Trump Attorney: The President Is Not Under Investigation

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If Trump gets impeached and Pence packs it in, what's the worst case scenario for the left?  From what I have read Paul Ryan is next in line and then possibly Orrin Hatch. 

 

Are either of these candidates likely to unify the Republican side and make it tougher for the Democrats for the next few years? 

 

 

The larger factors will be:

1 what the Republican Congress gets done in the next 15 month's, yup we are coming up on midterms 

2 the duration and outcome of the Russia investigation.  This could take two years If political impeachment is in the works.

The best outcome for the Republican brand would be Trump resigns this summer, A whole host of legislation gets done , and that legislation does not tork off the public.  

 

All of that would need to happen and I believe none of this will happen. The democrats are not in much better shape, but they can celebrate that they are not Republicans

Edited June 19, 2017 by ccneat

[IAMX 3,055]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Now Now be fair. They are not always wrong. They predictied lots of butt hurt after the election and predictied some would not accept the results of the election 😆😆😆

I dunno man...

 

 

 

 

 

^ Censored the above tantrum so my post wouldn't be deleted.

Edited June 19, 2017 by IAMX

[CaliCat 3,957]

5 hours ago, ccneat said:

If I were guilty, I would hire him.

 

 

I think Trump agrees with you on that one. 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

52 minutes ago, ccneat said:

The larger factors will be:

1 what the Republican Congress gets done in the next 15 month's, yup we are coming up on midterms 

2 the duration and outcome of the Russia investigation.  This could take two years If political impeachment is in the works.

The best outcome for the Republican brand would be Trump resigns this summer, A whole host of legislation gets done , and that legislation does not tork off the public.  

 

All of that would need to happen and I believe none of this will happen. The democrats are not in much better shape, but they can celebrate that they are not Republicans

Seems fair what you have said with the exception of Trump harming the Republican brand.

 

It will always come back to "what could we do but support Trump or let Clinton win" they have an out. The Democrats only have "We shafted Sanders for Clinton" it might come back and bite them next time round. 

 

Politics is the USA is losing out, no one during the election or now is showering themselves in glory. 

 

Can you see an option for a full third party that could compete? 

[Dashinka 24,871]

10 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If Trump gets impeached and Pence packs it in, what's the worst case scenario for the left?  From what I have read Paul Ryan is next in line and then possibly Orrin Hatch. 

 

Are either of these candidates likely to unify the Republican side and make it tougher for the Democrats for the next few years? 

 

 

Nope.  It doesn't matter who the GOP president is, the Left have found their new strategy to create an investigation which tries to find a crime to fit a narrative they have made up.

[Dashinka 24,871]

8 hours ago, IAMX said:

It's been clear with all the impeachment "news stories" since the day Trump was elected (before he was even inaugurated), the left are under the impression that a personality they don't like is criteria for impeachment. If we take all these high profile cases that involve Michael Brown, George Zimmerman, et al. and how wrong the left are virtually every time, it's clear they don't even have even a laymans understanding of law. It's funny because their lack of understanding derives from their own overly emotional tirades. 

But it feels like Watergate!  I actually saw a news story referencing back to Watergate and what potential information the investigators had.  What is the point of such a stupid story other than to keep the current narrative front and center and try to create a parallel to today.  Most of the WG main actors are dead, and I imagine the statute of limitations has long since expired on whatever crimes might have been hidden unless of course it was murder.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4616602/President-Nixon-operatives-planned-violence-protesters.html

 

Edited June 19, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Dashinka 24,871]

8 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

I don't expect him to be impeached at all. My own opinion is that there is a real dirty game of politics going on and I don't believe it's good for the USA at all.

 

It's sad to see the flag being burned and so much conflict at colleges, this will have an effect further down the road with possibly less foreign students applying to those colleges. From an outsider looking in the election happens and a president is elected, sure one side is not happy but Americans always seemed to get behind the flag and their president. This pride in your flag is what immigrants come for, but if Americans care less for it why should the immigrants. 

 

My question was coming from the point of a dirty game of politics being played trying to get rid of a president, now the grass is not always greener on the other side. Assuming the driving force is the Democratic Party would getting Trump impeached not just create a unified republican party. So is a unified republican party with Ryan as president not worse for the democrats. Maybe a disfunctional White House with Trump is a better option for the Democratic party in the long term. 

 

I am not asking what's best for the American people but politically what suits either party best. 

Since impeachment is in fact a political activity and not a criminal activity who knows what will happen.  Personally, I never thought I would see the current federal politicians so at each others throats.  I think it may be a combination of the fact that they hate Trump's personality (he doesn't fit the bill of a well refined elitist that should be leading), and the fact that Hillary lost to him.  We have to remember that Hillary was supposed to be President in 2009, but since Obama won, her supporters could not vent their frustrations at that time.  Fast-forward 8 years and after a rigged primary she loses to of all people Trump.  Now her supporters along with their press allies like Jeff Bezos's WaPo are more than happy to keep a narrative alive.  Is Trump perfect, certainly not, but I doubt any president of the last 100-150 years could have been considered perfect.  Heck, Lincoln did some pretty wild things (suspension of Habeas Corpus) and FDR interred US citizens.  Who knows about JFK, but can you imagine if Trump had named Don Jr., Eric, or Jared K. as AG? 

[Dashinka 24,871]

7 hours ago, ccneat said:

The larger factors will be:

1 what the Republican Congress gets done in the next 15 month's, yup we are coming up on midterms 

2 the duration and outcome of the Russia investigation.  This could take two years If political impeachment is in the works.

The best outcome for the Republican brand would be Trump resigns this summer, A whole host of legislation gets done , and that legislation does not tork off the public.  

 

All of that would need to happen and I believe none of this will happen. The democrats are not in much better shape, but they can celebrate that they are not Republicans

Make no mistake, the Dems will keep the whole Russian narrative alive as long as possible regardless of any findings and do anything to maintain a cloud over Trump.  Why doesn't Susan Rice come and testify at the Senate, it seems like she could shed some light on the whole collusion story since it appears she and others in the previous Administration were investigating it.   Their goal is probably 2020, but definitely up to 2018.  The Republicans in Congress do not need Trump to actually craft legislation, if they actually do something right like tax reform, etc., Trump will most likely sign it.

 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

9 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Nope.  It doesn't matter who the GOP president is, the Left have found their new strategy to create an investigation which tries to find a crime to fit a narrative they have made up.

Do you mean the Left Leaning Deputy AG, Leftist Republican Senate and House chairing 4 investigations, the Leftist Bob Mueller and the Very Ultra Liberal and partisan National Security Community?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, ccneat said:

Do you mean the Left Leaning Deputy AG, Leftist Republican Senate and House chairing 4 investigations, the Leftist Bob Mueller and the Very Ultra Liberal and partisan National Security Community?

you forgot regressive..sprinkle that in somewhere.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, smilesammich said:

you forgot regressive..sprinkle that in somewhere.

I dont want to trigger anyone by repeating things in here.  I understand how frustrating that can be.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, ccneat said:

I dont want to trigger anyone by repeating things in here.  I understand how frustrating that can be.

the regressive left survives on repetition and heel clicks. rinse repeat x3

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

9 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Make no mistake, the Dems will keep the whole Russian narrative alive as long as possible regardless of any findings and do anything to maintain a cloud over Trump.  Why doesn't Susan Rice come and testify at the Senate, it seems like she could shed some light on the whole collusion story since it appears she and others in the previous Administration were investigating it.   Their goal is probably 2020, but definitely up to 2018.  The Republicans in Congress do not need Trump to actually craft legislation, if they actually do something right like tax reform, etc., Trump will most likely sign it.

 

I think it was made clear last week that the house and the senate would restrict their focus to the actions taken by Russians or others to interfere with our election processes and systems with a view of preventing re-occurrence.  In all truth the Comey and Sessions last testimony should not have occurred .  You have expressed the belief that the Russians did not hack or interfere with our elections so no doubt this would seem like a waste of time. 

 

Collusion, Coverup, Perjury and Obstruction of Justice will be the job of the Independent Prosecutor. If folks are now saying that Muller has a political agenda and no integrity ( as Newt is spouting) then that his a huge flip from a few weeks before ( as Newt was spouting then) then we have entered into a new circle of cognitive dissonance. 

Edited June 19, 2017 by ccneat