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hi VJ community,

 

i'm so very confused right now.  my husband just entered last week (june 1st) using his spouse visa.  but on the bottom of the visa it says, "upon endorsement serves as temporary I-551 evidencing permanent residence for 1 year"

 

but i'm reading everywhere online that the removal of conditions is 90 days before the 2 year mark??  but how is that possible if he's only allowed one year??

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His actual  GC will reflect a 2 year expiration  date. ROC should be filed within 90 days prior to that expiration date.

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The immigration visa upon entry into the US, it is endorsed and becomes a temporary 1 year green card.  This is used temporarily until his plastic green card comes.

 

In a few weeks, your husband will get his 2 years plastic green card.  That's good for 2 years and requires him to file for ROC 90 days before it expires.  The $220 immigration fee is for this plastic card.

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1 minute ago, lunchboxthermos said:

oh okay.  i thought the conditional thing was because we've only been married less than 2 years? (to date, we've only been married ~1.5 years).

 

 

 

Your husband is getting a 2 years conditional green card because he was married less than 2 years when he entered the US. 

 

The immigration visa becoming a temporary 1 year green card applies to everyone who enters the US on an immigration visa.  The immigration visa becoming a temporary 1 year green card has nothing to do with the length of your marriage.

 

You are confusing two separate things.  

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**Moved from Adjustment of Status (Green Card) from Family Based Visas to IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures; OP's husband entered on a CR-1**

🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

Spoiler

Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

Spoiler

Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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ahhh, okay thanks so much for clearing that up!  

 

so does that mean that we MUST stay in the US for 2 full years (applying for the removal of conditions 90 days prior to the 2 years are up)?  i was intending to apply for the expedited 319(b) as i work for an international missionary organisation overseas.  (another co-worker of mine also applied for this as well, and their spouse was naturalised quickly so they could return overseas, so this method was suggested to me).  now i'm so confused as to when we could apply for that.

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Don't know anything about 319(b).  Talk to your co-worker or talk to an immigration lawyer.

 

If he wants to keep his green card, then he must make the US his home.  There is no MUST.  He can leave the US.  If he moves out the US, then he may be deemed to have abandoned his green card.  This is the general rule.

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6 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

Don't know anything about 319(b).  Talk to your co-worker or talk to an immigration lawyer.

 

If he wants to keep his green card, then he must make the US his home.  There is no MUST.  He can leave the US.  If he moves out the US, then he may be deemed to have abandoned his green card.  This is the general rule.

319(b) allows my husband to be naturalised sooner, because i am assigned to work overseas.  we do intend to make the US our home, but my job requires me to work overseas a couple years at a time.  right now it's just a matter of figuring out when i'm supposed to apply for things as it's complicated.

 

but thank you so much for clearing up the former!  really helps a lot. :)

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11 minutes ago, lunchboxthermos said:

ahhh, okay thanks so much for clearing that up!  

 

so does that mean that we MUST stay in the US for 2 full years (applying for the removal of conditions 90 days prior to the 2 years are up)?  i was intending to apply for the expedited 319(b) as i work for an international missionary organisation overseas.  (another co-worker of mine also applied for this as well, and their spouse was naturalised quickly so they could return overseas, so this method was suggested to me).  now i'm so confused as to when we could apply for that.

Be very careful about the 90 day mention.  The filing should be made NO MORE THAN 90 days before expiration of his 2 year green card.  If you file 91 days before you will get the entire packet back. 

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6 minutes ago, David & Zoila said:

Be very careful about the 90 day mention.  The filing should be made NO MORE THAN 90 days before expiration of his 2 year green card.  If you file 91 days before you will get the entire packet back. 

thanks for the reminder, David & Zoila!  haha i have seen many many warnings about this, so i will definitely pay attention to it.  

 

(just a little confused about trying to apply for expedited naturalisation before the 2 years are up - if that is even a possibility!)

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4 minutes ago, lunchboxthermos said:

thanks for the reminder, David & Zoila!  haha i have seen many many warnings about this, so i will definitely pay attention to it.  

 

(just a little confused about trying to apply for expedited naturalisation before the 2 years are up - if that is even a possibility!)

I found an old thread about it, this might help but since it's two years old I would still double check it:

 

 

🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

Spoiler

Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

Spoiler

Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

🎆 Members new and old: don't forget to fill in your VJ timeline! 🎇 https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/

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