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1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

All the same, it's flattering, in that it lacks originality. 

 

It's like Warhol's can of soup. Anyone can copy it, but he did it first. 

CEHST is full of un-original content.  Is this just being realized?

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Just now, CaliCat said:

 

It's a new thread isn't it?

Is the other one, or is it just an imitation of all the other Trump bashing threads?

Just now, bcking said:

Except one side is a one-man liar who also happens to be President of the United States.

So no one can claim the moral high ground.

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Is the other one, or is it just an imitation of all the other Trump bashing threads?

So no one can claim the moral high ground.

There are different expectations, at least for me, between media and the President.

 

I expect the President to be acting on solid factual evidence when he speaks on a topic. I expect him to act with respect towards all people in the country, as he represents all of us. I expect him to be above personal attacks, no matter how many people personally attack him. His is in a democractically elected position that makes him the representative and leader of all of us.

 

News media are corporate institutions that exist to make money. They are looking for more clicks, more page reads, so that they can make more money from advertisers.

 

It is really very silly to expect similar behaviors from the two.

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Just now, bcking said:

There are different expectations, at least for me, between media and the President.

 

I expect the President to be acting on solid factual evidence when he speaks on a topic. I expect him to act with respect towards all people in the country, as he represents all of us. I expect him to be above personal attacks, no matter how many people personally attack him. His is in a democractically elected position that makes him the representative and leader of all of us.

 

News media are corporate institutions that exist to make money. They are looking for more clicks, more page reads, so that they can make more money from advertisers.

 

It is really very silly to expect similar behaviors from the two.

I agree, the media has no integrity.

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5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I agree, the media has no integrity.

Currently we have a President and a media with no integrity.

 

To me it is pretty clear which one of those things is worse. The office of President has become a twitter bully and jokster. It's not that unexpected from corporate media (since they focus on viewership by making the biggest headlines, regardless of the truth). From the office of President, I find it quite sad.

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1 hour ago, bcking said:

This thread allows for anyone to post a link to a "lie" from pretty much any website that anyone chooses to consider "leftist corporate media". CNN is included, as is the Washington Times and Vice. 

 

I intended (with a typo) to say "nebulously defined group". There are literally hundreds of websites/news outlets you could fit in this thread. If each one had just 10 employees reporting that would be literally thousands of people who could be caught telling a lie.

 

You are comparing that to the lies of one man.

How in MDL bizzaro world do you defend the lies of the many because they are not lies of one. Does not even make sense 

 

So CNN makes up some stuff but its ok because it is not one man it is a company, despite going out and influencing the whole world

 

That is the most bizarre and weakest defense ever of the dishonest media 

 

LOL  

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16 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

How in MDL bizzaro world do you defend the lies of the many because they are not lies of one. Does not even make sense 

 

So CNN makes up some stuff but its ok because it is not one man it is a company, despite going out and influencing the whole world

 

That is the most bizarre and weakest defense ever of the dishonest media 

 

LOL  

:huh:...sigh...I'll try short bullet points.

 

1. I never said it was okay that Media lies.

2.  It is very wrong to compare the number of lies told by a single person with the number of lies told by an entire group of people spread across multiple organizations.

3. What is the point of the comparison? Are you trying to argue that the number of lies are similar? So Trump lies as much as dozens of news outlets and potentially hundreds or thousands of people put together? Doesn't seem to reflect well on Trump

3. The office of President should have a different standard than a media or news outlet.

4. The goals of the two (President vs. news media) are very different. One is to serve the people (President), the other is to make money (News media). 

 

EDIT: Edited to make the bullet points even shorter, just to help.

 

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trump has never been about serving anyone. doubtful he can even grasp civics as a concept. trump seems to be in it for making money off his personal brand just as much as the media has a bottom line.

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Is this thread looking to be the longest ever on VJ?

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