Trump's future immigration policies- speculation MEGATHREAD

[FloridaMinsk 88]

2 hours ago, zuluweta said:

Touché. Why is it that right wing Republicans only discover empathy when they are personally affected by an issue? There are a slew of homophobic right wing Republicans who suddenly were for same-sex marriage once one of their children outed themselves? 

 

The rabid supporters of Trump's Muslim ban would be ranting to no end if their fiances from Eastern Europe were subjected to extreme vetting. Trust that.

 

You mean how obama had made it hard on Eastern Europeans?   As he favoured muslims.  

[FloridaMinsk 88]

6 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Did you really just say that the companies spoke out against the ban because if they do not then they will have repercussions from the media ?
You can't be serious

 

Buzzfeed went on a corporate witch hunt.

But hey this never happens right?   

 

Buzzfeed is NBC btw.  

 

https://www.google.com/amp/twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/01/30/kneel-before-buzzfeed-buzzfeed-goes-on-corporate-witch-hunt-over-muslimban-is-hilariously-mocked/amp/?client=safari

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

What I find disturbing is that you are troubled over buzzfeed calling out companies for a statement and you say it is bullying yet where is your outrage on Trump's bullying of women and the disabled reporter ? He is the bully in chief.  

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Republicans Begin to Break With President Trump - TIME
https://apple.news/AA3CXSC_3S0KdIStR3iMV6w

 

The honeymoon is appearantly over.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

In case anyone wants the facts.  400 green cardholders were detained and 1 was denied entry.  

 

http://www.wtol.com/story/34385424/ap-fact-check-trump-claims-on-travel-ban-misleading-wrong

 

 

[FloridaMinsk 88]

6 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

What I find disturbing is that you are troubled over buzzfeed calling out companies for a statement and you say it is bullying yet where is your outrage on Trump's bullying of women and the disabled reporter ? He is the bully in chief.  

 

He has bullied no one.   The disabled reporter thing has been proven time and again to be made up fake news. 

[FloridaMinsk 88]

6 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Republicans Begin to Break With President Trump - TIME
https://apple.news/AA3CXSC_3S0KdIStR3iMV6w

 

The honeymoon is appearantly over.

 

You are holding on tight to any hope of division aren't you.    There is no division since there has never been any religious test.   But please don't let the facts stop you from making up your own story.    

 

 

 

[FloridaMinsk 88]

1 hour ago, LionessDeon said:

In case anyone wants the facts.  400 green cardholders were detained and 1 was denied entry.  

 

http://www.wtol.com/story/34385424/ap-fact-check-trump-claims-on-travel-ban-misleading-wrong

 

 

 

It says they were delayed.   Not detailed.  That could mean anything....   maybe just extra questions.    Would be interesting to see more on this number.

 

thanks for posting 

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

Unsubscribing to this thread... so tired of reading blanket statements about people of different groups, denial of facts and upholding of debunked information. I thought this would be a good place for discussing the affect that Trump's EO's are actually having on people in this forum. It's instead turned into a thread for forwarding one person's political agenda. Peace and out.

[Delirium 114]

13 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Not irrelevant, did you not know that McCain and Graham specifically spoke out against the Trump "whatever you want to call it ban" just

today ? You said anyone speaking out against it is basically a democrat. Not so, more republicans coming forward.
Trump wanted a Muslim ban that is a fact. It was one of his major campaign promises. He delivered it for his voter base as a token
gift and in 90 days he may take it back. What has been accomplished by it ? Nothing but chaos and a false sense of accomplishment
with the voters. It pacifies them.

Miller and Bannon drafted and rushed this mad EO through. Priebus finally had to do damage control with reversing the ban

for GC holders after the fact. No one thought of it beforehand because they don't understand immigration. It's like a plumber
running a bakery.
Had they let the relevant agencies do a review it would not have affected GC holders. Trump, Miller and Bannon look like the 3 Stooges.

What an embarrassment.

 

Agreed. It's painfully obvious that the EO was extremely rushed. There's no one who can deny that I believe.

[Delirium 114]

12 hours ago, FloridaMinsk said:

 

You mean how obama had made it hard on Eastern Europeans?   As he favoured muslims.  

Obama suspended the refugee program in Iraq for 6 months in 2011.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

39 minutes ago, Delirium said:

Obama suspended the refugee program in Iraq for 6 months in 2011.

THE FACTS: That's not exactly what happened. According to State Department data, 9,388 Iraqi refugees were admitted to the United States during the 2011 budget year. The data also show that Iraqi refugees were admitted every month during the 2011 calendar year.   - AP Fact Check

 

First, Obama responded to an actual threat — the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bombmaking in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, was a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries named in his order.)

Second, Obama did not announce a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano’s answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it had a policy to halt all applications. Indeed, it is now clear that no ban was put in place. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval. - Latest.com

Edited January 31, 2017 by LionessDeon

[Delirium 114]

1 minute ago, LionessDeon said:

THE FACTS: That's not exactly what happened. According to State Department data, 9,388 Iraqi refugees were admitted to the United States during the 2011 budget year. The data also show that Iraqi refugees were admitted every month during the 2011 calendar year.   - AP Fact Check

 

First, Obama responded to an actual threat — the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bombmaking in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, was a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries named in his order.)

Second, Obama did not announce a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano’s answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it had a policy to halt all applications. Indeed, it is now clear that no ban was put in place. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval. - Latest.com

I'm not at all trying to compare Trump's Ban to Obama's actions...I made the statement to combat FloridaMinsk's post that made it out to look like Obama favored Muslims over Eastern Europeans.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/trumps-faulty-refugee-policy-comparison/

 

Here are the differences. Note that there was no chaos.
Obama's policy went smoothly and in cooperation with the relevant agencies.
It was not the same policy as we seen from Trump.
 

[Delirium 114]

2 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/trumps-faulty-refugee-policy-comparison/

 

Here are the differences. Note that there was no chaos.
Obama's policy went smoothly and in cooperation with the relevant agencies.
It was not the same policy as we seen from Trump.
 

I completely understand and agree!  I was just trying to combat a post that was biased towards Obama in favor of Trump.