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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why is there a problem with Insurance, Marriage would not normally be a factor.

It may and it may not be a factor, we do not know the policy so if the status is not changed and she would
not qualify if married under her father's insurance, then it will be insurance fraud. It needs to be checked into.


OP, you asked if the insurance would know if she is married, no not yet. However they will know that when she gets sick
or needs hospitalization per many forms she would have to fill out and if she does not say she is married on them
then she commits insurance fraud and her father would be in trouble also. Do not dig the hole deeper as Damara so
wisely stated in his excellent post. It is worth reading his post twice and let it sink in. This is not a time to 'respect her feelings'
and play along but time to lead her respectfully into what is the right thing to do.

 

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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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2 hours ago, Damara said:

I understand you think the replies here are harsh. Maybe they are but its nothing compared to the grilling you can potentially get from the immigration officer.

 

You can not wait to let the insurance company know. If she uses the insurance- which she probably wont be eligible for once she tells them she is married- (most policies dont allow for adult married children on them)- she will be committing insurance fraud. 

 

Getting married changes your legal status. It impacts tons of things from insurance (health and vehicle) to medical issues to tax issues.  These are issues both you and her parents have to deal with. You need to explain to your wife that it is important to tell her parents. I understand she doesnt want to. Its a bad idea not to. And believe me, Im not the only one who can say my spouse has had some bad ideas that Ive had to "veto". Its part of life. 

 

As a side note I am a parent of a child the same age as you guys. I would be furious if I found out that the "boyfriend" whom I have been let live with us was really the husband. When you find yourself in a hole- stop digging. You didnt just wake up and go to the courthouse and get married in one hour did you? You had to get a license and come back most likely. Her parents are going to feel betrayed and rightly so. Its too late now to undo it, but you have to stop digging your hole and come clean. If you cant reason with your wife then maybe shes not mature enough to be married? 

 

Finally you cant just have joint accounts. Anyone can open an account. Simply having it doesnt mean squat. You have to actually use the account. Are you planning on using it? If not then theres no point in having them. 

 

You are going down a slippery slope here by not telling her parents who you live with. Good moral character is needed for immigration. Now Im not saying lying to her parents disqualifies you but it doesnt help. You are currently lying to get a benefit. (living with her parents).  

Okay thanks, will be telling her Mom tomorrow before she signs the i-864. 

 

I spoke to my wife about the joint account, she said she wants to do it. We will have a joint checking and savings account. She said she only wants to use the savings account and she'll put a little in each month and then rest in her personal savings account at her other bank. Over time she wants to put more into our joint savings and we will put equal amounts in it.

 

We will also get a joint credit card when I get my social within a month, fingers crossed.

 

Would it do more harm than good to only use our joint savings account? Would it be better just to have a joint credit card?

 

Thanks

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04/01/16....Met online playing Dota 2 

01/20/17....POE Chicago (Visa Waiver - Visitor)

06/27/17....Marriage at courthouse, IL 

07/11/17....AOS mailed 1.45pm  - I-130, I-130a, I-131, I-485, I-765, I-864 X2 (for wife and joint sponsor) - Day 0

07/12/17....AOS Packet arrived at Chicago Lockbox - Day 1

07/19/17....NOA 1 Email/Texts received 11.23pm - Day 8

07/22/17....NOA 1 physical copies arrived  - Day 11

10/17/17....We Have Ordered your new card (EAD)   - Day 98

10/19/17....Card Mailed! (EAD) - Day 100

01/12/18....Scheduled For Interview (EAD) - Day 185

02/13/18....Interviewed and Approved for 2 Year GC! :jest:   - Day 217

02/14/18....We have Ordered your new card (2 Year GC)!  - Day 218

02/15/18....Card Mailed (2 Year GC)!  - Day 219

 

 

Was a stressful journey full of ups and downs, cya in 2020 VJ. I'll be back when it's time to begin the dreaded I-751. Biggest advice - make sure you have a TON of evidence, be completely honest and you'll be fine. Good luck everyone! =)

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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22 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

It may and it may not be a factor, we do not know the policy so if the status is not changed and she would
not qualify if married under her father's insurance, then it will be insurance fraud. It needs to be checked into.


OP, you asked if the insurance would know if she is married, no not yet. However they will know that when she gets sick
or needs hospitalization per many forms she would have to fill out and if she does not say she is married on them
then she commits insurance fraud and her father would be in trouble also. Do not dig the hole deeper as Damara so
wisely stated in his excellent post. It is worth reading his post twice and let it sink in. This is not a time to 'respect her feelings'
and play along but time to lead her respectfully into what is the right thing to do.

 

I was just making the general comment that OCare allows children to stay on their Parents plans, marriage does not negate this. I assume nothing has been mentioned that would except this general policy.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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2 minutes ago, venom123 said:

Okay thanks, will be telling her Mom tomorrow before she signs the i-864. 

 

I spoke to my wife about the joint account, she said she wnats to it. We will have a joint checking and savings account. She said she only wants to use the savings account and she'll put a little in each month and then rest in her personal savings account at her other bank. Over time she wants to put more into our joint savings and we will put equal amounts in it.

 

We will also get a joint credit card when I get my social within a month, fingers crossed.

 

Would it do more harm than good to only use our joint savings account? Would it be better just to have a joint credit card?

 

Thanks

You need a joint checking.
Joint savings.
Joint credit card(s). All 3 items because you do not have much else.
Affidavit from her mom that you both live with her >>> Important, because you have no lease or mortgage.
If you both help out with the utilities then she can state that in the affidavit >>>> you have no utilities in your names.
She needs to change her phone bill from out of her dad's name into both of your name >>>> start with something on your own.

Make a will.
Make a living will.
Make a power of attorney
The last 3 can be done online (or at the social service department at a hospital for the living will only).
 

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I was just making the general comment that OCare allows children to stay on their Parents plans, marriage does not negate this. I assume nothing has been mentioned that would except this general policy.

Nothing has been mentioned because the policy is not known to OP or his wife.
It was advised to be truthful with the policy holder (father of wife) so he can check into that specific policy so no

insurance fraud is committed in the future. If the policy allows it then she can of course stay on it. It is unknown and should be checked
by OP's wife.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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10 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

You need a joint checking.
Joint savings.
Joint credit card(s). All 3 items because you do not have much else.
Affidavit from her mom that you both live with her >>> Important, because you have no lease or mortgage.
If you both help out with the utilities then she can state that in the affidavit >>>> you have no utilities in your names.
She needs to change her phone bill from out of her dad's name into both of your name >>>> start with something on your own.

Make a will.
Make a living will.
Make a power of attorney
The last 3 can be done online (or at the social service department at a hospital for the living will only).
 

I had no joint account no will and no attorney and got approved. The OP being from the UK won't need as much evidence as you need with your husband. 

Drivers license, joint phone bill and taxes is all I had. Oh and lots of pictures with each other family. The OP will be fine. He is from a low fraud country 

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4 minutes ago, caliliving said:

Marriage doesn't effect insurance people are just finding every reason to knock this poor couple down

Thank you so much. Yes they are. I was super excited about the whole process, but after this thread and the amount of hate i've receive I don't feel too great anymore.

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04/01/16....Met online playing Dota 2 

01/20/17....POE Chicago (Visa Waiver - Visitor)

06/27/17....Marriage at courthouse, IL 

07/11/17....AOS mailed 1.45pm  - I-130, I-130a, I-131, I-485, I-765, I-864 X2 (for wife and joint sponsor) - Day 0

07/12/17....AOS Packet arrived at Chicago Lockbox - Day 1

07/19/17....NOA 1 Email/Texts received 11.23pm - Day 8

07/22/17....NOA 1 physical copies arrived  - Day 11

10/17/17....We Have Ordered your new card (EAD)   - Day 98

10/19/17....Card Mailed! (EAD) - Day 100

01/12/18....Scheduled For Interview (EAD) - Day 185

02/13/18....Interviewed and Approved for 2 Year GC! :jest:   - Day 217

02/14/18....We have Ordered your new card (2 Year GC)!  - Day 218

02/15/18....Card Mailed (2 Year GC)!  - Day 219

 

 

Was a stressful journey full of ups and downs, cya in 2020 VJ. I'll be back when it's time to begin the dreaded I-751. Biggest advice - make sure you have a TON of evidence, be completely honest and you'll be fine. Good luck everyone! =)

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This thread is locked, for these reasons:

 

-- Derisive behavior by several participants (one of whom is subjected to administrative action);

-- Blithe, reckless postings of "you will be fine" that expose the OP to great danger from an immigration standpoint;

-- Over 10 pages of incessantly repeated constructive advice that seemingly fails to register with the OP;

-- The OP's asking participants not to participate, in violation of the site's Terms of Service.

 

This thread is not to be restarted or referred to elsewhere.

 

TBoneTX

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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