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Alex is to the right what Al Sharpton is to the left, yet no one howled when Sharpton was a constant vustor to the white house our Obama's other ex terrorist buddies 

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3 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Alex is to the right what Al Sharpton is to the left, yet no one howled when Sharpton was a constant vustor to the white house our Obama's other ex terrorist buddies 

False equillvilancy.. No way the Rev was as whack as alex Jones

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Which is really coward of him, because in order to please his alt-right constituency he keeps mentioning radical muslim terrorists, but he doesn't have the guts to tell the country he's signing a ban on Muslims. Everything with the so-called president and his family is shady and quite not what it seems. Makes me thing of a show called "Leverage."  We're all their marks!

Muslim ban? Why is it that only a small percentage of the world's Muslims are affected by it and it is not exclusive to Muslims. Calling it a Muslim ban whether you agree or disagree with it is a mis characterization.

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18 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Muslim ban? Why is it that only a small percentage of the world's Muslims are affected by it and it is not exclusive to Muslims. Calling it a Muslim ban whether you agree or disagree with it is a mis characterization.

 

 

What do you mean a small percentage of the world's Muslims are affected? We're talking about 7 countries! And why ban so many people?

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6 hours ago, CaliCat said:

sign an EO that is unconstitutional

The Supreme Court might finally verify that a president has the plenary power to establish travel restrictions.

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8 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

The Supreme Court might finally verify that a president has the plenary power to establish travel restrictions.

 

 

And until then, the ruling of the other branches of our government remain. I can't see how they can unspin the Muslim ban.That bell was rung by Trump himself.

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Not all residents of the affected countries are Muslims, so how can it be construed as a "Muslim ban"?  Just wondering.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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17 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

The Supreme Court might finally verify that a president has the plenary power to establish travel restrictions.

Yeah still waiting for the Whitehouse to appeal to scotus

 

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50 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Muslim ban? Why is it that only a small percentage of the world's Muslims are affected by it and it is not exclusive to Muslims. Calling it a Muslim ban whether you agree or disagree with it is a mis characterization.

Just using Trumps own words.

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6 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Muslim ban? Why is it that only a small percentage of the world's Muslims are affected by it and it is not exclusive to Muslims. Calling it a Muslim ban whether you agree or disagree with it is a mis characterization.

But that is what he said!  :bonk:

5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Not all residents of the affected countries are Muslims, so how can it be construed as a "Muslim ban"?  Just wondering.

Leftist logic!  :devil:

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5 hours ago, ccneat said:

Just using Trumps own words.

And President Obama said you could keep your doctor. 

 

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

And President Obama said you could keep your doctor. 

 

:bonk:

I still have my Doctor....and about 25 million folks who had no insurance have so win win.

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6 minutes ago, ccneat said:

I still have my Doctor....and about 25 million folks who had no insurance have so win win.

25 million also have your Dr.  The wait times must be awful. 

 

Obamacare is the Cat's Meow and there is no reason to change anything.  Please tell Congress as we wouldn't want to GOP and Trump to screw up something to great!

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

But that is what he said!  :bonk:

Leftist logic!  :devil:

Where have you been my friend?

After the San Bernadino shooting in December 2015, Trump explicitly called for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.”  That policy statement was still on the Trump campaign site last month for the 4 the district judges to find and cite.  They finally took it down after the judges cited it in his loss.

 

And the court cited Guilianis fox interview

Quote: "So when he first announced it, he said 'Muslim ban.' He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.'"

And then

Quote: "Fundamentally, you're still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country, but you're going to be responsive to a lot of very technical issues what were brought up by the court."

Source: White House policy advisor Stephen Miller in an interview with Fox News, Feb. 21, 2017

 

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