B2 visa rejected twice. Can I reapply? Please help.

[ConOfficer 167]

8 hours ago, JFH said:

In any event, the CO (probably quite justifiably) does not see your "online business" as a legitimate tie. It sounds like it operates from a laptop in your spare room. You appear to have no inventory and basically wait for a customer to buy something from you and then you rush to get it and send it to them. Sounds more like an eBay hobby. The cash-flow sounds very weak as you wait until you have an order before you purchase that which has been ordered. It's the kind of thing that could end tomorrow. You are basically a shopping service for people too lazy to source the item themselves. 

Agree with this. It's easier to assess the economic situation of someone in a recognizable profession - doctor, lawyer, call center agent etc. We know how much people in different industries make and their future earning potential. An entrepreneur is going to have a more difficult time unless they can show that their business has solid cash flow or several direct employees.

 

It sounds to me like you're from a wealthy family and have the means and desire to travel. Nobody would give a 20-something Brit or Australian a hard time about taking off 4-5 months from work to travel, but you don't have the right passport. And as the 2nd officer mentioned, you didn't give him/her a good enough reason to overturn the prior refusal. I'd wait another year or so as others advised. 

[jayu 21]

On 6/26/2017 at 5:34 AM, Cherie1215 said:

Hi I went for my first interview in May. These are my interview questions. I'm 23, self employed running a business for 4 years. I travel 2-3 times a year with a good travel record including UK and Australia.  Went to US last year under J1 never overstay. All my family members are here with me. 

 

My DS160 was screwed during first time because I didn't know I need to put self employed. Set travel period 2 months with self financing. 

 

Why do u want to go to USA
- For visiting

 

How long do u want to go 
- two months 

 

So you're graduated but unemployed?
- I am doing an online business 

 

What kind of business ? What do u sell?
- I sell clothes, bags, shoes and beauty products 

 

How long have u been doing it?
- 4 years 

 

Where do u get your stocks from ?
- china 

 

What is your monthly income?
- three to four thousands (in my currency MYR)

 

(I have two bank accounts. She only reviewed the one with lower balance) 

 

Do you have a business model? 
- no because order when the customer place order.

 

What is your monthly income? 
- three to four thousand 

 

Sorry I can't proceed your visa under 214(b).

 

 

I went for my second interview after one month. This time I put 17 days duration, parent financing, self employed under business and traveling with a friend. These are my questions. 

 

I see you have failed a visa before?
- yes as I did not provide sufficient evidence to support my statement for the first time. 

 

(I forgot the question)
- I am planning to travel on the 18/7 to 3/8 with my friend to sfo,la and San Diego. This is a copy of my friend visa... (she immediately said "NO I don't want to see your friends visa. This is about you not your friend. I want to know about you")

 

You have changed you travel duration? (Previous 2 months now 17 days)
- yes I'm planning to travel from 17/7 to 3/8 for 17 days in sfo, la and San Diego.  

 

How has your situation changed? 
- I have a business event to attend in August to China and a few business activities for the next 6 months. I am also traveling to china next year in march with my family. I brought my flight ticket. 

 

She typed a lot on the computer and said sorry she couldn't give me a visa. I asked why, she said because there's no significant change in my profile. 

 

I asked what kind of changes should I have. She said changes like getting married or getting a masters degree. I replied "but I'm a self employed. What can I change" 

 

she said "your financial show a low balance last time" 

 

i told her its because i didnt get to present during my first time but i brought them with me now. However she said it's over because I didn't present it during the interview. 

 

I would like to try for the third time. Is financial changes a changed? She only saw a balance of $1000 during my first interview (I have 2 acc, only review 1) 

 

But now I have approx $7000 balance, $12000 fixed deposit and an investment in equity fund. Didn't not present during my second interview as I was focusing on business plan and family ties. 

 

What are my chances? Any advice please. 

 

Every subsequent interview is using the information you provided in previous interviews and tries to determine "has anything substantially changed".

You can apply for the third time; the question will be "what has substantially changed since last application"?

[Cherie1215 2]

Thank you for the advice everyone. May I ask how can my status of being a self-employed be advantageous if I were to reapply after 6 months or 1 year? What should I work on to enhance my profile or show changes?

[Boiler 45,541]

It can not.

[MacUK 983]

7 hours ago, Cherie1215 said:

Thank you for the advice everyone. May I ask how can my status of being a self-employed be advantageous if I were to reapply after 6 months or 1 year? What should I work on to enhance my profile or show changes?

You can only work with what you have, it sounds like you're asking to be told what you should tell the CO in order to get the visa.

There's only one answer, tell the truth. If your honest answers aren't enough to convince a CO then nobody's going to tell you to make up or fabricate what you think the CO wants to see.

I think that may have been your mistake on your second attempt. You go to the first interview and say you want to visit for two months and get denied. Then, a month later, you try again and say you only want to visit for 17 days. It may be that your travel plans changed for legitimate reasons but to a suspicious CO it may just look like you just changed the duration because you think that's what they want to see and that might make them question your honesty during the whole interview. They might think that your original plan for two months and your second plan for 17 days might both be lies if you can change them so quickly and you actually plan to stay for a lot longer than 17 days or two months.

It's a COs job to be suspicious.

 

Unfortunately that means a lot of innocent people suffer if they can't convince the CO of their innocence.

[Cherie1215 2]

Hi everyone, 

 

Its been a few months and I believe there is a changes in my profile but I am not sure if it will help me.

 

1. I have traveled to other country for vacation and came home.

2. I am now fully focusing on selling beauty products and accessories (leather shoes/bags), no longer selling clothes. All ready stocks on hand.

3. I have collaborated with new supplier in my country to sell other new beauty products. 

4. I have build a down-line distributors team of 10 which I did not have back then. (MLM).

5. My monthly income has increased due to the new products that i am selling and also the expansion of distribution team.

6. I am able to afford the trip (have always been able to afford).

 

Are these a significant changed to overturn the previous refusal? Would appreciate any insight. Thank you.

[BuiQuang 95]

3 hours ago, Cherie1215 said:

Hi everyone, 

 

Its been a few months and I believe there is a changes in my profile but I am not sure if it will help me.

 

1. I have traveled to other country for vacation and came home.

2. I am now fully focusing on selling beauty products and accessories (leather shoes/bags), no longer selling clothes. All ready stocks on hand.

3. I have collaborated with new supplier in my country to sell other new beauty products. 

4. I have build a down-line distributors team of 10 which I did not have back then. (MLM).

5. My monthly income has increased due to the new products that i am selling and also the expansion of distribution team.

6. I am able to afford the trip (have always been able to afford).

 

Are these a significant changed to overturn the previous refusal? Would appreciate any insight. Thank you.

apply find out.  no one can tell u if CO will believe u.  

[Going through 5,671]

4 hours ago, Cherie1215 said:

Hi everyone, 

 

Its been a few months and I believe there is a changes in my profile but I am not sure if it will help me.

 

1. I have traveled to other country for vacation and came home.

2. I am now fully focusing on selling beauty products and accessories (leather shoes/bags), no longer selling clothes. All ready stocks on hand.

3. I have collaborated with new supplier in my country to sell other new beauty products. 

4. I have build a down-line distributors team of 10 which I did not have back then. (MLM).

5. My monthly income has increased due to the new products that i am selling and also the expansion of distribution team.

6. I am able to afford the trip (have always been able to afford).

 

Are these a significant changed to overturn the previous refusal? Would appreciate any insight. Thank you.

Your first application was in May 2017 - denial

Your second application was in June 2017 - denial

Your third application will also be in 2017, a few months later.

 

I think you are probably facing a 3rd denial since you are starting to look desperate to enter the US, and from what you listed above---in my opinion---those are not significant enough changes to show proof of returning to your home country.

[C-ma'am 684]

4 hours ago, Going through said:

Your first application was in May 2017 - denial

Your second application was in June 2017 - denial

Your third application will also be in 2017, a few months later.

 

I think you are probably facing a 3rd denial since you are starting to look desperate to enter the US, and from what you listed above---in my opinion---those are not significant enough changes to show proof of returning to your home country.

I concur

[geowrian 22,337]

Same

[Cherie1215 2]

Hi everyone, thought I would share my experience here. I actually had 3 denials before that. 

 

May 2017 - denial

June 2017 - 2 denials 

 

Despite all the advice given I still went for the interview yesterday on 8/11/2017 (my 4th attempt) because I believe my circumstance have improved so I just want to try again. Fortunately, my visa was approved. The interview was a long and intense one. 

 

Here's the Q & A,

 

- Why do you want to go to the US?

For tourism

 

He scanned my passport.

 

- You have been here many times. 

Yes, this is my fourth time. 

 

- Why do you keep coming back?
My circumstance has improved so I come back. 

 

- How has it changed?
I have save enough funds for my trip and also I have funds that I'm not using for the trip such as FD and investment. I traveled to other country two months ago and came back. I am a distributor of coni beauty which is a malaysia product that was launched last month. 

 

- Why do u think the reason of failing? 

I did not have sufficient savings however I have build up enough funds now for my trip. 

 

- How much have u save?
15 thousand (RM)

 

He was flipping through my passport to see my visa stamps from other countries especially on my J1 visa page for very a long time. 

 

- Why do u keep wanting to go to USA? 
Because I work there last year and the park is really beautiful so I really wish to see it in snow. 

 

- How long are u going?
2 weeks

 

He left his counter with my passport to discuss with his colleague for a very long time (I assume he is discussing it with his colleage). After he came back, he was typing in the computer for very long. 

 

Then he asked

 

- Are u still living with your parents?
Yes

 

- Do u still take money from them?
No I never take money from them since 4 years ago when I was in college because I have my own income from my business. 

 

I saw him grabbing a paper and was feeling so nervous that I will be getting the 214(b) paper again. 

 

"Do not misused the visa or I will come after you" He then pass me the instruction paper on how to collect my passport later on.

 

I was very shocked to hear that and still couldn't believe it till now. It feels so surreal! Right now I'm waiting for the passport to be delivered to my doorstep. 

 

Thank you everyone for the advice, I truly appreciate it! 

[Filguy29 8]

On 6/26/2017 at 12:34 PM, Cherie1215 said:

Hi I went for my first interview in May. These are my interview questions. I'm 23, self employed running a business for 4 years. I travel 2-3 times a year with a good travel record including UK and Australia.  Went to US last year under J1 never overstay. All my family members are here with me. 

 

My DS160 was screwed during first time because I didn't know I need to put self employed. Set travel period 2 months with self financing. 

 

Why do u want to go to USA
- For visiting

 

How long do u want to go 
- two months 

 

So you're graduated but unemployed?
- I am doing an online business 

 

What kind of business ? What do u sell?
- I sell clothes, bags, shoes and beauty products 

 

How long have u been doing it?
- 4 years 

 

Where do u get your stocks from ?
- china 

 

What is your monthly income?
- three to four thousands (in my currency MYR)

 

(I have two bank accounts. She only reviewed the one with lower balance) 

 

Do you have a business model? 
- no because order when the customer place order.

 

What is your monthly income? 
- three to four thousand 

 

Sorry I can't proceed your visa under 214(b).

 

 

I went for my second interview after one month. This time I put 17 days duration, parent financing, self employed under business and traveling with a friend. These are my questions. 

 

I see you have failed a visa before?
- yes as I did not provide sufficient evidence to support my statement for the first time. 

 

(I forgot the question)
- I am planning to travel on the 18/7 to 3/8 with my friend to sfo,la and San Diego. This is a copy of my friend visa... (she immediately said "NO I don't want to see your friends visa. This is about you not your friend. I want to know about you")

 

You have changed you travel duration? (Previous 2 months now 17 days)
- yes I'm planning to travel from 17/7 to 3/8 for 17 days in sfo, la and San Diego.  

 

How has your situation changed? 
- I have a business event to attend in August to China and a few business activities for the next 6 months. I am also traveling to china next year in march with my family. I brought my flight ticket. 

 

She typed a lot on the computer and said sorry she couldn't give me a visa. I asked why, she said because there's no significant change in my profile. 

 

I asked what kind of changes should I have. She said changes like getting married or getting a masters degree. I replied "but I'm a self employed. What can I change" 

 

she said "your financial show a low balance last time" 

 

i told her its because i didnt get to present during my first time but i brought them with me now. However she said it's over because I didn't present it during the interview. 

 

I would like to try for the third time. Is financial changes a changed? She only saw a balance of $1000 during my first interview (I have 2 acc, only review 1) 

 

But now I have approx $7000 balance, $12000 fixed deposit and an investment in equity fund. Didn't not present during my second interview as I was focusing on business plan and family ties. 

 

What are my chances? Any advice please. 

Hello there... we have the same situation I was denied twice last July 2017 applied in Jeddah and last Nov 2017 in Manila during my annual vacation. Here is my background.

 

First application-Jul 2017

Traveled-Singapore, Turkey & Hongkong

 

Second Attempt: Nov 2017-during my annual vacation and again denied with the same slip given to me.

Traveled: Dubai, France, Belgium & Netherlands.

 

At this time, I have a valid Japan Visa (Unused), UK Visa (to travel on April 2018) and Canadian tourist Visa (To travel by July or Aug 2018).

 

During interview, I was like 90% confident bcoz of the current visas that I have. but to sad to say that the CO just get my passport and put only in his table. He never bothered to open it to see or open my passport. I was really disappointed. I would totally understand if he won't ask my supporting docs as this is usually happens but my passport only lying in his table, OMG i feel it was unfair...

 

So I have decided to try on my 3rd times after I will visit UK & Canada nextyr and will apply maybe by sept or oct. Hopefully,  both of us can get B2 visa in our next application.

 

I am an OFW in Saudi Arabia for 5yrs now...