It’s now clear US voting is hackable. Here are 6 things we must do to prevent chaos.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/6/16/15816510/voting-security-hacks-russia-georgia-election

Updated by Suzanne Mello-Stark  Jun 16, 2017, 10:50am EDT

 

There’s never a good time, politically speaking, to raise questions about our voting system’s vulnerability to hackers. But we can no longer avoid the issue.

Bloomberg News reported this week that the US government determined that Russian hackers penetrated the voting systems in 39 states in the weeks leading up to the November 2016 election. The hacks did not involve changing votes — typically they were forays into voter registration databases — but in at least one case, in Illinois, the hackers tried to delete voter data, Bloomberg reported.

US officials complained to the Russians, who denied involvement, but President Obama decided not to alert the public, because he didn’t want people to lose faith in the system.

To this day, President Trump’s aides suggest that Democrats who call for an investigation into Russian hacking are sore losers. But the evidence that Russia attempted to influence our 2016 election has become unignorable. In January 2017, the CIA, FBI, and NSA jointly released an assessment that Russia used cyber tools to influence American public opinion (specifically, to “denigrate Secretary Clinton”).

And the Bloomberg piece was only one of several bombshells about compromised American voting systems to land this month. The Intercept obtained an NSA document that described in detail how Russian military hackers — not amateurs — mounted a phishing attack against an unnamed voting software supplier, then used information it obtained to try the same with local government officials. What the hackers obtained was unclear — and, again, the interference seems to have fallen short of changing votes. Still, the Intercept wrote, “Russian hacking may have penetrated further into US voting systems than was previously understood.”

 

1) Establish audit capability in every precinct

2)Ditch direct-recording electronic voting machines (DREs)

3) Implement stronger safeguards for online registration systems

4) Discourage online voting — at all costs

5) Strengthen the chain of custody

6) Give states more money

[IAMX 3,055]

 

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

37 minutes ago, ccneat said:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/6/16/15816510/voting-security-hacks-russia-georgia-election

Updated by Suzanne Mello-Stark  Jun 16, 2017, 10:50am EDT

 

There’s never a good time, politically speaking, to raise questions about our voting system’s vulnerability to hackers. But we can no longer avoid the issue.

Bloomberg News reported this week that the US government determined that Russian hackers penetrated the voting systems in 39 states in the weeks leading up to the November 2016 election. The hacks did not involve changing votes — typically they were forays into voter registration databases — but in at least one case, in Illinois, the hackers tried to delete voter data, Bloomberg reported.

US officials complained to the Russians, who denied involvement, but President Obama decided not to alert the public, because he didn’t want people to lose faith in the system.

To this day, President Trump’s aides suggest that Democrats who call for an investigation into Russian hacking are sore losers. But the evidence that Russia attempted to influence our 2016 election has become unignorable. In January 2017, the CIA, FBI, and NSA jointly released an assessment that Russia used cyber tools to influence American public opinion (specifically, to “denigrate Secretary Clinton”).

And the Bloomberg piece was only one of several bombshells about compromised American voting systems to land this month. The Intercept obtained an NSA document that described in detail how Russian military hackers — not amateurs — mounted a phishing attack against an unnamed voting software supplier, then used information it obtained to try the same with local government officials. What the hackers obtained was unclear — and, again, the interference seems to have fallen short of changing votes. Still, the Intercept wrote, “Russian hacking may have penetrated further into US voting systems than was previously understood.”

 

1) Establish audit capability in every precinct

2)Ditch direct-recording electronic voting machines (DREs)

3) Implement stronger safeguards for online registration systems

4) Discourage online voting — at all costs

5) Strengthen the chain of custody

6) Give states more money

The best also would be to implement voter id laws. But that's racist so we can't do that. 

[IAMX 3,055]

2 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

The best also would be to implement voter id laws. But that's racist so we can't do that. 

Absolutely not. Non-existent hacking is the real threat. 

 

[Dashinka 24,871]

1 hour ago, ccneat said:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/6/16/15816510/voting-security-hacks-russia-georgia-election

Updated by Suzanne Mello-Stark  Jun 16, 2017, 10:50am EDT

 

There’s never a good time, politically speaking, to raise questions about our voting system’s vulnerability to hackers. But we can no longer avoid the issue.

Bloomberg News reported this week that the US government determined that Russian hackers penetrated the voting systems in 39 states in the weeks leading up to the November 2016 election. The hacks did not involve changing votes — typically they were forays into voter registration databases — but in at least one case, in Illinois, the hackers tried to delete voter data, Bloomberg reported.

US officials complained to the Russians, who denied involvement, but President Obama decided not to alert the public, because he didn’t want people to lose faith in the system.

To this day, President Trump’s aides suggest that Democrats who call for an investigation into Russian hacking are sore losers. But the evidence that Russia attempted to influence our 2016 election has become unignorable. In January 2017, the CIA, FBI, and NSA jointly released an assessment that Russia used cyber tools to influence American public opinion (specifically, to “denigrate Secretary Clinton”).

And the Bloomberg piece was only one of several bombshells about compromised American voting systems to land this month. The Intercept obtained an NSA document that described in detail how Russian military hackers — not amateurs — mounted a phishing attack against an unnamed voting software supplier, then used information it obtained to try the same with local government officials. What the hackers obtained was unclear — and, again, the interference seems to have fallen short of changing votes. Still, the Intercept wrote, “Russian hacking may have penetrated further into US voting systems than was previously understood.”

 

1) Establish audit capability in every precinct

2)Ditch direct-recording electronic voting machines (DREs)

3) Implement stronger safeguards for online registration systems

4) Discourage online voting — at all costs

5) Strengthen the chain of custody

6) Give states more money

 

45 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

The best also would be to implement voter id laws. But that's racist so we can't do that. 

I agree with both of you as we should not allow online voting, and we should also implement voter ID laws.  However, I still don't see the need for all these investigations as we already know what needs to be done as far as strengthening the voting system.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

2 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

The best also would be to implement voter id laws. But that's racist so we can't do that. 

In Ireland you must produce photo id before you can vote, guess we're all racists then. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

4 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

The best also would be to implement voter id laws. But that's racist so we can't do that. 

You have voter is laws and can have them, but the courts have held they cannot be used to Target specific groups. In Texas the court said the law as passed by the legislature would not stand.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

4 hours ago, IAMX said:

 

 

But yet showing a picture ID will disenfranchise millions. So now the MDL is crazy about preventing voter fraud. 🤣🤣

[IAMX 3,055]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

But yet showing a picture ID will disenfranchise millions. So now the MDL is crazy about preventing voter fraud. 🤣🤣

You can tell the made up Russia hacking threat still lingers in their heads highly in the arguments they make 7 months after Trump won. Talk about people with issues.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 hours ago, IAMX said:

You can tell the made up Russia hacking threat still lingers in their heads highly in the arguments they make 7 months after Trump won. Talk about people with issues.

Made up hacking...by us intelligence

[Dashinka 24,871]

11 hours ago, ccneat said:

You have voter is laws and can have them, but the courts have held they cannot be used to Target specific groups. In Texas the court said the law as passed by the legislature would not stand.

I understand what the courts have said, but have any of these laws actually been targeted toward any specific group?  There may be some groups impacted more than others, but I don't remember one legislature coming out and saying we need to suppress votes from one or more specific demographic.   

[Boiler 46,247]

When Obama was in Colorado you needed photo ID to get into his event.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Oddly enough when the cracked down in drunk driving,  drunk drivers were more affected 

[Teddy B 17,252]

14 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

But yet showing a picture ID will disenfranchise millions. So now the MDL is crazy about preventing voter fraud. 🤣🤣

One fraudulent vote is one too many, gotta make sure ole granny from down the street really is who she claims.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I understand what the courts have said, but have any of these laws actually been targeted toward any specific group?  There may be some groups impacted more than others, but I don't remember one legislature coming out and saying we need to suppress votes from one or more specific demographic.   

I invite you to look at the 5th district ruling, it has the answers those questions more eloquently than I can. Texas fixed the laws to accommodate the court .