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Jon Ossoff loss shows 'massive failure' of party's elites

Progressives insist Ossoff’s ‘Republican-lite’ message turned voters off

‘He didn’t have a core progressive message. He didn’t stand for anything’

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/21/jon-ossoff-georgia-democrats-party-establishment

 

“This is a massive failure of the DNC leadership. They enabled the same old pattern and the same old way of doing things. It was a re-entrenchment. It was like act two of 2016.”

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Jon Ossoff loss shows 'massive failure' of party's elites

Progressives insist Ossoff’s ‘Republican-lite’ message turned voters off

‘He didn’t have a core progressive message. He didn’t stand for anything’

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/21/jon-ossoff-georgia-democrats-party-establishment

 

“This is a massive failure of the DNC leadership. They enabled the same old pattern and the same old way of doing things. It was a re-entrenchment. It was like act two of 2016.”

They honestly don't have a clue as to how to pull in anyone except overly emotional liberals.

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I prefer the term Progressives, being a Liberal myself I do not like to be associated with such people.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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14 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Jon Ossoff loss shows 'massive failure' of party's elites

Progressives insist Ossoff’s ‘Republican-lite’ message turned voters off

‘He didn’t have a core progressive message. He didn’t stand for anything’

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/21/jon-ossoff-georgia-democrats-party-establishment

 

This is a massive failure of the DNC leadership. They enabled the same old pattern and the same old way of doing things. It was a re-entrenchment. It was like act two of 2016.”

 

The DNC has no leadership at the moment, and it is showing. The Guardian is right. If they want to get their base back, they need to stop playing the Republican-light message, and get back to business. You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. They need to shake things up.

 

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5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I prefer the term Progressives, being a Liberal myself I do not like to be associated with such people.

That's my problem as well.. politically I identify more, particularly socially, with liberals, but I can't identify with their stupidity and tantrums. I gave them a pass during the Bush years because Bush was a POS as President (a con man who ran as a compassionate conservative, diplomat, and fiscal conservative, yet was none), but now they've taken it too far.

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I also notice my fights are a lot more intense with lefty liberals than with those on the right. A lot of it stems from all the years I spent in SF and the Bay Area, and lefties going nuts at any perceived liberal who didn't tow their line and dared disagree with them. I kinda got fed up of the stupidity and phony "tolerance" mantra. The left are only as deep as skin color, as shown with Obama and Trump's elections. Once you dig deeper, into thought and personal diversity, the left are as hateful and discriminatory as they get. I've got no time for fanaticism.

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41 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

You're the one who said the election was for sale, not me. 

Nope never said that either. A second ago you said I said Handel tried to buy. Never said any of those things. If it had been for sale she would have lost 

 

Is that you John McCain

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26 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I prefer the term Progressives, being a Liberal myself I do not like to be associated with such people.

Old School Liberal.

 

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26 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

The DNC has no leadership at the moment, and it is showing. The Guardian is right. If they want to get their base back, they need to stop playing the Republican-light message, and get back to business. You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. They need to shake things up.

 

You mean a DNC chair dropping "S" bombs isn't leadership?

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10 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Old School Liberal.

 

:D

Proper Liberal I prefer.

23 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I also notice my fights are a lot more intense with lefty liberals than with those on the right. A lot of it stems from all the years I spent in SF and the Bay Area, and lefties going nuts at any perceived liberal who didn't tow their line and dared disagree with them. I kinda got fed up of the stupidity and phony "tolerance" mantra. The left are only as deep as skin color, as shown with Obama and Trump's elections. Once you dig deeper, into thought and personal diversity, the left are as hateful and discriminatory as they get. I've got no time for fanaticism.

I spent some time in San Fran, nothing Liberal there.

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Proper Liberal I prefer.

Fair enough. 

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36 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Nope never said that either. A second ago you said I said Handel tried to buy. Never said any of those things. If it had been for sale she would have lost 

 

Is that you John McCain

 

Actually, are you sure you're not McCain? LOL. 

 

You're the one who's walking back on a statement.

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12 minutes ago, Boiler said:

 

I spent some time in San Fran, nothing Liberal there.

 

The only people who claim SF to be liberal are those who never been there, and talk out of their misinformed bias. 

22 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

You mean a DNC chair dropping "S" bombs isn't leadership?

 

I don't know. Is it?

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Bought the election , yet she was massively out spent. 

 

Go back to blaming Russians. It's not nearly as bizzare 

Personally I blame CNN, they swooned and said Ossoff spoke just like Obama. 

 

I reckon the voters rebelled after hearing that :jest:

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