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Hello guys,

 

Briefly my story:

got married to US citizen, at the airport of entry got 10 years green card(because I reached our 2nd anniversary year of marriage),  unfortunately she cheated on me (she admitted it) I couldn't live with this fact. we decided to divorce and stay friends (we still are), because I just couldn't bear it after few months of trying to forget it.
I'm going to apply for citizenship based on the 5 years rule (since I'm divorced).

My question is regarding my residence during my first year, so here what happened:

We lived together for few months, then we had a small argument, then we went to the property management office of our apartment residence and took my name off the rent lease.

then we went back to normal after 1 day (BUT we forgot to re-add my name to the rent lease again. until today I remembered that I completely forgot to do so).

then after we came back to normal, we continued to live together happy life as usual (after that small argument).

Few more months later (after she did what she did), we decided to divorce like I stated above, so we decided to divorce and we officially separated and I moved out of the apartment to my new apartment (to live in an individual home with an old grand pa from craigslist).

About a week later I filed for the divorce and put the separation date on the divorce application.

A month later got the divorce decision.
 

Continued to live my life and try to forget and build a new life which still being friend with her (I don't hate her but I just couldn't forget).

now I'll apply for the citizenship soon, and here is my question:

What would I put in the application for my first year residence? because of when we took my name out of the rent lease (after that small argument we had)... I think I will put that I stayed in the same address with my ex-wife till we decided to separate when I moved out, just like what really happened.
Or do you guys think the IO will contact that management office and find out if my name was on the rent lease? then they deny my citizenship because it's considered a lie? ...but I really stayed with her living happily after that small argument until we separated! even all my bank accounts still had the same address, and I only changed them after we separated and moved out.

Or best I mention it to the IO at the interview that we forgot to add our name back to the rent lease?

Or the IO wouldn't confirm all my addresses of my last 5 years and all will be fine? ...since I lived in 2 places where you just pay your monthly rent with no rent agreement or anything, so there is no way they can check that.

Or BEST I just wait for several more months until my 5 years of residence start to count AFTER we separated (to avoid that name taken thing all together) ?

Ps: I'm curious if they really check for every single address you put in the application during the last 5 years for n-400 based on 5 years rule?..
If anyone had similar experience would be greatly appreciated to share your story

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I don't see why you should put anything but the actual address you lived at for the first year, anything else would be a lie. If you're concerned they won't be able to verify the address, then just wait a few more months until that address drops off the 5 year window.

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3 hours ago, sd2017 said:

I don't see why you should put anything but the actual address you lived at for the first year, anything else would be a lie. If you're concerned they won't be able to verify the address, then just wait a few more months until that address drops off the 5 year window.

Thanks for the reply. Yes I want to use that address because it's where I actually lived with her. So technically I lived there but legally not, because we took my name off the rent lease and forgot to put it back in (after that little argument we had). So my concern is that it might be a problem? If the IO figure it out? Or the IO won't bother to contact the landlord management office to check? 

Or should I put I lived in my car for few months? lol because IO only believe in what's on papers 

But the thing is: even my bank accounts were still using that address as I didn't change their physical address 

The bottom line: do IO check the addresses we put on n-400 and bother to call landlords? 

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1 hour ago, smerfb23 said:

Thanks for the reply. Yes I want to use that address because it's where I actually lived with her. So technically I lived there but legally not, because we took my name off the rent lease and forgot to put it back in (after that little argument we had). So my concern is that it might be a problem? If the IO figure it out? Or the IO won't bother to contact the landlord management office to check? 

Or should I put I lived in my car for few months? lol because IO only believe in what's on papers 

But the thing is: even my bank accounts were still using that address as I didn't change their physical address 

The bottom line: do IO check the addresses we put on n-400 and bother to call landlords? 

Who knows if the IO verifies such things? But, I think if you're sufficiently worried about this that you would consider lying on your form, then I would simply wait to submit your naturalization application.

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I can wait for several more months till it becomes out of the 5 years window, but at the same time I'm worrying that trump might change the citizenship laws and makes it even harder lol 

You know what? I don't think they will check addresses we put on, especially since it's based on 5 years and not on 4 years where marriage is involved.

So I think I'll just put that address as where I actually lived. If the IO denies me because me not being in the rent lease, then I'll wait another year and apply without it in the 5 years window. 

But once again, there is NO WAY they can check if you lived in a given address IF you're not having an agreement with the landlord and you're just paying him/her rent (ie: most Craigslist rooms for rent ads) 

so I wonder why they ask for something they can not check

I wish some ex IO worker reads my post and elaborate for us on how they go about it :)

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Whatever you do, do not lie.  You lived where you lived, and that's the truth.  In the remote event that a question about it comes up, explain just as you've explained it to us here.  Just avoid overthinking things to the point where you get yourself in deep trouble for lying.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Whatever you do, do not lie.  You lived where you lived, and that's the truth.  In the remote event that a question about it comes up, explain just as you've explained it to us here.  Just avoid overthinking things to the point where you get yourself in deep trouble for lying.

I agree, telling the truth is definitely the right choice.

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12 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Whatever you do, do not lie.  You lived where you lived, and that's the truth.  In the remote event that a question about it comes up, explain just as you've explained it to us here.  Just avoid overthinking things to the point where you get yourself in deep trouble for lying.

Thanks for the reply, and yes I agree with you.

I'll of definitely say the truth, but hopefully the IO won't be like: "can you prove it?" .. then I'm not sure how to prove it. But yeah I don't think he would be a jerk and ask me such thing

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