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So then they are going to murder someone for hearsay?

Why then are they also not stepping up to put to death:

"Allah's Apostle said, The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder [this is a gimmie], a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse [extra-marital afair, but i notice rape not being mentioned on this, should be IMO]and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims.[why? what is the fear that they have associated here?]"

bolding are my thoughts.

Anyway, so the qu'ran is holy text. I can accept that. But what are the hadiths then? an accumulation of "these too"? kinda like the Catholic macabee's?

My understanding is this: the Quran is god himself. The Hadiths are the words and deeds of gods prophet. All Muslims are required to try to live their lives as the prophet did and the Hadiths serve as their guide for doing that.

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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This is a story from 5 years ago, right? lol

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So then they are going to murder someone for hearsay?

Why then are they also not stepping up to put to death:

"Allah's Apostle said, The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder [this is a gimmie], a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse [extra-marital afair, but i notice rape not being mentioned on this, should be IMO]and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims.[why? what is the fear that they have associated here?]"

bolding are my thoughts.

Anyway, so the qu'ran is holy text. I can accept that. But what are the hadiths then? an accumulation of "these too"? kinda like the Catholic macabee's?

My understanding is this: the Quran is god himself. The Hadiths are the words and deeds of gods prophet. All Muslims are required to try to live their lives as the prophet did and the Hadiths serve as their guide for doing that.

Gotcha. Ok, a little different, but sure. Hey, if that's what they want to believe.

This is a story from 5 years ago, right? lol
South Asia News

Death awaits Afghan Christian convert

Mar 20, 2006, 11:47 GMT

From the web site in article... so um. No.

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d@mn! my sarcasm key is broken!

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Once again, some people are confusing certain people's corrupt beliefs/actions with the religion as a WHOLE to be corrupt!

So pathetic, in my opinion

I can understand where these comments or beliefs of certain people on here begin. Certainly it is with biased media. The media, God Bless it, only seems to portray the negative. The positive is unimportant because we seem to enjoy more reading about nastyness around the world, or more specifically in the Middle East. The proof to that is that everyday i see a different topic against Islam. No need for names, but you people better go learn more about YOUR religion rather than attempting to educate the rest of the world.

Do you have an ounce of sympathy for the guy being killed because he wants to be a Christian?

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Do you have an ounce of sympathy for the guy being killed because he wants to be a Christian?

Sorry, if the guy is actually put to death or this, but it is his decision. If I know I'm going to be put to death for it, I don't think I'm going to go around saying Praise the Lord. No one knows who he's praying to when he's on the rug, so keep a low profile.

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Do you have an ounce of sympathy for the guy being killed because he wants to be a Christian?

Sorry, if the guy is actually put to death or this, but it is his decision. If I know I'm going to be put to death for it, I don't think I'm going to go around saying Praise the Lord. No one knows who he's praying to when he's on the rug, so keep a low profile.

Good point. Use a little discretion in a hostile environment.

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Once again, some people are confusing certain people's corrupt beliefs/actions with the religion as a WHOLE to be corrupt!

So pathetic, in my opinion

I can understand where these comments or beliefs of certain people on here begin. Certainly it is with biased media. The media, God Bless it, only seems to portray the negative. The positive is unimportant because we seem to enjoy more reading about nastyness around the world, or more specifically in the Middle East. The proof to that is that everyday i see a different topic against Islam. No need for names, but you people better go learn more about YOUR religion rather than attempting to educate the rest of the world.

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Ditto to all that! :yes:

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Once again, some people are confusing certain people's corrupt beliefs/actions with the religion as a WHOLE to be corrupt!

So pathetic, in my opinion

I can understand where these comments or beliefs of certain people on here begin. Certainly it is with biased media. The media, God Bless it, only seems to portray the negative. The positive is unimportant because we seem to enjoy more reading about nastyness around the world, or more specifically in the Middle East. The proof to that is that everyday i see a different topic against Islam. No need for names, but you people better go learn more about YOUR religion rather than attempting to educate the rest of the world.

Yup. Unfortunately some people seem to be more than happy with basing their opinions about muslims on a negative stereotype, which I guess is what happens when you have an insular world view.

For some reason it has become socially acceptable to stereotype muslims, more than any other ethnic / cultural group. Ever noticed when anyone asks the question "What do you actually know about Islam?" they invariably reply "I know all I need to".

Might as well say the majority of bad drivers are predominantly asian women, amounts to much the same thing at the end of the day. :whistle:

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Yup. Unfortunately some people seem to be more than happy with basing their opinions about muslims on a negative stereotype, which I guess is what happens when you have an insular world view.

For some reason it has become socially acceptable to stereotype muslims, more than any other ethnic / cultural group. Ever noticed when anyone asks the question "What do you actually know about Islam?" they invariably reply "I know all I need to".

Might as well say the majority of bad drivers are predominantly asian women, amounts to much the same thing at the end of the day. :whistle:

However, with most stereotypes there is a grain of truth and muslims haven't been doing a lot of positive things to help their cause lately. When all hell breaks loose over a cartoon what else are people to think.

You probably won't see any Asian women Indy 500 or NASCAR drivers either. LOL

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Yup. Unfortunately some people seem to be more than happy with basing their opinions about muslims on a negative stereotype, which I guess is what happens when you have an insular world view.

For some reason it has become socially acceptable to stereotype muslims, more than any other ethnic / cultural group. Ever noticed when anyone asks the question "What do you actually know about Islam?" they invariably reply "I know all I need to".

Might as well say the majority of bad drivers are predominantly asian women, amounts to much the same thing at the end of the day. :whistle:

However, with most stereotypes there is a grain of truth and muslims haven't been doing a lot of positive things to help their cause lately. When all hell breaks loose over a cartoon what else are people to think.

You probably won't see any Asian women Indy 500 or NASCAR drivers either. LOL

True - but relying on stereotypes implies a degree of close-mindedness. People who like to point the finger at other peoples' and cultures don't understand that they are perpetuating intolerance.

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Sorry, if the guy is actually put to death or this, but it is his decision.

Alright, I must have missed the news flash. Someone please remind me again what exactly our huge accomplishment in Afghanistan was? I know we first went there to grab Osama. Well, that didn't happen. So, what exactly did our men and women in uniform die for over there? So people can be sentenced to death for believing what they believe? What a worthy cause... :wacko:

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Alright, I must have missed the news flash. Someone please remind me again what exactly our huge accomplishment in Afghanistan was?

The Taliban was starting to make it harder for Heroin to get to Europe and prices threatened to rise beyond the average British Drug user's reasonable budget. This could not stand.

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