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Hello: I was wondering if anyone had experience petitioning for a second spouse.  I am a USC by birth.  I married my first spouse at 23 in 2009, petitioned for them and they were granted conditional residency 6/2010.  The interview was quick and easy and we mainly presented pictures and cards we'd given each other for special occasions.   We began dating 2/2005 when we were both 18 but had known each other since about fifth grade.  We we went to the same elementary, middle, and high school.  We grew up in the same neighborhood.  We applied jointly for removal of conditions on 5/2012, informally separated 7/1/2012 and ROC was approved without interview 11/2012.  The marriage was very rocky and honestly looking back we dragged it longer than we should have.  Mainly because by the time we divorced we had known each other at least 15 years and had known each other more than half of our lives.  We eloped because my family found out my dad was having an affair with a family friend that year and things at home were unbearable.  So being young and naive we got married since we were always together anyway.   We divorced 2/2013 I filed pro se and it was all completed in about a month.  

 I met my current spouse while I was separated and began dating 1/2013 long distance.  We married 8/2013 and I moved across the country to where my spouse lived. We had a daughter  6/2014 and so far everything has been smooth sailing.  I waited so long to file because my spouse has an approved petition through a sibling that has yet to become current.  My spouse will need to go through consular processing.  Given my timeline of events, and prior petition will I have to prove the bonafides of BOTH marriages?  The problem with that is that I've been divorced for five years now, I moved across the country so photos/cards are all gone and I don't even bank in the same place anymore.  My ex and I lived with his parents so there's not a lease either and he was the primary account holder in our joint bank accounts/credit cards.  I recently started attending therapy due to issues including that previous marriage so I would have those notes but not much else.  Please share your experiences if you have petitioned for more than one spouse.  

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Very, very similar situation to ours, except we are dealing with adjustment of status (not sure how much it matters, but thought i would share anyway.).

My husband was married, and i am his 2nd spouse. Last time he was married 12 years ago. Well, you can see my "beautiful" timeline in my signature. There is no indication or even a slight sign that whatever is going on with our case is somehow related to his previous marriage, but that's the situation we are at: the case has been pending for over 2 years, absolutely unreasonably. We had 2 interviews, 2 RFE, 1 notice of intend to deny (full of mistakes). And i believe we have a lot of proof of our relationship, we have been together for 6 years, married for 3. Still no GC.

However, I read a bunch of other stories where people petitioned 2nd and even 3rd time and everything went smoothly. The lawyers we talked to also said that the previous marriage (petition) is not relevant.... but that's what we got.
We do not have any other possible red flags (age difference, etc., - all good).

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Citizenship:

09/15/2020 - Filed online. Estimated completion given - July 2021 (10 months).

January 2021 - biometric reuse letter

April 2021 - interview scheduled

24/05/2021 - Interview (approved)

 

Passport:

July 23 - applied, expedited service

August 11 - received the passport

Aug. 16 (approximately) - received passport card

August 20 - received citizenship certificate back

 

Story of my almost 3 years long pending AOS - click below for details

Spoiler

2015

  • March 10 2015 - USCIS received i-130/i-485
  • March 30 2015 - got a RFE saying that my husband cannot be my sponsor because of his income, which is not true, but we didn't know what to do so we hired a lawyer.
  • August 10 2015 - interview (went great, by the way). Were told to wait 120 days.
  • December 10 2015, April 10 2016, May 10 2016 - sent SR, responses: "your case is pending"

2016

  • May 25 2016 - Went to Info Pass, the case is taken to the supervisor, were told we will get something in 30 days (of course, after 30 days we got nothing....).
  • June 27 2016 - Went to Info Pass again, they told us to wait for 2 more weeks and if we still get nothing send a service request letter by mail. Did it on the same day.
  • June 27 2016 - After Infopass, went to senator Durbin office in Chicago.
  • July 8 2016 - Went to Mike Quigley office.
  • July 8 2016 - Received useless response from Durbin. All they know is that the case is pending and it's in Chicago, can't do anything else.
  • July 12 2016: Infopass, spoke to the supervisor, promises promises.... more wait.
  • July 17 2016: Filed Ombudsman.
  • July 26 2016: Another info pass, same story. We talked to 3 supervisors already! I don't get it!
  • July 29 2016: Sent another useless SR just because.
  • Aug 9 2016: Talked to the officer we had interview with! She was supposed to mail us RFE a year ago but she forgot (!!!) ! They admitted it. Gave us RFE.
  • October 11 2016: Response to RFE is received by uscis (the RFE was ridiculous. Basically all same papers we ALREADY GAVE HER at the interview: bank statements, lease, etc).
  • October 20 2016: Infopass, useless, did not have time to wait for the supervisor.
  • November 9 2016: Infopass, talked to the supervisor, he said there are no problems with our case and he will make sure the officer will make a decision within a few days. Gave us his email and phone number, told us to contact him directly instead of going to info pass.
  • November 15 2016: emailed the supervisor, since a few days have passed and still no decision. No response.
  • November 17 2016: called the supervisor, no answer.
  • November 17 2016: sent Service Request about i-130 (Lol, like that will help..)
  • November 19 2016: sent a letter to the director of Chicago Field Office.
  • November 22 2016: sent Service Request about i-485 (Lol[2])
  • November 23 2016: talked to the supervisor again to learn that..........my medical and fingerprints have expired and i need to wait for a notice to do it all again.
  • November 25 2016: The response from the Field Office Director Martha Medina-Maltes: your case is pending and every effort is being made blah blah blah
  • December 5 2016: Received a response to i-485 SR that my case is "pending supervisor review"... absolutely random since the supervisor said i'll need redo my medical and fingerprints again.
  • December 19 2016: Went to USCIS, the officer came out and told me we need to come back for a 2nd interview!!! I'm shocked because our marriage is 100% real and i can't believe they have doubts about it! But i'm glad that it's at least something.
  • December 27: 2nd interview (Strokes). Reason: i-130 petition. We did fine but the officer said we will receive a NOID! Our lawyer said it must be something else, not our answers... but what?!

2017

  • Jan 23 - infopass, asked if anything was mailed regarding i-130. Were told that nothing was.
  • Jan 27 - sent a service request regarding I-130.
  • March 1 2017 - went to uscis (no info pass), our officer's supervisor finally gave us the noid full of nitpicking and lies, that shows that they do not pay attention to anything. 
  • March 10 2017 - 2 years AOS anniversary...wow. 
  • March 31 - The response to the noid is received by uscis!
  • June 1st - went to the office, the supervisor promised we will get the decision in 4-6 weeks.
  • July 19 - 7 weeks passed, went back to uscis. The supervisor said he will give the case to the officer tomorrow, we asked when we will get the decision, he said he doesn't know. 
  • September 6: My husband talked to the supervisor again, he said he gave the case to the other officer, and the case is huge so the officer has a lot to do, and we will get a decision in 2 weeks. 
  • September 25: Went back since no decision was received (as expected). The supervisor said the same thing: we will get a decision in 2 weeks
  • September 29: USCIS asked for medical! Eureka! First time in 2 and a half years they sent something by themselves! :wacko: i-130 still not approved.
  • October 2: Notice that i-130 is approved (notice date September 26, still no online update). Also went to get medical done (should be ready by the end of the week)
  • October 3:  biometrics
  • October 10: medical delivered to uscis! The waiting games begins again :wacko:
  • December 11: 2 months after medical was delivered talked to the supervisor again, he said the decision will be made BY tomorrow and we will find out from the website on Wednesday. 
  • December 14: Called uscis, tier 2 officer told me that the case is approved.
  • December 18: Received Approval notice (Dated December 12)

 

Long story short:
After the initial interview we received:

1) a RFE asking for the same papers again,

2) then were asked to come to the 2nd interview that went fine of course, 

3) then a NOID that was full of mistakes.

All that was given to us in person, only when we made our way straight to our officer. And still waiting. Lots of fun (not).

4) 6 months after receiving our response to the noid i-130 is approved. 2 years 6 months and 16 days of waiting for i-130. Supposed to take 5 months. No words.

5) After 2 years 9 months and 2 days (or 1008 days) of waiting i-485 is approved.

 

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, vilmj said:

Hello: I was wondering if anyone had experience petitioning for a second spouse.  I am a USC by birth.  I married my first spouse at 23 in 2009, petitioned for them and they were granted conditional residency 6/2010.  The interview was quick and easy and we mainly presented pictures and cards we'd given each other for special occasions.   We began dating 2/2005 when we were both 18 but had known each other since about fifth grade.  We we went to the same elementary, middle, and high school.  We grew up in the same neighborhood.  We applied jointly for removal of conditions on 5/2012, informally separated 7/1/2012 and ROC was approved without interview 11/2012.  The marriage was very rocky and honestly looking back we dragged it longer than we should have.  Mainly because by the time we divorced we had known each other at least 15 years and had known each other more than half of our lives.  We eloped because my family found out my dad was having an affair with a family friend that year and things at home were unbearable.  So being young and naive we got married since we were always together anyway.   We divorced 2/2013 I filed pro se and it was all completed in about a month.  

 I met my current spouse while I was separated and began dating 1/2013 long distance.  We married 8/2013 and I moved across the country to where my spouse lived. We had a daughter  6/2014 and so far everything has been smooth sailing.  I waited so long to file because my spouse has an approved petition through a sibling that has yet to become current.  My spouse will need to go through consular processing.  Given my timeline of events, and prior petition will I have to prove the bonafides of BOTH marriages?  The problem with that is that I've been divorced for five years now, I moved across the country so photos/cards are all gone and I don't even bank in the same place anymore.  My ex and I lived with his parents so there's not a lease either and he was the primary account holder in our joint bank accounts/credit cards.  I recently started attending therapy due to issues including that previous marriage so I would have those notes but not much else.  Please share your experiences if you have petitioned for more than one spouse.  

You really need nothing to prove your previous marriage was bonafide.

 

file based in second one, additional scrutiny will withstand a true marriage.  Good wishes.

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1 hour ago, Transborderwife said:

Your first marriage is irrelevant as it's been longer than 5 years.  However, that doesn't protect you from additional scrutiny.

I thought the five year limitation only applied if I was the one who obtained status from a USC?  Like if I were an LPR applying for my spouse after divorcing USC.   I might be wrong but that's what I thought. 

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47 minutes ago, banana_princess said:

Very, very similar situation to ours, except we are dealing with adjustment of status (not sure how much it matters, but thought i would share anyway.).

My husband was married, and i am his 2nd spouse. Last time he was married 12 years ago. Well, you can see my "beautiful" timeline in my signature. There is no indication or even a slight sign that whatever is going on with our case is somehow related to his previous marriage, but that's the situation we are at: the case has been pending for over 2 years, absolutely unreasonably. We had 2 interviews, 2 RFE, 1 notice of intend to deny (full of mistakes). And i believe we have a lot of proof of our relationship, we have been together for 6 years, married for 3. Still no GC.

However, I read a bunch of other stories where people petitioned 2nd and even 3rd time and everything went smoothly. The lawyers we talked to also said that the previous marriage (petition) is not relevant.... but that's what we got.
We do not have any other possible red flags (age difference, etc., - all good).

Oh no! It just seems like maybe someone dropped the ball somewhere and now you have all this mess going on.  So sorry! i hope everything works out in your favor.  If you don't mind me asking, what is your country of origin? 

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40 minutes ago, Auds said:

You really need nothing to prove your previous marriage was bonafide.

 

file based in second one, additional scrutiny will withstand a true marriage.  Good wishes.

Thank you so much for your well wishes.  I truly hope everything works out well. 

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8 minutes ago, vilmj said:

Oh no! It just seems like maybe someone dropped the ball somewhere and now you have all this mess going on.  So sorry! i hope everything works out in your favor.  If you don't mind me asking, what is your country of origin? 

Thanks for your support, i am from Russia : )

Citizenship:

09/15/2020 - Filed online. Estimated completion given - July 2021 (10 months).

January 2021 - biometric reuse letter

April 2021 - interview scheduled

24/05/2021 - Interview (approved)

 

Passport:

July 23 - applied, expedited service

August 11 - received the passport

Aug. 16 (approximately) - received passport card

August 20 - received citizenship certificate back

 

Story of my almost 3 years long pending AOS - click below for details

Spoiler

2015

  • March 10 2015 - USCIS received i-130/i-485
  • March 30 2015 - got a RFE saying that my husband cannot be my sponsor because of his income, which is not true, but we didn't know what to do so we hired a lawyer.
  • August 10 2015 - interview (went great, by the way). Were told to wait 120 days.
  • December 10 2015, April 10 2016, May 10 2016 - sent SR, responses: "your case is pending"

2016

  • May 25 2016 - Went to Info Pass, the case is taken to the supervisor, were told we will get something in 30 days (of course, after 30 days we got nothing....).
  • June 27 2016 - Went to Info Pass again, they told us to wait for 2 more weeks and if we still get nothing send a service request letter by mail. Did it on the same day.
  • June 27 2016 - After Infopass, went to senator Durbin office in Chicago.
  • July 8 2016 - Went to Mike Quigley office.
  • July 8 2016 - Received useless response from Durbin. All they know is that the case is pending and it's in Chicago, can't do anything else.
  • July 12 2016: Infopass, spoke to the supervisor, promises promises.... more wait.
  • July 17 2016: Filed Ombudsman.
  • July 26 2016: Another info pass, same story. We talked to 3 supervisors already! I don't get it!
  • July 29 2016: Sent another useless SR just because.
  • Aug 9 2016: Talked to the officer we had interview with! She was supposed to mail us RFE a year ago but she forgot (!!!) ! They admitted it. Gave us RFE.
  • October 11 2016: Response to RFE is received by uscis (the RFE was ridiculous. Basically all same papers we ALREADY GAVE HER at the interview: bank statements, lease, etc).
  • October 20 2016: Infopass, useless, did not have time to wait for the supervisor.
  • November 9 2016: Infopass, talked to the supervisor, he said there are no problems with our case and he will make sure the officer will make a decision within a few days. Gave us his email and phone number, told us to contact him directly instead of going to info pass.
  • November 15 2016: emailed the supervisor, since a few days have passed and still no decision. No response.
  • November 17 2016: called the supervisor, no answer.
  • November 17 2016: sent Service Request about i-130 (Lol, like that will help..)
  • November 19 2016: sent a letter to the director of Chicago Field Office.
  • November 22 2016: sent Service Request about i-485 (Lol[2])
  • November 23 2016: talked to the supervisor again to learn that..........my medical and fingerprints have expired and i need to wait for a notice to do it all again.
  • November 25 2016: The response from the Field Office Director Martha Medina-Maltes: your case is pending and every effort is being made blah blah blah
  • December 5 2016: Received a response to i-485 SR that my case is "pending supervisor review"... absolutely random since the supervisor said i'll need redo my medical and fingerprints again.
  • December 19 2016: Went to USCIS, the officer came out and told me we need to come back for a 2nd interview!!! I'm shocked because our marriage is 100% real and i can't believe they have doubts about it! But i'm glad that it's at least something.
  • December 27: 2nd interview (Strokes). Reason: i-130 petition. We did fine but the officer said we will receive a NOID! Our lawyer said it must be something else, not our answers... but what?!

2017

  • Jan 23 - infopass, asked if anything was mailed regarding i-130. Were told that nothing was.
  • Jan 27 - sent a service request regarding I-130.
  • March 1 2017 - went to uscis (no info pass), our officer's supervisor finally gave us the noid full of nitpicking and lies, that shows that they do not pay attention to anything. 
  • March 10 2017 - 2 years AOS anniversary...wow. 
  • March 31 - The response to the noid is received by uscis!
  • June 1st - went to the office, the supervisor promised we will get the decision in 4-6 weeks.
  • July 19 - 7 weeks passed, went back to uscis. The supervisor said he will give the case to the officer tomorrow, we asked when we will get the decision, he said he doesn't know. 
  • September 6: My husband talked to the supervisor again, he said he gave the case to the other officer, and the case is huge so the officer has a lot to do, and we will get a decision in 2 weeks. 
  • September 25: Went back since no decision was received (as expected). The supervisor said the same thing: we will get a decision in 2 weeks
  • September 29: USCIS asked for medical! Eureka! First time in 2 and a half years they sent something by themselves! :wacko: i-130 still not approved.
  • October 2: Notice that i-130 is approved (notice date September 26, still no online update). Also went to get medical done (should be ready by the end of the week)
  • October 3:  biometrics
  • October 10: medical delivered to uscis! The waiting games begins again :wacko:
  • December 11: 2 months after medical was delivered talked to the supervisor again, he said the decision will be made BY tomorrow and we will find out from the website on Wednesday. 
  • December 14: Called uscis, tier 2 officer told me that the case is approved.
  • December 18: Received Approval notice (Dated December 12)

 

Long story short:
After the initial interview we received:

1) a RFE asking for the same papers again,

2) then were asked to come to the 2nd interview that went fine of course, 

3) then a NOID that was full of mistakes.

All that was given to us in person, only when we made our way straight to our officer. And still waiting. Lots of fun (not).

4) 6 months after receiving our response to the noid i-130 is approved. 2 years 6 months and 16 days of waiting for i-130. Supposed to take 5 months. No words.

5) After 2 years 9 months and 2 days (or 1008 days) of waiting i-485 is approved.

 

 

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, vilmj said:

I thought the five year limitation only applied if I was the one who obtained status from a USC?  Like if I were an LPR applying for my spouse after divorcing USC.   I might be wrong but that's what I thought. 

You're correct I thought that your initial status was from a USC my mistake 

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