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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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A lawyer recommended the same to us but we opted for the K-1  ...

... technically you are not allowed to travel to USA with the intent to get married - this can be considered illegal if they can prove it. There is also a waiting period before you can get married - I think 3 months.  

 

Also, I actually don't think that you are able to apply for the EAD unless you actually have a Visa: work or K-1 but you need a visa ... which would mean until your AOS is not approved you cannot apply for EAD. Having a K-1 allows you to apply faster for the EAD.

 

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2 minutes ago, Lola B said:

A lawyer recommended the same to us but we opted for the K-1  ...

... technically you are not allowed to travel to USA with the intent to get married - this can be considered illegal if they can prove it. There is also a waiting period before you can get married - I think 3 months.  

 

Also, I actually don't think that you are able to apply for the EAD unless you actually have a Visa: work or K-1 but you need a visa ... which would mean until your AOS is not approved you cannot apply for EAD. Having a K-1 allows you to apply faster for the EAD.

 

No no no.

 

Anyone can marry in the US, no immigration status needed. Entering with the intent to stay is what's illegal (without immigrant visa).

 

A pending AOS allows for EAD, no prior visa needed.

 

If it isn't difficult, it isn't worth it.

 

K1 process

9/24/15: I129f sent

9/30/15: NOA1

11/2/15: NOA2

Delayed processing due to work

3/15/16: Medical

4/28/16: Interview (approved)

Delayed entry due to work

8/12/16: POE Detroit

 

9/4/16: Wedding!

 

AOS process:

9/9/16: I485/I131/I765 sent

9/14/16: Received 3xNOAs by text/e-mail (day 2)

9/14-18/16: Received 3xpaper NOAs 

9/23/16: Received biometrics appointment letter (day 11)

10/3/16: Biometrics appointment (day 19)

11/4/16: EAD+AP approved (day 53)

11/16/16: EAD status changed to card shipped (day 65)

11/17/16: EAD/AP combo card received (day 66)

12/30/16: Notice of interview scheduled (day 109)

2/1/17: AOS interview (day 142) - APPROVED

2/8/17: GC received (day 150)

 

ROC process:

11/3/2018: ROC window opens

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My understanding is that if you enter from Canada, you enter without an immigrant visa, if you enter with intent to marry, it's an intent to stay. 

This is why there is a minimum of 3 months (if I remember well) before you can actually get married otherwise it can be consider as fraud. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lola B said:

A lawyer recommended the same to us but we opted for the K-1  ...

... technically you are not allowed to travel to USA with the intent to get married - this can be considered illegal if they can prove it. There is also a waiting period before you can get married - I think 3 months.  

 

Also, I actually don't think that you are able to apply for the EAD unless you actually have a Visa: work or K-1 but you need a visa ... which would mean until your AOS is not approved you cannot apply for EAD. Having a K-1 allows you to apply faster for the EAD.

 

just wrong - all of it.

1. Intent is determined at POE - it's not illegal to decide to marry and AOS while in the US. (It's not illegal to enter to marry either, only if you have intent to AOS.

2. No waiting period - You probably mean the 30-60-90 rule of thumb.

3. Perfectly fine to apply for EAD - it will be on basis of pending AOS (i-485, (c )(9 ))

4. No doesn't allow you to apply faster, it's the same as anyone else.

1 minute ago, Lola B said:

My understanding is that if you enter from Canada, you enter without an immigrant visa, if you enter with intent to marry, it's an intent to stay. 

This is why there is a minimum of 3 months (if I remember well) before you can actually get married otherwise it can be consider as fraud. 

 

 

again - no this is not correct.

K1 Visa & AOS

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2016-03-19         i-129F Sent
2016-03-24         i-129F NOA1
2016-06-14         i-129F NOA2
2016-07-08         NVC Rec'd
2016-07-12         Case #
2016-07-13         NVC Left
2016-07-14         Consulate Rec'd
2016-07-19         Medical
2016-08-11         Interview Date (approved)
2016-09-06         Issued
2016-09-09         Visa In Hand
2016-10-19         POE Dallas Fort-Worth
2016-10-30         Our Halloween Wedding

2016-11-16         AOS package sent (i-485, i-131, i-765, i-864, g-325a, DS-3025)
2016-11-17         AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox
2016-11-23         NOA1's by e-mail and text (@ 10:30 pm CT)
2016-11-26         NOA1 hard copies
2016-12-03         Biometrics appointment in mail
2016-12-07         Biometrics (Early walk-in Desoto, appointment was for Dec 13th)

2017-02-17         Notice of card in production by email and text (@8:00 am CT, i-765) - Day 92

2017-02-22         Notice of approval by email and text (@1:00 pm CT, i-765 and i-131) - Day 97

2017-02-22         Notice of card being mailed by email and text (@7:00 pm CT, i-765) - Day 97

2017-02-25         EAD/AP combo card arrived in mail - Day 100

2017-03-03         Notice of green card in production by email and text (@4:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-03         Notice of approval by email and text (@6:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-11          Green card arrived in mail  - Day 113

2018-12-03          First day to file for ROC (i-751)

 

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4 minutes ago, Lola B said:

My understanding is that if you enter from Canada, you enter without an immigrant visa, if you enter with intent to marry, it's an intent to stay. 

This is why there is a minimum of 3 months (if I remember well) before you can actually get married otherwise it can be consider as fraud.

No....none of that is right. It makes no difference where you enter the US from...entering with intent to marry is fine, but entering with intent to stay/AOS is fraud. Canadians generally are not heavily scrutinized for immigrant intent, but the same rules apply.

There is no 3 month wait whatsoever for either marriage or immigration purposes (unless the state where you plan to marry has any such requirement...but I doubt any US state has that long of a wait).

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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... and i guess i was referring to 30, 60, 90days rule for adjustment of status in other words it is longer. You need to wait 90days to be safe before applying for AOS etc... As said case by case personal decison, always a challenge! Cheers ;)

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19 minutes ago, Lola B said:

... and i guess i was referring to 30, 60, 90days rule for adjustment of status in other words it is longer. You need to wait 90days to be safe before applying for AOS etc... As said case by case personal decison, always a challenge! Cheers ;)

 

 

No such rule, a common misunderstanding that has been dealt with on here many many times.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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37 minutes ago, Lola B said:

... and i guess i was referring to 30, 60, 90days rule for adjustment of status in other words it is longer. You need to wait 90days to be safe before applying for AOS etc... As said case by case personal decison, always a challenge! Cheers ;)

No, you don't. The "rule" is a DOS item, not USCIS. But they don't matter anyway as intent is established at POE and is not cause for a denial of AOS, according to Matter of Battista and Matter of Cavazos.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Jeepers peoples...

OP go ahead and marry.  Obviously this wasn't your intent when entering!

Apply for AOS as soon as you have a copy of the marriage certificate, tgat way in about 3-4 months with AP you can return to grab your cat and bring some stuff with you.  

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
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Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
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Cards Received02-22-11
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I'm a bit surpised at this thread as I didn't know a foreigner could get married in America then adjust for status and stay in American for the entire process. I understand the part where you go to America on a tourist visa, find love, get married, and adjust for status. But I thought the person still had to leave the country  at the conclusion of their visa.

 

Reading this site says it is indeed possible to travel to America on a tourist visa, find love, get married, adjust for status, and convince the immigration officer it was not preconceived, but that it's also difficult. Nevertheless, obviously Canada is a low risk country a long with being a visa waiver country so the OP would be good to go.

 

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Occasionally, people do get married in the United States while on a tourist visa. They successfully adjust their status to permanent resident without having to return home. How does this happen? The trick to changing status from a tourist visa or visa waiver is to prove that there was no premeditated intention to get married, but it was a spontaneous decision. Convincing the immigration officials that the marriage was not intentional and persuading them to allow a change of status is difficult, but not impossible.

https://www.prideimmigration.com/marry-us-citizen-tourist-visa/

 

 

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Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

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