Trump Campaign Chief’s Firm Got $17 Million From Pro-Russia Party

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Just now, smilesammich said:

exactly, trump chooses to tweet. he gets to deal with the consequences of his poor decisions.

And shouldn't the biased media deal with the consequences of their poor decisions?  I understand that Sarah Palin has a good case for libel against The NY Times, maybe the opinion writers of that paper will pay the price for not even reading their own paper.

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5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

The right wong media is a small portion of the entire population and easily marginalized.  As to the Twitter thing, I agree, it is a poor platform for anyone to use Twitter, but hey to each their own.

I think Trump is going to end up hanging himself if he doesn't get off Twitter. He can't help himself, he is very impulsive.

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7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So just the alt-left is calling Trump a traitor?  I though Olbermann was a respected member of the mainstream media?

Olbermann is certainly a leftie, but he's the lefts equivalent of say someone like Hannity. Dramatic, outrageous and wildly entertaining to their base. 

 

I'm a leftie myself but I can tolerate Smith, Baier and Wallace on Fox News. They're fair and balanced as they say but the rest are just puppets of Trump.

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8 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

And shouldn't the biased media deal with the consequences of their poor decisions?  I understand that Sarah Palin has a good case for libel against The NY Times, maybe the opinion writers of that paper will pay the price for not even reading their own paper.

did the three cnn reports not loose their jobs? i haven't been following the sarah palin thing, so i can't comment. she deserves every bit of what she dishes out tho. i will say that.

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11 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Olbermann is certainly a leftie, but he's the lefts equivalent of say someone like Hannity. Dramatic, outrageous and wildly entertaining to their base. 

 

I'm a leftie myself but I can tolerate Smith, Baier and Wallace on Fox News. They're fair and balanced as they say but the rest are just puppets of Trump.

I thought Fox was completely right wing.  Didn't President Obama attack them fairly regularly?

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10 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

did the three cnn reports not loose their jobs? i haven't been following the sarah palin thing, so i can't comment. she deserves every bit of what she dishes out tho. i will say that.

I don't remember her saying anything regarding the recent political terrorist shooting by a supporter of a well known leftist, yet The NY Times decided to inject her into the story even though their own paper refuted she or her PAC had no connection to the Giffords shooting.  Slight correction, and no apology, so she may have a pretty good case for malice since even though it was an opinion piece, it presented the Palin/Giffords connection as fact.  Yes, the CNN reporters lost their job, and they probably should have as it doesn't sound like they were doing it particularly well.

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22 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

I think Trump is going to end up hanging himself if he doesn't get off Twitter. He can't help himself, he is very impulsive.

The media has been trying to hang him since he announced his candidacy.  Hasn't happened yet.  Even if he stopped tweeting completely, the barrage will not stop.

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3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I don't remember her saying anything regarding the recent political terrorist shooting by a supporter of a well known leftist, yet The NY Times decided to inject her into the story even though their own paper refuted she or her PAC had no connection to the Giffords shooting.  Slight correction, and no apology, so she may have a pretty good case for malice since even though it was an opinion piece, it presented the Palin/Giffords connection as fact.  Yes, the CNN reporters lost their job, and they probably should have as it doesn't sound like they were doing it particularly well.

this is the quote in question (just looked it up)..i remember the crosshairs map and it was very controversial at the time (not just the times trying to make palin look bad imo)- are you saying this didn't happen? this passage to me does not read as 'sarah palin's polictical action committees' crosshair map is responsible for gifford's shooting and six additional deaths" seems like mrs palin is being a bit of a snowflake.

 

"Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized crosshairs.

Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Though there’s no sign of incitement as direct as in the Giffords attack, liberals should of course hold themselves to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right."

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12 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I thought Fox was completely right wing.  Didn't President Obama attack them fairly regularly?

It is right wing, the ones I mentioned are centre right whereas O'Reilly, Hannity, Carlson etc are very much right.

 

Obama did attack fox news but I wouldn't call it regularly. More like rarely in his eight years.

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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

this is the quote in question (just looked it up)..i remember the crosshairs map and it was very controversial at the time (not just the times trying to make palin look bad imo)- are you saying this didn't happen? this passage to me does not read as 'sarah palin's polictical action committees' crosshair map is responsible for gifford's shooting and six additional deaths" seems like mrs palin is being a bit of a snowflake.

 

"Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized crosshairs.

Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Though there’s no sign of incitement as direct as in the Giffords attack, liberals should of course hold themselves to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right."

"The link to political incitement was clear" is a representation of fact that even their own paper said afterward was not the case and no link between the crosshairs map and Loughner was ever established.  I guess a court will sort it out.

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5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

this is the quote in question (just looked it up)..i remember the crosshairs map and it was very controversial at the time (not just the times trying to make palin look bad imo)- are you saying this didn't happen? this passage to me does not read as 'sarah palin's polictical action committees' crosshair map is responsible for gifford's shooting and six additional deaths" seems like mrs palin is being a bit of a snowflake.

 

"Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized crosshairs.

Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Though there’s no sign of incitement as direct as in the Giffords attack, liberals should of course hold themselves to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right."

2nd amendment remedies anyone?

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7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

"The link to political incitement was clear" is a representation of fact that even their own paper said afterward was not the case and no link between the crosshairs map and Loughner was ever established.  I guess a court will sort it out.

i agree a court will sort it out, i mean i'm not a lawyer or anything. i just read that as them speaking to the political environment (which has pretty much been on a steady decline for a while now) not directly blaming palin. i mean even here at cehst, when bernie sanders/supporters had nothing to do with the hodgkinson shooting, folks were playing it fast and loose with blame. bottom line anyone with a political pulpit needs to recognize the sheer number of armed crazies we have in this country, and the vast majority of them are highly suggestible.

Edited June 29, 2017 by smilesammich

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Actually, I do think he took it a bit personally, but that issue doesn't even compare as only the far right media were even pushing that issue.  With Trump, it is the supposed non-partisan media pushing this collusion narrative which is supposedly much more respected. However they are doing all they can to lose that respect.

 I seem to remember Trump leading the band on that, next to a few whack jobs.