After 7 months still NOA1 received

[Bendite 26]

1 hour ago, Adriana&Marko said:

I'm a November filer to I got a rfe back in March so I heard back from them 4 months later had to send them 2 papers for my rfe took me two months so my case has been on hold a while and now it's been 2 weeks still nothing back yet from my rfe being sent in case has been active for 198 days😞

Me too! Got an RFE over two months ago and still waiting for a response 298 days 😩

Edited June 9, 2017 by Bendite
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[Adriana&Marko 58]

26 minutes ago, Bendite said:

Me too! Got an RFE over two months ago and still waiting for a response 298 days 😩

Oh my god really what's the hold up!!🙄 Did u have to send a lot back in to them for your rfe !??

[Adriana&Marko 58]

14 minutes ago, Adriana&Marko said:

Oh my god really what's the hold up!!🙄 Did u have to send a lot back in to them for your rfe !??

And I thought 60 days was when they respond did you call them to see what's taking them so long did you mines been 13 days but for you it's so long 😞

[Bendite 26]

1 minute ago, Adriana&Marko said:

And I thought 60 days was when they respond did you call them to see what's taking them so long did you mines been 13 days but for you it's so long 😞

I called my attorney today he sounded upset with immigration! Saying they are so behind right now! We could call but I doubt they would tell us anything! So frustrated....

[Adriana&Marko 58]

4 minutes ago, Bendite said:

I called my attorney today he sounded upset with immigration! Saying they are so behind right now! We could call but I doubt they would tell us anything! So frustrated....

Oh god really you have a immigration lawyer ? I have one to so what did your lawyer suggest to you 

[Bendite 26]

10 minutes ago, Adriana&Marko said:

Oh god really you have a immigration lawyer ? I have one to so what did your lawyer suggest to you 

Wait!!!😩Nothing we can do at this  moment 

[janet3 1,170]

7 hours ago, Springrain22 said:

Do you understand how many petitions they get every day? Do you understand that they only work on money they have from fees?

Ummm......it is my understanding.....that while yes, they are funded by fees.....they are also a department under Homeland Security.....and according to the budget for homeland security  (as published online for the public).....they (USCIS) receive a substantial amount of funding from Homeland Security  (asdo other programs such as the CIA, Secret Service and FEMA)

 

 

Month 4 1/2 waiting on NOA2 on a k1 

Edited June 9, 2017 by janet3

[Adriana&Marko 58]

1 minute ago, Bendite said:

Wait!!!😩Nothing we can do at this  moment 

Omg how much can we all wait it's so crazy😩😩let me no if the hear from them 

[geowrian 22,337]

1 minute ago, janet3 said:

Ummm......it is my understanding.....that while yes, they are funded by fees.....they are also a department under Homeland Security.....and according to the budget for homeland security  (as published online for the public).....they (USCIS) receive a substantial amount of funding from Homeland Security  (asdo other programs such as the CIA, Secret Service and FEMA)

Nope. USCIS gets a whopping $0 from DHS.

[janet3 1,170]

5 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Nope. USCIS gets a whopping $0 from DHS.

Thank you for the corrections. I apologize for any inaccuracies. 

[geowrian 22,337]

3 minutes ago, janet3 said:

Thank you for the corrections. I apologize for any inaccuracies. 

Actually, I was just looking up some details and it does get a *little* funding from DHS. But it's not for the petition-based visa processing, ROC, naturalization, etc. It's for certain other services they provide. It's mostly for e-Verify and a couple smaller programs. The petition processing is entirely self-funded.

 

Learned something new myself...thanks!

[TriloByte 1,818]

8 hours ago, Springrain22 said:

Do you understand how many petitions they get every day? Do you understand that they only work on money they have from fees?

Yes to all of the questions.

 

We run scrapes on the online status box to see how many petitions they get every day and how quickly and what order things are being processed. 

 

For example, the scrape for Yesterday: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6lSbA8OZ_elEnSKHpRF5_-D1yH_u2U5jsWySRo6-vI/edit?usp=sharing

 

I'm not sure how money has any relationship with just doing what's sensible and working on cases in the order they were received.

 

We've paid them good money to look at our cases, they should do it in a timely and orderly fashion. How they operate is unacceptable IMO.

Edited June 9, 2017 by TriloByte

[geowrian 22,337]

10 minutes ago, TriloByte said:

Yes to all of the questions. We run scrapes on the online status box to see how many petitions they get every day and how quickly and what order things are being processed. 

 

For example, the scrape for Yesterday: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6lSbA8OZ_elEnSKHpRF5_-D1yH_u2U5jsWySRo6-vI/edit?usp=sharing

 

I'm not sure how money has any relationship with just doing what's sensible and working on cases in the order they were received.

 

We've paid them good money to look at our cases, they should do it in a timely and orderly fashion. How they operate is unacceptable IMO.

I hear you and I understand the frustrations. That said, it's not quite so simple to just go in a strictly first come manner.

 

I'll refer back to a previous post I made:

What they're doing makes sense from a process flow. Think of it like a supermarket with 10 registers open and 100 customers...

• The lines very likely won't be exactly equal to start with.
• Some cashiers will go faster than others.
• Some people will have more items than others.
• Some people will have items that won't scan, or require somebody to look them up by hand.
• Some people won't have sufficient funds, or pay slowly.

Assumption: Once you pick a line, you cannot move to a new line.

 

In this scenario, 9 times out of 10 there will be a line moving faster than your own. The 5 people in line #1 could get checked out while your line sits there on person #1 still. And sometimes you will be in the slowest line...behind the person paying with pennies.

 

Is it the cashier's fault for some people taking wayyyy longer than others? The store's? To make it more fair, should they have cashiers wait until all front-line customers are checked out before moving to the next? Should they put all the low-item count/exact change/etc. people at the front (or use a dedicated line)? Unfortunately, there's not really a solution that works best for everybody, and all the 'fair" solutions are just inefficient. This line/queue management process conundrum comes up in all sorts of process flows, and there simply isn't a generic solution...just ways to prioritize certain aspects (fairness, fastest average time, optimal customer experience, etc.).

 

Edit: And just to make it clear...I am not trying to justify a 7 month wait when most others are taking 4 months or less. There are issues with the process flow and I do think they can do more to address them.

Edited June 9, 2017 by geowrian

[janet3 1,170]

6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Actually, I was just looking up some details and it does get a *little* funding from DHS. But it's not for the petition-based visa processing, ROC, naturalization, etc. It's for certain other services they provide. It's mostly for e-Verify and a couple smaller programs. The petition processing is entirely self-funded.

 

Learned something new myself...thanks!

I worked for the state of Arkansas for years.....they moved money around like crazy.....the federal government is probably different....it's interesting to follow it....

So you are completely correct (and I agree completely)...the money they receive may be for brochures and classes....it's only 4 million...I doubt it encompasses visas....

Thank you for pointing it out

[TriloByte 1,818]

8 minutes ago, geowrian said:

I hear you and I understand the frustrations. That said, it's not quite so simple to just go in a strictly first come manner.

 

I'll refer back to a previous post I made:

What they're doing makes sense from a process flow. Think of it like a supermarket with 10 registers open and 100 customers...

• The lines very likely won't be exactly equal to start with.
• Some cashiers will go faster than others.
• Some people will have more items than others.
• Some people will have items that won't scan, or require somebody to look them up by hand.
• Some people won't have sufficient funds, or pay slowly.

Assumption: Once you pick a line, you cannot move to a new line.

 

In this scenario, 9 times out of 10 there will be a line moving faster than your own. The 5 people in line #1 could get checked out while your line sits there on person #1 still.

 

Is it the cashier's fault for some people taking wayyyy longer than others? The store's? To make it more fair, should they have cashiers wait until all front-line customers are checked out before moving to the next? Should they put all the low-item count/exact change/etc. people at the front (or use a dedicated line)? Unfortunately, there's not really a solution that works best for everybody, and all the 'fair" solutions are just inefficient. This line/queue management process conundrum comes up in all sorts of process flows, and there simply isn't a generic solution...just ways to prioritize certain aspects (fairness, fastest average time, optimal customer experience, etc.).

That's based on how we think things operate over at the pyramid complex in California. What I am suggesting is that they throw that system of doing things in the garbage and adopt and better strategy. This is the 21st century of awesome technology after all.

 

I have a gold standard approach that I think they should follow. It goes something like this:

 

I think the widely accepted assumption on this forum is that there are a bunch of workers who are given a "stack" of cases to work on. The old "stack". Yes.

 

What they COULD do, theoretically, is have one main center that processes incoming petitions. The receipt numbers would be entered (ordered by date received) into a master database that's shared across all service centers. All documents would be scanned electronically into a database and linked to each receipt number in the master database. Only valid petitions make it into the database. The people processing the incoming would immediately reject any petitions that had incorrect fees, etc. Nobody has a "stack" on their desk. Then, when any worker at any service center finished the petition they were working on, they would query this master database for the next petition in line. This way there never would be a situation where someone who got a receipt at the end of the month gets movement before someone at the start. There would still be situations where an RFE delays a person and causes someone who got a receipt at the end of the month to get APPROVED before someone at the start, but that's acceptable! haha. 

 

With this type of approach, there could be very precise statistics on where the processing is currently at and what the wait time should be.