UK Votes 2017 Thread

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On Thursday, June 8, after a 50 day campaign that was disrupted by two terror attacks, Britons will go to the polls to elect the next government and prime minister—current Tory Prime Minister Theresa May or Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.

Polls close at 5 pm EST (10 pm London time) with the first results expected to come an hour later. Throughout the evening we’ll have the latest results streamed live onto this interactive election map.

 

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/worldpolitics/u-k-election-2017-live-results-map/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2017

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/08/general-election-2017-polls-latest-tracker-odds/

 

Top Candidates/Parties:

Theresa May - Conservatives

Jeremy Corbyn - Labour

Nicola Sturgeon - Scottish National Party (SNP)

Tim Farron - Liberal Democrats

Paul Nuttall - UK Independence Party (UKIP)

Leanne Wood - Plaid Cymru

Caroline Lucas/Johathan Bartley - Green Party of England/Wales

 

There are countless candidates all for other parties, like Christian People's Alliance, Yorkshire Party, Alliance Party of Northern Ireland, Social Democratic & Labour Party, Sinn Fein, Democratic Unionist Party, Ulster Unionist Party, Official Monster Raving Loony Party (?!), British National Party, Pirate Party, etc.

 

There are 187 Independent candidates not affiliated with a party, which ranks their numbers between UKIP and SNP.

 

Others can post polls, I won't for obvious reasons cited in the Telegraph article:

What are the betting odds for the UK general election?

Political pollsters have taken a beating recently after failing to predict a Conservative majority in 2015, a Leave vote last summerand a Donald Trump victory in November.

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I think the MRLP is going to take it by storm this election. This is their time!

[yuna628 9,646]

Husband already voted long ago, but based on how late they usually send the ballot I hope it counts.

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10 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Husband already voted long ago, but based on how late they usually send the ballot I hope it counts.

My wife filled out the absentee voting thing to have her sister vote for her, but then she realized that the person has to be voting in the exact same county or area. Her sister lives in London now and my wife would have been voting in Salisbury so now her vote won't count

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Polls closing in a few minutes. News reports say expect results to start arriving roughly in an hour or so.

[yuna628 9,646]

There were a great many people who were refused a vote today under mysterious circumstance. But... it seems it'll be a  Hung Parliament on exit polling. Too delicious for words if true.

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9 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

There were a great many people who were refused a vote today under mysterious circumstance. But... it seems it'll be a  Hung Parliament on exit polling. Too delicious for words if true.

Does that mean more liberal parties will form a coalition? Still trying to understand the parliamentary system, since they have it in Canada too.

[yuna628 9,646]

15 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Does that mean more liberal parties will form a coalition? Still trying to understand the parliamentary system, since they have it in Canada too.

In a complex way it means that if this holds true, May will be forced to resign in disgrace, they will be unlikely to form a coalition anyway (both parties said they would not) and who she would even need to form a coalition with are unlikely to bite. There won't be more liberal parties per say, but may be individual parties that share common goals or goals that are contrary to May. She needs a consensus on Brexit and that absolutely won't happen if it's hung and at a stalemate. You're looking at the potential for another referendum and revote all over again. Hearing Labour may have picked up a few seats and Conservs made gains in Scotland, while SNP might be down. It's very close to call in many seats. Good analysis here. http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2017/06/08/election-night-2017-as-it-happens

 

Exit polling have been wrong before, but it is nowhere even close to the papers this week declaring Conservs at so high a majority as they had been. It's almost like they were trying to lie to the public not to bother coming out. £ is dropping hard from all the uncertain future. The NI vote though is going to be the really interesting one. UKIP seems to be relegated into the dust.

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1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

In a complex way it means that if this holds true, May will be forced to resign in disgrace, they will be unlikely to form a coalition anyway (both parties said they would not) and who she would even need to form a coalition with are unlikely to bite. There won't be more liberal parties per say, but may be individual parties that share common goals or goals that are contrary to May. She needs a consensus on Brexit and that absolutely won't happen if it's hung and at a stalemate. You're looking at the potential for another referendum and revote all over again. Hearing Labour may have picked up a few seats and Conservs made gains in Scotland, while SNP might be down. It's very close to call in many seats. Good analysis here. http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2017/06/08/election-night-2017-as-it-happens

 

Exit polling have been wrong before, but it is nowhere even close to the papers this week declaring Conservs at so high a majority as they had been. It's almost like they were trying to lie to the public not to bother coming out. £ is dropping hard from all the uncertain future. The NI vote though is going to be the really interesting one. UKIP seems to be relegated into the dust.

I was wondering about that - Brexit.  Since they have already submitted Article 50 to the EU, can they simply pull it back?  I am not that knowledgeable on the EU rules, would they have to complete Brexit then re-apply?

 

Also, for IAMX, here is a guide for those like us.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40049892

Edited June 8, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[yuna628 9,646]

5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I was wondering about that - Brexit.  Since they have already submitted Article 50 to the EU, can they simply pull it back?  I am not that knowledgeable on the EU rules, would they have to complete Brexit then re-apply?

 

Also, for IAMX, here is a guide for those like us.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40049892

There's a couple of really good UK constitutional lawyer blogs I follow that have been weighing the various potentials for a while. Little busy at the moment but I'll leave the links when I find them. It was a pretty long read though. The way I understood it, they could simply agree to let it elapse and continue as normal or they could continue on with Brexit but negotiate in a way they may prove less harsh and of benefit to everyone surprisingly. A lot like Norway which is not what May was going for at all.  It all depends on how they want to play the game.. You can expect the whole thing (either Cons loss outright or a Hung Parliament) will send the £ into a terrible state because of uncertain nature of what will come.

 

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2 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

There's a couple of really good UK constitutional lawyer blogs I follow that have been weighing the various potentials for a while. Little busy at the moment but I'll leave the links when I find them. It was a pretty long read though. The way I understood it, they could simply agree to let it elapse and continue as normal or they could continue on with Brexit but negotiate in a way they may prove less harsh and of benefit to everyone surprisingly. A lot like Norway which is not what May was going for at all.  It all depends on how they want to play the game.. You can expect the whole thing (either Cons loss outright or a Hung Parliament) will send the £ into a terrible state because of uncertain nature of what will come.

 

Just love those speculative markets.

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I see another election, BBC America are showing 300, not sure if there is a connection.

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1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

There's a couple of really good UK constitutional lawyer blogs I follow that have been weighing the various potentials for a while. Little busy at the moment but I'll leave the links when I find them. It was a pretty long read though. The way I understood it, they could simply agree to let it elapse and continue as normal or they could continue on with Brexit but negotiate in a way they may prove less harsh and of benefit to everyone surprisingly. A lot like Norway which is not what May was going for at all.  It all depends on how they want to play the game.. You can expect the whole thing (either Cons loss outright or a Hung Parliament) will send the £ into a terrible state because of uncertain nature of what will come.

 

I was reading a little more and an article I saw said that the Labour Party said it would continue with Brexit according to their manifesto.  Of course as we know, campaign promises are about as good as the paper they are written on.

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

I was reading a little more and an article I saw said that the Labour Party said it would continue with Brexit according to their manifesto.  Of course as we know, campaign promises are about as good as the paper they are written on.

Well, in either case, they need to honor the will of the people, their will was Brexit.

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This is a General Election, last year was Brexit.