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US Embassy asking my ex husband to go there and meet them in person to answer some questions about me. My ex is an expat in Asia, always travelling all over Asia for work, at the same time he has to manage his factory. He is there for a reason, wasting one day for embassy would involve financial loss to company and this is not something he can sacrifice. However he is not refusing to answer their questions, he proposed embassy to answer their questions by phone, video call, skype or even meet them at his office. He's telling me that legally he is not obliged to go there, but still wouldn't mind to clarify whatever issues and normally phone call at his office would be enough, once he is back from business travel.

But form what they reply, they sound like he does not want to cooperate. They write like: please don't ignore us, please return calls, emails (but that's a lie, he already answered their emails!!). They sound like if he does not go, this would complicate my case a lot. Looks like they are simply trying to ruin my case for some unknown to me reason. Besides I've never heard that any third party, especially ex, with whom I was legally divorced years before I met my fiance, is required to participate in my K1 visa process. This is my 3rd month of AP. I feel like I have to share this experience.

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03/18/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX

03/30/16....Delivered at Lewisville, TX

04/04/16....$340 check cashed

04/06/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail. Case sent to CSC

04/08/16....NOA1 hardcopy received by post

04/11/16....called to USCIS inform about Name typo

04/27/16....Name typo updated

06/29/16....Got RFE

07/15/16....RFE was received by USCIS

08/01/16....NOA2 approved

WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS..CONTACTING USCIS SUPERVISER..CONTACTING SENATOR..

10/03/16....Case sent to NVC (THEY LOST OUR CASE AND STOLE 2.5 MONTHS OF OUR HAPPINESS. Only senator's involvement helped to sort it out.)

10/13/16....NVC assigned case number (after waiting more than average)

WAIT/CALLING TO NVC.. WAIT/CALLING TO NVC...WAIT/CALLING TO NVC...LOSING MY MIND AGAIN..

11/16/16....NVC status changed to IN TRANSIT. Yay!

11/20/16....US Embassy received file but never contacted me

11/26/16....packet 3 received by consulate (packet 3 instructions was never sent by embassy, I sent packet 3 regardless)

11/28/16....interview scheduled on 12/22/2016

12/22/16....CO refused to consider self-earned income and refused co-sponsor. Refused to take in consideration my own assets and property income and well established freelance business. Asked to show $100K++ on bank account while he knew that we have maybe only $70K cash. 

03/22/17....After several fights was interviewed in Paris. They kept my passport. Was told Administrative Processing won't take more than 2-3 weeks.

 

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I've never heard of a consulate asking an ex husband to answers questions in person. If you really did divorce him years ago(I don't doubt you did), why on Earth would they need to question him in regard to your K-1 visa? :blink:


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This case sounds very strange. I also have never heard of the embassy needing to speak with someone not directly involved in the K1 petition. I don't understand what information that he could give them that you yourself could not. It seems as if there is some missing information here...

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Has to be some other information involved that isn't being told or they wouldn't need to hear from an ex-husband. 

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It's not usual at all. You are either misinformed, you don't know the whole story or you have not told us the whole story. Under normal circumstances, they would not contact an ex spouse. Is there a child involved? Did you claim abuse in your divorce?

 
 

 

 

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I agree with the others, something is very off here. Is there more to the story that you are afraid to go into detail about? It's very, very strange and makes no sense at all.

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Theres nothing to hide. Absolutely nothing.

 

On my interview I was asked a question that I think has nothing to do with determining my eligibility for visa. They googled article about my ex and his court libel case against the bully who harassed us years ago before I even met my fiancé.

 

Years ago me and my ex we used to know one person who appeared to be normal, but then turned to be a psycho sociopath and tried to ruin our reputation online, harassed our colleagues, friends and even my kid, called at work. This person had other victims like us in the past, later on we found that out. In exchange to stop ruining reputation, this person tried to extort money from my ex. What my ex did is that he bring this case to the police and court. After arrest, few days in prison and facing trial, this person stopped harassing us. This story started before our divorce and stopped after our divorce (well still awaiting for court hearing). My ex name was cleared at work, not even single allegation about us was true. The consular officer at interview agreed that this person was insane. The officer told me that he knows that this bully was once deported from some country (he did not tell me more details)

 

But again, I don’t understand what it has to do with my eligibility. Nothing, even this story points that we did anything wrong. We legally dealt with harasser, period. Also, I never visited Middle East, never been involved in any incident or any type of suspicious activity, never overstayed visa in any country I visited, never break any law, also my profession don’t belong to Technology Alert List. Every fact that I told them at interview is easy to verify.

 

Me, my ex and my fiancé have crystal clear records and biography.

 

I have only one kid, the father of kid is not in the picture at all, we did not see him for 15 years

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03/18/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX

03/30/16....Delivered at Lewisville, TX

04/04/16....$340 check cashed

04/06/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail. Case sent to CSC

04/08/16....NOA1 hardcopy received by post

04/11/16....called to USCIS inform about Name typo

04/27/16....Name typo updated

06/29/16....Got RFE

07/15/16....RFE was received by USCIS

08/01/16....NOA2 approved

WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS..CONTACTING USCIS SUPERVISER..CONTACTING SENATOR..

10/03/16....Case sent to NVC (THEY LOST OUR CASE AND STOLE 2.5 MONTHS OF OUR HAPPINESS. Only senator's involvement helped to sort it out.)

10/13/16....NVC assigned case number (after waiting more than average)

WAIT/CALLING TO NVC.. WAIT/CALLING TO NVC...WAIT/CALLING TO NVC...LOSING MY MIND AGAIN..

11/16/16....NVC status changed to IN TRANSIT. Yay!

11/20/16....US Embassy received file but never contacted me

11/26/16....packet 3 received by consulate (packet 3 instructions was never sent by embassy, I sent packet 3 regardless)

11/28/16....interview scheduled on 12/22/2016

12/22/16....CO refused to consider self-earned income and refused co-sponsor. Refused to take in consideration my own assets and property income and well established freelance business. Asked to show $100K++ on bank account while he knew that we have maybe only $70K cash. 

03/22/17....After several fights was interviewed in Paris. They kept my passport. Was told Administrative Processing won't take more than 2-3 weeks.

 

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I do find it unreasonable for them to request to be there rather than asking anything through a phone call. However, often they are seeing

things behind the curtain that we can only scratch our heads at and wonder why they want this or that. Reasons why they want what they want

are non transparent and that is typically for an embassy. I hate to say it but if you want the visa then have him go there and offer to help him out

financially for the loss he would incur of missing a day at work. It may only take a few minutes.
Let us know how this evolves, interested in the reason and questions they want to ask.

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NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

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It's highly unusual, but I wouldn't call it "abusive". Past spouses do come up in interviews fairly often, albeit their statements or presence being requested is not usual. As for unreasonable or not, I doubt they want to see him in person just for the heck of it. It's not in their interest to just call up people and request their presence unless they have a reason. I have no idea what their reason might be, but there's something they need to verify with him.

 

He's right that he has no obligation to comply with their request. However, the CO has the discretion to make a decision without the facts that they seem to want from him, and that's not a situation you want to be in. As unusual as it sounds, if he's able to go then that's probably the simplest solution. Otherwise, you may want to seek guidance from an immigration attorney.

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ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Definitely an odd situation. I've never heard of anything like that before either! Good luck! 

2 minutes ago, qtime said:

Could be he is wanted and it is a ploy to get him. Just thinking outside the box 

 

Hey that's pretty creative! Anything is possible! 

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There's no way to know who's on the phone. I can see them wanting to meet in person to make sure it's him. 

 

I understand it's unusual and very inconvenient, however I would try to convince your ex to go.  If they feel it's the only thing that will allow them to issue the visa, I would try really hard to comply add get  a nice thank your gift for the ex.

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21 hours ago, ninz said:

US Embassy asking my ex husband to go there and meet them in person to answer some questions about me. My ex is an expat in Asia, always travelling all over Asia for work, at the same time he has to manage his factory. He is there for a reason, wasting one day for embassy would involve financial loss to company and this is not something he can sacrifice. However he is not refusing to answer their questions, he proposed embassy to answer their questions by phone, video call, skype or even meet them at his office. He's telling me that legally he is not obliged to go there, but still wouldn't mind to clarify whatever issues and normally phone call at his office would be enough, once he is back from business travel.

But form what they reply, they sound like he does not want to cooperate. They write like: please don't ignore us, please return calls, emails (but that's a lie, he already answered their emails!!). They sound like if he does not go, this would complicate my case a lot. Looks like they are simply trying to ruin my case for some unknown to me reason. Besides I've never heard that any third party, especially ex, with whom I was legally divorced years before I met my fiance, is required to participate in my K1 visa process. This is my 3rd month of AP. I feel like I have to share this experience.

Odd but is there any information either you or he is not telling USCIS or us on here?

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1 minute ago, NYCruiser said:

Odd but is there any information either you or he is not telling USCIS or us on here?

please read my second comment, there's nothing to hide

48 minutes ago, qtime said:

Could be he is wanted and it is a ploy to get him. Just thinking outside the box 

 

that is impossible, my ex is the most honest and decent person, if they want him, they can ask police help

14 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

There's no way to know who's on the phone. I can see them wanting to meet in person to make sure it's him. 

he proposed to meet them at his office

03/18/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX

03/30/16....Delivered at Lewisville, TX

04/04/16....$340 check cashed

04/06/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail. Case sent to CSC

04/08/16....NOA1 hardcopy received by post

04/11/16....called to USCIS inform about Name typo

04/27/16....Name typo updated

06/29/16....Got RFE

07/15/16....RFE was received by USCIS

08/01/16....NOA2 approved

WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS.. WAIT/CALLING TO USCIS..CONTACTING USCIS SUPERVISER..CONTACTING SENATOR..

10/03/16....Case sent to NVC (THEY LOST OUR CASE AND STOLE 2.5 MONTHS OF OUR HAPPINESS. Only senator's involvement helped to sort it out.)

10/13/16....NVC assigned case number (after waiting more than average)

WAIT/CALLING TO NVC.. WAIT/CALLING TO NVC...WAIT/CALLING TO NVC...LOSING MY MIND AGAIN..

11/16/16....NVC status changed to IN TRANSIT. Yay!

11/20/16....US Embassy received file but never contacted me

11/26/16....packet 3 received by consulate (packet 3 instructions was never sent by embassy, I sent packet 3 regardless)

11/28/16....interview scheduled on 12/22/2016

12/22/16....CO refused to consider self-earned income and refused co-sponsor. Refused to take in consideration my own assets and property income and well established freelance business. Asked to show $100K++ on bank account while he knew that we have maybe only $70K cash. 

03/22/17....After several fights was interviewed in Paris. They kept my passport. Was told Administrative Processing won't take more than 2-3 weeks.

 

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