considered a bigamy?

what does bigamy have to do with taxes i'm asking if i'm dependent on someone else's taxes would it affect my tax status because i'm dependent on my dad's .

[RayAndThandi 0]

Either you or your wife is lacking basic working knowledge of the tax structure in the USA. The tax year is Jan. 1-Dec. 31. Whether you are married in January or December, in the eyes of the IRS you are able to file for the entire year the second your marriage license is registered with the licensing jurisdiction. The official tax filing date is April 15 of the next year with additional days allowed if the 15th falls on Saturday or Sunday. The IRS doesn't care when you get married, they want to know how much you made that year.

If you married your wife for immigration purposes, independent of your fiance visa application, you married her for the wrong reasons. What if the best job was in England or some other country. Would you no longer be interested in your wife? I'm not sure you can make a compelling case for filing separately given the tax advantages of filing jointly AND a joint return is evidence that you are sharing expenses and functioning as a couple. Is her income enough that it will disqualify from school loans/scholarships?  My wife (from South Africa) married me (born in the USA) because she loved me even though her kids, grand kids and house are overseas. We've always been open to living anywhere in the world where we could both thrive. As for you two not telling parents, part of the recommended supporting documentation is dated pictures of you being with the family and I'm sure most would agree that pictures with your parents would trump pictures with you siblings in the pecking order.

Please take the concerns of the people who went through the true test of love known as the K-1 process seriously and sweated out our successful cases with a much more credible case than you are projecting in this discussion. (Most of my doctors are from overseas so don't mess it up because your medical expertise is needed in this country, so by all means, finish your studies and practice here!)... Don't be afraid because her parents might have a conniption. The reverse may be true.  I'd rather my daughter was banging her husband under my roof than her boyfriend! 

Finally, you can't bank on everything happening on your time line. It's on the USCIS timeline. When you think you've covered all the bases you still might get hit with a request for information that will stall your application. Removal of conditions looks like a 90 day process when you read the guideline but it took almost 12 months for final approval and receipt of 10-year green card for my wife. 

Good luck with all this.

[Coco8 1,042]

17 minutes ago, Seth And Quynh said:

what does bigamy have to do with taxes i'm asking if i'm dependent on someone else's taxes would it affect my tax status because i'm dependent on my dad's .

A parent cannot claim a child in that situation unless you and your new wife file separate returns as married filing separately.  In that case, if your wife had no income, they could.  (However, filing MFS will likely increase your tax liability more than you would anticipate.)

For what it's worth, the choice is yours.  If you file a joint return and they claim her as a dependent, your return is correct and theirs is not.

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1915666-can-a-parent-claim-married-child-as-dependant-if-her-spouse-has-tax-liability

 

Use google.