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Hi everyone,t

 

Just got my letter in the mail from USCIS indicating that they needed more evidence of our marriage. I thought all the diligence I put in while preparing the initial packet would have paid off, but alas it didn't. Here's what we submitted, in USCIS's words:

 

1) two affidavits that don't provide original, detailed, specific documentation about the marital relationship (my sister in-law and her husband submitted two identical affidavits on our behalf using a template I found on here - can they resubmit or should we seek out new people?)

2) Chase bank deposit account balance summary that does not indicate joint transaction activity nor the combination of financial resources (we set up a joint account but do not use it frequently as we manage our own finances, even after marriage - same thing goes for credit cards, etc.)

3) 2014 and 2015 tax documents (we have filed married jointly every year since getting married)

4) redacted documents that appear to be an online account printout of benefit elections (I had provided copies of my insurance benefits where I had listed my wife as the beneficiary)

5) copy of emailed travel itineraries

6) partial copy of lease agreement (for a short period of time, we lived together in a different city and therefore had this lease in our names. we currently live with family, so we don't have a lease with our names)

7) photos

 

So my question is ... what now? What else can I provide? I looked at the list of suggested documents that USCIS asks for, and we don't have many of those. The biggest thing we have going, I believe, is that we are expecting our first child together in September. What else can we really provide?

 

Thanks!

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4 minutes ago, Pmenon said:

Hi everyone,t

 

Just got my letter in the mail from USCIS indicating that they needed more evidence of our marriage. I thought all the diligence I put in while preparing the initial packet would have paid off, but alas it didn't. Here's what we submitted, in USCIS's words:

 

1) two affidavits that don't provide original, detailed, specific documentation about the marital relationship (my sister in-law and her husband submitted two identical affidavits on our behalf using a template I found on here - can they resubmit or should we seek out new people?)

2) Chase bank deposit account balance summary that does not indicate joint transaction activity nor the combination of financial resources (we set up a joint account but do not use it frequently as we manage our own finances, even after marriage - same thing goes for credit cards, etc.)

3) 2014 and 2015 tax documents (we have filed married jointly every year since getting married)

4) redacted documents that appear to be an online account printout of benefit elections (I had provided copies of my insurance benefits where I had listed my wife as the beneficiary)

5) copy of emailed travel itineraries

6) partial copy of lease agreement (for a short period of time, we lived together in a different city and therefore had this lease in our names. we currently live with family, so we don't have a lease with our names)

7) photos

 

So my question is ... what now? What else can I provide? I looked at the list of suggested documents that USCIS asks for, and we don't have many of those. The biggest thing we have going, I believe, is that we are expecting our first child together in September. What else can we really provide?

 

Thanks!

 

Your and your spouse's State ID or Drivers License showing the same address?

Health, dental, vision insurance?

Life insurance?

Power of attorney or will?

K1

05/23/2014: I-129F sent

08/05/2014: I-129F approved

11/25/2014: Interview - approved

11/27/2014: K1 visa received

 

AOS 

03/03/2015: I-485, I-765 sent

05/13/2015: I-765 approved

05/20/2015: EAD received

06/14/2015: NPIW received (dated 06/11)

09/24/2015: I-485 approved

10/01/2015: Conditional Green Card received

 

ROC 

07/24/2017: I-751 package sent

07/26/2017: NOA1 date

08/01/2017: NOA1 hardcopy (extension letter) received

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3 minutes ago, Diamond507 said:

 

Your and your spouse's State ID or Drivers License showing the same address?

Health, dental, vision insurance?

Life insurance?

Power of attorney or will?

Thanks for the reply!

 

1) We do have State ID showing the same address

2) I'm currently on my wife's insurance and she has me listed as being on the policy. Does this need to go back to the start of our marriage? It has changed a few times with employers over the last 3 years

3) No power of attorney or will - we can set one up, but I think it will come off as too suspicious to USCIS if we do it now, correct?

3 minutes ago, missileman said:

In place of #5- Do you have actual boarding passes, receipts showing dates of actual time together?  Itineraries can change, actual receipts are more reliable.

Hi there! Yes, for some of the trips we definitely do have boarding passes. I could also potentially go back and see old boarding passes on my airline apps if that helps...

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Are you insured to drive the save vehicle? Are you both on the finance agreement for a car or any other large purchase? A store credit card? 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

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1 minute ago, JFH said:

Are you insured to drive the save vehicle? Are you both on the finance agreement for a car or any other large purchase? A store credit card? 

Unfortunately we don't have a vehicle, and even if we did she doesn't drive. Outside of that, we aren't currently financing any large purchases ...

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It is probably too late now but for the benefit of readers who are yet to file I-751, many people take out a low limit store credit card from somewhere such as Target together and have it in both names. Or a low limit credit card together and use it just for gas just so that you can show some bills in both names. 

 

Do you have a lease agreement with the family member that you live with? 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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1 minute ago, JFH said:

It is probably too late now but for the benefit of readers who are yet to file I-751, many people take out a low limit store credit card from somewhere such as Target together and have it in both names. Or a low limit credit card together and use it just for gas just so that you can show some bills in both names. 

 

Do you have a lease agreement with the family member that you live with? 

We don't have a lease agreement unfortunately - we never thought of doing that as we thought it would be a short-term setup.

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I'm confused. Are you AOS while she is in the US? Or is she in Canada and are you doing an IR-1/CR-1 visa?

 

Some of the information you gave them seems sound. Maybe you have to make sure it looks official or stronger. For instance, the travel, it seems as if you sent a travel itinerary. Reinforce this with boarding passes, hotel bills, or credit card bills showing you purchase stuff together, or pictures. 

 

#4 maybe if this is an online printout that doesn't seem too official, try to get something more official. And if you changed jobs, try getting an older one, from around the time you got married and you first put her as beneficiary (if that makes sense). 

 

If you don't have a lease you can have the family write you a letter and saying you are staying with them (maybe you are saving money for a downpayment or something?). But if you have other bills sent to that address, like the joint account, or you insurance, you could add that to reinforce the fact that you are living there.

 

 

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Just now, Coco8 said:

I'm confused. Are you AOS while she is in the US? Or is she in Canada and are you doing an IR-1/CR-1 visa?

 

Some of the information you gave them seems sound. Maybe you have to make sure it looks official or stronger. For instance, the travel, it seems as if you sent a travel itinerary. Reinforce this with boarding passes, hotel bills, or credit card bills showing you purchase stuff together, or pictures. 

 

#4 maybe if this is an online printout that doesn't seem too official, try to get something more official. And if you changed jobs, try getting an older one, from around the time you got married and you first put her as beneficiary (if that makes sense). 

 

If you don't have a lease you can have the family write you a letter and saying you are staying with them (maybe you are saving money for a downpayment or something?). But if you have other bills sent to that address, like the joint account, or you insurance, you could add that to reinforce the fact that you are living there.

 

 

AOS in the US currently living with my wife, the USC, with her family in NYC. Sorry about that.

 

Re: #4, I will take a look. And yes, we were thinking of getting the family to supply a letter indicating the same. Gosh, this is frustrating.

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18 minutes ago, Pmenon said:

Thanks for the reply!

 

1) We do have State ID showing the same address

2) I'm currently on my wife's insurance and she has me listed as being on the policy. Does this need to go back to the start of our marriage? It has changed a few times with employers over the last 3 years

3) No power of attorney or will - we can set one up, but I think it will come off as too suspicious to USCIS if we do it now, correct?

That's great that you have the State IDs showing the same address. As for the health insurance, send what you have. Many couples don't have health insurance continously throughout the years. I would definitely send a POA or a will. It is great evidence regardless of when it was made.

 

How about a joint cell phone plan? That's good evidence too.

K1

05/23/2014: I-129F sent

08/05/2014: I-129F approved

11/25/2014: Interview - approved

11/27/2014: K1 visa received

 

AOS 

03/03/2015: I-485, I-765 sent

05/13/2015: I-765 approved

05/20/2015: EAD received

06/14/2015: NPIW received (dated 06/11)

09/24/2015: I-485 approved

10/01/2015: Conditional Green Card received

 

ROC 

07/24/2017: I-751 package sent

07/26/2017: NOA1 date

08/01/2017: NOA1 hardcopy (extension letter) received

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26 minutes ago, JFH said:

many people take out a low limit store credit card from somewhere such as Target together and have it in both names.

Great idea.  I'll remember that one....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Maybe a little bit off-topic, but: How long did it take to get the RFE after you submitted your I-751?

 

I ask this because I just submitted my I-751 and I want to know more or less when to expect an RFE if it happens.

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I wish that I had found this forum/web site before we had assembled and submitted our petition.  The cell phone plan (two-year plans most common) is a great idea!  And, I never thought of submitting our driver's licenses with the same address.  

 

I included a 401K beneficiary form.  Actually two, since my employer changed providers this year.  

When I initially changed my will to include my wife, my attorney included a statement in the will that my wife was pregnant with my child.  When I changed my will a second time to include my step-children, it cost each of us $500 for wills, trusts, and powers of attorney.  If you can afford do to this, I would go ahead and do this now.  

 

We included 40 photos of the family being together over the past two years. 

 

We included separate jeweler receipts for our engagement rings and wedding bands.  

 

When I initially submitted our Petition for Alien Relative [USCIS Form I-130], we submitted doctor's medical statements on my wife's pregnancy.  

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