Trump's future immigration policies- speculation MEGATHREAD

[SkruDe 311]

I've been watching the historical K1 Visa timeline graphs that Visajourney provides as reference through its members.  What I've noticed is a spike upward in processing times for the NOA2 ever since November (Election time).

 

What do you guys think is going on?  Why the spike?  Processing times have almost doubled.  Could it be Trump?  Could it be since he was elected everybody started filing K1 Visas? 

 

I got my K1 NOA1 on January 11th and over the past month I'm been watching NOA2 processing times rise and rise and rise  /cry

[Ahmed & Amy 291]

3 minutes ago, SkruDe said:

I've been watching the historical K1 Visa timeline graphs that Visajourney provides as reference through its members.  What I've noticed is a spike upward in processing times for the NOA2 ever since November (Election time).

 

What do you guys think is going on?  Why the spike?  Processing times have almost doubled.  Could it be Trump?  Could it be since he was elected everybody started filing K1 Visas? 

 

I got my K1 NOA1 on January 11th and over the past month I'm been watching NOA2 processing times rise and rise and rise  /cry

I don't know about it being specifically towards K1. Because NVC is still processing scan dates from the end of November and majority of those that I've seen are CR-1/IR-1. Now NVC just bumped up the review time from 6 weeks to 8 weeks on their website. And basically once you get past 6 weeks they give everyone the same excuse that they will send a request for 'supervisor review'. I have no idea if the long processing times are due to Trumps presidency, but all I do know is 6 months ago most people were getting CC within the normal review time, unless check-listed of course.

 

I'm about to reach 7 weeks at NVC and was told that it could be up to another 6 weeks for 'supervisor review' as it was just requested. Other members from multiple nationalities have been waiting up to 10,11, and 12 weeks without having CC yet. Don't really know what's going on. NVC reps say just about everything under the sun.

 

[Dutchster 1,107]

I think there is no doubt that since the election people are petitioning their spouses/fiancees as soon as they could. Many fear what will happen once he touches family based visas (IF he touches).

[SkruDe 311]

10 minutes ago, Ahmed & Amy said:

I don't know about it being specifically towards K1. Because NVC is still processing scan dates from the end of November and majority of those that I've seen are CR-1/IR-1. Now NVC just bumped up the review time from 6 weeks to 8 weeks on their website. And basically once you get past 6 weeks they give everyone the same excuse that they will send a request for 'supervisor review'. I have no idea if the long processing times are due to Trumps presidency, but all I do know is 6 months ago most people were getting CC within the normal review time, unless check-listed of course.

 

I'm about to reach 7 weeks at NVC and was told that it could be up to another 6 weeks for 'supervisor review' as it was just requested. Other members from multiple nationalities have been waiting up to 10,11, and 12 weeks without having CC yet. Don't really know what's going on. NVC reps say just about everything under the sun.

 

Those are surprising and depressing numbers you posted  

I don't know if the CR-1/IR-1 is different than K1 though?

This is the link I've been following daily on K1 processing times for every stage along the process:  http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1historical

According to thos graphs the NVC only spends 6 days processing

So I guess I'm a bit confused how everything works together or relates, if at all.

 

7 minutes ago, Dutchster said:

I think there is no doubt that since the election people are petitioning their spouses/fiancees as soon as they could. Many fear what will happen once he touches family based visas (IF he touches).

It does seem rather coincidental that the spikes upward all started in November during the election....

So you think the spike is from the flood gates opening up on submitted petitions?

[yuna628 9,689]

4 minutes ago, SkruDe said:

Those are surprising and depressing numbers you posted  

I don't know if the CR-1/IR-1 is different than K1 though?

This is the link I've been following daily on K1 processing times for every stage along the process:  http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1historical

According to thos graphs the NVC only spends 6 days processing

So I guess I'm a bit confused how everything works together or relates, if at all.

 

It does seem rather coincidental that the spikes upward all started in November during the election....

So you think the spike is from the flood gates opening up on submitted petitions?

Spousal visa times are very different than K1 times. The process is completely different. Any additional slowdowns many be case specific, especially with those from the middle-east.

As for any slowdown starting in November-December, it always happens that way. It's a period of many holidays for the federal government and an overall lack of productivity. CSC still remains fast and within stated guidelines in handling K1 cases. It's not at all like it used to be.

[Ahmed & Amy 291]

11 minutes ago, Dutchster said:

I think there is no doubt that since the election people are petitioning their spouses/fiancees as soon as they could. Many fear what will happen once he touches family based visas (IF he touches).

 

2 minutes ago, SkruDe said:

Those are surprising and depressing numbers you posted  

I don't know if the CR-1/IR-1 is different than K1 though?

This is the link I've been following daily on K1 processing times for every stage along the process:  http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1historical

According to thos graphs the NVC only spends 6 days processing

So I guess I'm a bit confused how everything works together or relates, if at all.

 

It does seem rather coincidental that the spikes upward all started in November during the election....

So you think the spike is from the flood gates opening up on submitted petitions?

Well maybe it's not too coincidental now that I think about it. I mean to be honest, right before Trump was inaugurated, so many cases with scan dates from November finally got CC, and now it's gotten silent. I've seen only a handful of CC's with scan dates from Dec and there are still many from the end of Nov waiting to get CC. So far I've seen 3 VJ members who have been waiting 10,11, and now 12 weeks have to involve their senator or congressman/woman. This is just sickening! I'm so ready for this to be over and get back to my family. 

[Ahmed & Amy 291]

Just now, yuna628 said:

Spousal visa times are very different than K1 times. The process is completely different. Any additional slowdowns many be case specific, especially with those from the middle-east.

As for any slowdown starting in November-December, it always happens that way. It's a period of many holidays for the federal government and an overall lack of productivity. CSC still remains fast and within stated guidelines in handling K1 cases. It's not at all like it used to be.

I've seen nationalities that are not from ME countries. Ukraine, UK, and Germany.

 

The slowdown I can understand and they've said that they received tons of mail at the end of the year. But it still doesn't explain some of the very lengthy wait times that some have endured that are not related to ME countries, or being check-listed. 

[SkruDe 311]

10 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Spousal visa times are very different than K1 times. The process is completely different. Any additional slowdowns many be case specific, especially with those from the middle-east.

As for any slowdown starting in November-December, it always happens that way. It's a period of many holidays for the federal government and an overall lack of productivity. CSC still remains fast and within stated guidelines in handling K1 cases. It's not at all like it used to be.

Thank you for your response.  That does help me clear up some of the wondering and questions I had.

I check those graphs and the USCIS status website everyday

[JFH 12,190]

7 minutes ago, Ahmed & Amy said:

I've seen nationalities that are not from ME countries. Ukraine, UK, and Germany.

 

The slowdown I can understand and they've said that they received tons of mail at the end of the year. But it still doesn't explain some of the very lengthy wait times that some have endured that are not related to ME countries, or being check-listed. 

I'm surprised the U.K. didn't make it into Trump's list (which was also Obama's list). I can think of three British people who have attempted to kill or have succeeded in killing Americans since 9/11. Richard Reid (shoe-bomber) who attempted to blow up an American Airlines plane over the Atlantic with explosives in his shoes. "Jihadi John" - the British man who was shown on ISIS videos beheading American (and other western) hostages. The young man who recently tried to kill Donald Trump in Las Vegas. And let's not forget that the whole "liquid bomb plot" (where individuals planned to board aircraft with explosives disguised as soft drinks) originated in the U.K. British citizens have been responsible for carrying out and planning to carry out some of the worst atrocities against USCs in recent times. But we are still welcomed with open arms. 

[Transborderwife 4,666]

I think that the timeline was basically because attention was taken off of naturalization applicants (elections over...no need) and back to redistribution among the different classes

[Marco&Bettina 502]

36 minutes ago, JFH said:

I'm surprised the U.K. didn't make it into Trump's list (which was also Obama's list). I can think of three British people who have attempted to kill or have succeeded in killing Americans since 9/11. Richard Reid (shoe-bomber) who attempted to blow up an American Airlines plane over the Atlantic with explosives in his shoes. "Jihadi John" - the British man who was shown on ISIS videos beheading American (and other western) hostages. The young man who recently tried to kill Donald Trump in Las Vegas. And let's not forget that the whole "liquid bomb plot" (where individuals planned to board aircraft with explosives disguised as soft drinks) originated in the U.K. British citizens have been responsible for carrying out and planning to carry out some of the worst atrocities against USCs in recent times. But we are still welcomed with open arms. 

Because there is no real war on terrorism. It's all a guise. They have their own hidden agenda. The war machine must keep rolling at all costs. How would it look if America banned and tried to wage war against UK, Saudi, and UAE, among other countries? But it's easy to target such countries as Iran and Iraq and invade countries like Afghanistan and have hidden operations inside Pakistan. It's a ruse. Always has been; always will be.

[JFH 12,190]

1 hour ago, Marco&Bettina said:

Because there is no real war on terrorism. It's all a guise. They have their own hidden agenda. The war machine must keep rolling at all costs. How would it look if America banned and tried to wage war against UK, Saudi, and UAE, among other countries? But it's easy to target such countries as Iran and Iraq and invade countries like Afghanistan and have hidden operations inside Pakistan. It's a ruse. Always has been; always will be.

Absolutely true! My "surprise" that the U.K. wasn't on the list was sarcastic. If this were really about "war on terror" and protecting the USA then the U.K. would stand no chance of its citizens being able to enter the country. 

 

It's interesting that I am not seen as an immigrant here. The perception seems to be that immigrants are not white and don't speak English fluently. In shops people assume I'm a tourist but the Asian or Mexican person behind me will not be asked how long they are visiting for when the assistant tries to strike up conversation when it's their turn at the register. When I answer the phone at work with my British accent customers assume the call has been routed through to a U.K. office and will always start with "oh I'm calling from the United States and I was wanting to speak with someone in the Seattle office..." but when the lady who sits behind me answers the phone (also arrived here on a spousal visa but is from Mexico) they never assume that the call has been routed to a Mexican office. If I tell callers I'm in the Seattle office, many don't believe me (why would I lie???) but there is never any question whether my Mexican co-worker is in our office. 

 

It seems to be beyond their comprehension here that immigrants come from developed, English-speaking countries too. I guess the same applies to the U.K. in that "immigrant" has adopted a very negative connotation and is used almost as a synonym for "unwelcome visitor", "job stealer" and even "illegal". I remember telling a co-worker in the U.K. before I left that I was leaving to move to my husband in the USA and what a long process it was. She asked if that meant I was getting an American passport. I told her that I would have an immigrant visa. Immediately the word "immigrant" set off alarm bells with her and she asked if it meant I would be living in a tent waiting for them to decide where to put me, like the camps in northern France. 

Edited February 14, 2017 by JFH

[Leo7777 243]

1 hour ago, Marco&Bettina said:

Because there is no real war on terrorism. It's all a guise. They have their own hidden agenda. The war machine must keep rolling at all costs. How would it look if America banned and tried to wage war against UK, Saudi, and UAE, among other countries? But it's easy to target such countries as Iran and Iraq and invade countries like Afghanistan and have hidden operations inside Pakistan. It's a ruse. Always has been; always will be.

Marco, it is easy to get caught up in conspiracy theories.  I have noticed in my lifetime that some people are very susceptible to such.

 

But think here man!!  We have had several different administrations with completely different people in charge who have completely different ideas about most everything imaginable.

 

And yet you think though all these tremendous changes in people that there is this one thing . . . guise and ruse with respect to terrorism . . . than continues on uninterrupted??

[Ahmed & Amy 291]

5 minutes ago, JFH said:

Absolutely true! My "surprise" that the U.K. wasn't on the list was sarcastic. If this were really about "war on terror" and protecting the USA then the U.K. would stand no chance of its citizens being able to enter the country. 

 

It's interesting that I am not seen as an immigrant here. The perception seems to be that immigrants are not white and don't speak English fluently. In shops people assume I'm a tourist but the Asian or Mexican person behind me will not be asked how long they are visiting for when the assistant tries to strike up conversation when it's their turn at the register. When I answer the phone at work with my British accent customers assume the call has been routed through to a U.K. office and will always start with "oh I'm calling from the United States and I was wanting to speak with someone in the Seattle office..." but when the lady who sits behind me answers the phone (also arrived here on a spousal visa but is from Mexico) they never assume that the call has been routed to a Mexican office. If I tell callers I'm in the Seattle office, many don't believe me (why would I lie???) but there is never any question whether my Mexican co-worker is in our office. 

 

It seems to be beyond their comprehension here that immigrants come from developed, English-speaking countries too. I guess the same applies to the U.K. in that "immigrant" has adopted a very negative connotation and is used almost as a synonym for "unwelcome visitor", "job stealer" and even "illegal". I remember telling a co-worker in the U.K. before I left that I was leaving to move to my husband in the USA and what a long process it was. She asked if that meant I was getting an American passport. I told her that I would have an immigrant visa. Immediately the word "immigrant" set off alarm bells with her and she asked if it meant I would be living in a tent waiting for them to decide where to put me, like the camps in northern France. 

That's interesting that she thought that. 

Unfortunately many people have a negative opinion on immigration, but it's mainly out of ignorance and the lack of knowledge and understanding of immigration itself. For the longest time my mom thought my husband could just get on a plane and we could all live together happily ever after in the US so 'easily', because I'm a USC; she didn't understand the immigration process nor how other nationals enter the US. But when I had to explain to her, that it doesn't matter that I'm his wife and USC, we still must file for immigration, she was shocked. Well... now she knows. 

[Marco&Bettina 502]

6 minutes ago, Leo7777 said:

Marco, it is easy to get caught up in conspiracy theories.  I have noticed in my lifetime that some people are very susceptible to such.

 

But think here man!!  We have had several different administrations with completely different people in charge who have completely different ideas about most everything imaginable.

 

And yet you think though all these tremendous changes in people that there is this one thing . . . guise and ruse with respect to terrorism . . . than continues on uninterrupted??

You think I started thinking like this because of Trump? I've thought like this since Bush.