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I went to a DMV in NJ to renew my drivers license. The rep and the supervisor insisted to go with the receipt date of my I751 and refused to renew my license unless I get an "extension letter" from USCIS. My I751 receipt date was last September and will expire next June. Based on my research, I won't get a 551 stamp unless my I751 is about to expire. Did anyone have luck renewing their license in a specific NJ DMV location? I'd just go there and try my luck. I saw the file in the pinned thread about travel and will bring it with me this time.

Any information would be highly appreciated.

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1 hour ago, nnxx said:

My I751 receipt date was last September and will expire next June.

 

I am confused as to your timeline.

If you got your I-751 extension letter in Sept 2016, how will it expire in June 2018? 

 

When did your 2yr GC expire, when was your extension letter dated, have you got a stamp since, and when did/does your license expire?

 

 

 

Anyway, going by the letter date instead of the correct 1yr from 2yr GC expiry date, is I am afraid the more usual practice for NJ, and good luck getting them to admit that they are wrong.

 

 

1 hour ago, nnxx said:

 Based on my research, I won't get a 551 stamp unless my I751 is about to expire.

 

The oft-quoted but mythical 'you can only get a stamp within 30 days of the extension letter expiry'.

No such hard rule exists, and I speak from personal experience having done it several months before expiry of my then current proof of status.

Having a valid reason, such as travel in a period not covered by the letter, or in your case, in order to renew a license as you have no other proof of status available, should gain you an I-551 stamp at an infopass appointment.

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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13 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

I am confused as to your timeline.

If you got your I-751 extension letter in Sept 2016, how will it expire in June 2018? 

 

When did your 2yr GC expire, when was your extension letter dated, have you got a stamp since, and when did/does your license expire?

 

 

 

Anyway, going by the letter date instead of the correct 1yr from 2yr GC expiry date, is I am afraid the more usual practice for NJ, and good luck getting them to admit that they are wrong.

 

 

 

The oft-quoted but mythical 'you can only get a stamp within 30 days of the extension letter expiry'.

No such hard rule exists, and I speak from personal experience having done it several months before expiry of my then current proof of status.

Having a valid reason, such as travel in a period not covered by the letter, or in your case, in order to renew a license as you have no other proof of status available, should gain you an I-551 stamp at an infopass appointment.

2 year gc expired in June. Divorce so I 751 reciept date was last September. My license will expire this September. 

I will schedule an info pass just in case. Thank you for your help.

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2 hours ago, nnxx said:

2 year gc expired in June. Divorce so I 751 reciept date was last September. My license will expire this September. 

I will schedule an info pass just in case. Thank you for your help.

Just to be safe... I'd go back to the DMV (maybe a different office) and, if they still won't issue you a new license (sometimes a different office or even just a different officer will give you a different result) then insist that they provide, in writing, the reason why they won't give you a new license. Then, when you go to your infopass appointment, you can prove that you need the stamp, even though USCIS policy would suggest that you shouldn't get one.

 

Is your timeline updated?


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Removal of Conditions - I-751:

I-751 Mailed (USPS) Aug 10, 2016             NOA: August 17, 2016 (received Aug 23)                  Biometrics Letter Sent: Sept 23, 2016

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: Sept 30, 2016     Walk-In Biometrics Oct 6, 2016                                    Infopass for I-551 stamp Aug 17, 2017   

Service Request: Dec 27, 2017                   SR Response: Jan 10, 2018 (no prediction)              Senator Inquiry: Jan 5, 2018

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Forgot to update. I went to the DMV in Oakland. No questions asked. Check status and then issued me DL within 40 minutes. Totally pleasure experience. Who ever is in north NJ should go to that location to avoid all the trouble

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On 8/18/2017 at 1:30 AM, nnxx said:

Forgot to update. I went to the DMV in Oakland. No questions asked. Check status and then issued me DL within 40 minutes. Totally pleasure experience. Who ever is in north NJ should go to that location to avoid all the trouble

Can you please advise on what all documentation you had to take when you visited the DMV? Thanks 

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17 hours ago, Shan2021 said:

Can you please advise on what all documentation you had to take when you visited the DMV? Thanks 

Check the 6 points from NJ MVC website.

 

For Green Card purposes (I took Green Card (expired), Driver License (expired) and the extension letter.) no issues at MVC Woodbridge.

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On 8/26/2021 at 10:07 AM, Naes said:

Check the 6 points from NJ MVC website.

 

For Green Card purposes (I took Green Card (expired), Driver License (expired) and the extension letter.) no issues at MVC Woodbridge.

Hi! My 18 Month extension expired too. Was that the same situation for you? Please advise,, Thank you 

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22 hours ago, Shan2021 said:

Hi! My 18 Month extension expired too. Was that the same situation for you? Please advise,, Thank you 

If it expired you need to get a stamp as far as I know.

 

no I went with non-expired documents.

 

also as this is an old thread. I suggest opening your own, you may get better answers.

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23 hours ago, Naes said:

If it expired you need to get a stamp as far as I know.

 

no I went with non-expired documents.

 

also as this is an old thread. I suggest opening your own, you may get better answers.

Thank you! I appreciate it. 

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